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Title: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: rich_t on January 31, 2009, 08:35:31 PM
This is starting to make the rounds via e-mail and various internet sites.

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Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is extremely frustrated with orders that the White House is contemplating. According to sources at the Pentagon, including all branches of the armed forces, the Obama Administration may break with a centuries-old tradition. A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the President, and no longer to the Constitution.

One such site (http://waronyou.com/topics/military-to-pledge-oath-to-obama-not-constitution/)

Personally, I think it is bogus.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 31, 2009, 08:37:56 PM
calling BS

We don't need moonbat shit like this from wannabe conservatives.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: Schadenfreude on January 31, 2009, 08:40:20 PM
Naw.... I am sure that oath is reserved for Obama's state police - to be announced.  :-)
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: rich_t on January 31, 2009, 08:42:05 PM
calling BS

We don't need moonbat shit like this from wannabe conservatives.

I agree.  0bama will step on his dick enough times for real.  We don't need such nonsense being spread around.

Leave that crap to the DUmmies.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: ReardenSteel on January 31, 2009, 08:45:23 PM
I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and call shenanigans.

This smells of goofy e-mail tom-foolery. No way, no how this is true.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: Chris_ on January 31, 2009, 08:45:35 PM
calling BS

We don't need moonbat shit like this from wannabe conservatives.

Agreed. The fuhrer wouldn't expose his inner desire in RL.

Don't add chaff when there is plenty of wheat.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: Eupher on January 31, 2009, 09:21:23 PM
No doubt it's bogus.

His Exaltedness has a very high opinion of himself, but he's not walking on water yet. He wouldn't even play that card in a second term, should we be punished again.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: docstew on January 31, 2009, 09:53:29 PM
I'm just curious about this, if it were true.  How many Soldiers would rather go to jail than pledge a loyalty oath to 0bama?  I would be one.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: rich_t on January 31, 2009, 09:56:11 PM
I'm just curious about this, if it were true.  How many Soldiers would rather go to jail than pledge a loyalty oath to 0bama?  I would be one.

Current soldiers would be exempt.  It would only apply to re-enlistments and new recruits (if it wasn't bogus, which it is).

Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: miskie on January 31, 2009, 10:35:57 PM
Im sure this is a play on the moonbatty Pledge to Obama commercial put out by Hollyweird
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: Chris_ on January 31, 2009, 11:47:50 PM
No doubt it's bogus.

His Exaltedness has a very high opinion of himself, but he's not walking on water yet. He wouldn't even play that card in a second term, should we be punished again.

And what about AFTER the moonbats in congress repeal the 22nd amendment, and elect him el Presidente for life?
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 01, 2009, 05:00:48 AM
Take a look at this:

http://newsblaze.com/story/20090127224509nnnn.nb/topstory.html

Not sure if this is real, but, it's in line with the Cult of Personality of the Obamessiah.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: Eupher on February 01, 2009, 06:56:43 AM
And what about AFTER the moonbats in congress repeal the 22nd amendment, and elect him el Presidente for life?

The 22nd Amendment is safe. No way in hell that's gonna be repealed.

The glitz is starting to wear off and His Holiness is starting to look like the tool he is. Even I'm-a-nutjob is correctly calling it. Despite the MSM's never-ending adoration of their Magic Negro, you can't continue to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Turd in a punchbowl.

Something like that.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: docstew on February 01, 2009, 06:59:34 AM
Current soldiers would be exempt.  It would only apply to re-enlistments and new recruits (if it wasn't bogus, which it is).



If that was the case, it would be a moot point, as most of the senior leadership are already on indefinite term contracts.  What would be next, a purge of the senior leadership to promote those who did take the oath to 0bama into positions of authority?
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: Eupher on February 01, 2009, 07:06:46 AM
If that was the case, it would be a moot point, as most of the senior leadership are already on indefinite term contracts.  What would be next, a purge of the senior leadership to promote those who did take the oath to 0bama into positions of authority?

Well, there is the historical precedent of Ernst Röhm and the Night of the Long Knives.....
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 01, 2009, 07:39:47 AM
Probably B.S........but if it isn't. Rush's popularity will double, triple, etc.. Then we should swamp our congress critters with telephone calls, letters, e-mails and .....that old liberal standby....protests in the street.

...and foremost, e-mails, etc. of support for our military that will probably by-n-large refuse to take it.

I'd love to see him pull this and the Democrats support it. It'd mean that Washington would be swept clean of Democrats.....except maybe Pelosi and Franks.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on February 01, 2009, 08:20:08 AM
I don't see how it could be true as congress--with sole authority over the UCMJ--has to write the oath. The dems are too scared to co-sponsor a renewed AWB.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: docstew on February 01, 2009, 09:36:42 AM
Well, there is the historical precedent of Ernst Röhm and the Night of the Long Knives.....

or the Stalin purges...
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: Baruch Menachem on February 01, 2009, 10:13:07 AM
0bama's wet dream, but it will take a while.

It took Hitler two years to get there.

And Hitler seemed to have a reasonably competent team behind him.   Schacht, Frick, Speer...  Who has 0bama got?  Hillary, Geitner, Rahm...  I think we are reasonably safe for now.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: jinxmchue on February 01, 2009, 10:43:33 AM
This is starting to make the rounds via e-mail and various internet sites.

One such site (http://waronyou.com/topics/military-to-pledge-oath-to-obama-not-constitution/)

Personally, I think it is bogus.

I hope it is, otherwise I might have to reconsider my belief that O isn't the Antichrist.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 01, 2009, 10:46:47 AM
Nah, I call B.S., but I'm sure Obama will leave that oath to him to his "national civilian security force".
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on February 01, 2009, 10:48:38 AM
I hope it is, otherwise I might have to reconsider my belief that O isn't the Antichrist.
It isn't even a sourced report so we're left to believe Gates is revealing deep-seated secrets to some obscure and highly-paranoid blogger.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 01, 2009, 10:05:34 PM
It's got to be a left-handed reference to the "Fuehrer Oath" that the Wehrmacht had to all take after Hitler became Chancellor.  I can't imagine there is really any truth to this, it would create an absolute uproar in the DOD.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on February 01, 2009, 10:10:25 PM
It's got to be a left-handed reference to the "Fuehrer Oath" that the Wehrmacht had to all take after Hitler became Chancellor.  I can't imagine there is really any truth to this, it would create an absolute uproar in the DOD.
Check out the forum for that website. It for the people too paranoid to be allowed to post at prisonplanet.com.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: dutch508 on February 02, 2009, 12:13:53 PM
As the DAT related, this is a hoax. Not even a clever one.

The German Military was forced to swear an oath to Adolf Hitler rather than to the German State.

Diensteid der Soldaten der Wehrmacht 
Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.

Service oath for soldiers of the armed forces
I swear by God this sacred oath that I shall render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Führer of the German Reich and people, supreme commander of the armed forces, and that I shall at all times be ready, as a brave soldier, to give my life for this oath.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: TheSarge on February 02, 2009, 12:22:53 PM
I'm just curious about this, if it were true.  How many Soldiers would rather go to jail than pledge a loyalty oath to 0bama?  I would be one.

I guess they'd have to fit me for prison stripes as well.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: dutch508 on February 02, 2009, 12:25:34 PM
It would be a complete violation of the military values- sworn to protect the country from enemies, foreign or domestic. If this were true, any soldier would be honor bound not to take the oath, but to remove the illegal government that issued the decree.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: Airwolf on February 03, 2009, 05:05:53 PM
It's BS. But in case its not and its somekind of pledge to the Big Zero then I thnk alot of the military would rather take jail over serving a dictator.
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: docstew on February 03, 2009, 07:22:39 PM
It's BS. But in case its not and its somekind of pledge to the Big Zero then I thnk alot of the military would rather take jail over serving a dictator.

We wouldn't just take jail, we'd take over the jail... Dutch can be the CO, TRG can be Top. lol
Title: Re: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 03, 2009, 07:46:25 PM
Check out the forum for that website. It for the people too paranoid to be allowed to post at prisonplanet.com.
What is amazing to me is I haven't heard anything about this in the Lamestream Media yet.  They seem to love taking rumors off of internet sites and reporting them as factual, at least they did that to Sarah Palin.