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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 30, 2009, 12:28:00 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4943899
Oh my.
G_j (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:46 PM
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http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/30/nelson-stimulus-bil... /
Nelson ‘Undecided’ On Recovery Plan: ‘I Don’t Even Know How Many Democrats Will Vote For It As It Stands’
On Wednesday, when the House voted 244 - 188 to approve the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, 11 Democrats joined with the entire Republican caucus in voting against the bill. Now, as the stimulus debate moves to the Senate, it appears that some Democratic senators are challenging the Obama administration’s stimulus plans as well.
The Washington Post reported this morning that Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) “remains undecided about the bill“:
Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), who remains undecided about the bill, said he opposes money going to research projects at the National Institutes of Health and about $13 billion for Pell grants that help students pay for college. Nelson says the measures are worthy but do not belong in legislation designed to stimulate the economy.
Despite what Nelson says, both increased NIH funding and money for Pell grants are actually a wise use of stimulus dollars.
According to Fox News, Nelson convened a meeting in his Senate office today with Senate Republicans and some Democrats who are seeking “common ground on how they can improve the $819 billion economic stimulus bill.†Nelson’s meeting included Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME), Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN), Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) and Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA).
In an interview with Fox News after the meeting, Nelson said he didn’t know how many Democrats, let alone Republicans, would vote for the stimulus plan “as it stands todayâ€:
HEMMER: No Republicans voted for this measure in the House. Do you know of any Republicans on the Senate side that will vote yes as it stands today?
NELSON: I don’t know, I don’t even know how many Democrats will vote for it as it stands today because a lot of my colleagues are not decided. They’re undecided on the bill as it is right now. Fortunately, we don’t have to take the vote on it right now. We have an opportunity to make some improvements.
Oh dear.
blueclown (519 posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:47 PM
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1. Just give us a Republican in that seat.
At least we know where they stand.
We can make it up elsewhere.
liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:49 PM
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2. He is sounding like a republican
Doesn't want money spend on education or health care.
depakid (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:59 PM
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5. Agreed- he and his ilk do much more harm than good
The party is better off without these sorts of turncoats. Bad locker room chemistry, so to speak.
Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:50 PM
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3. He went on Faux to announce this also
I saw it this morning and boy did they appreciate him coming on!
rucky (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:54 PM
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4. Senator Zelson
son of Zell
spanone (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 01:01 PM
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6. this is some scary shit....washington's way of saying....'we're in charge here'
change my ass
Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 01:01 PM
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7. He's right now on MSNBC with Andrea Mitchell
Why is he all over the TV stations?
G_j (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 01:04 PM
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8. because he talks the Republican line
spanone (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 01:05 PM
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9. media loves nothing more than a turncoat democrat...ala joey the boy
Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 01:08 PM
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10. He's not too bright & will cut his own throat and now Sen. Kerry is on
I hope Kerry comments.
TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 01:08 PM
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11. Gee, thanks, Benny--starting to think about re-election again, huh?
Gotta keep the Nebraska GOPers on your side.
Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 01:18 PM
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12. Sen. Kerry makes Nelson sound like a simpleton
He gives intelligent and cognitive answers
Nelson just gives talking points.
Thanks Sen. Kerry for coming on after Nelson.
FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 01:19 PM
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13. Ben Nelson is a ****ing loser. Olympia Snowe actually has a better voting record than he does.
You know, I hate to break it to the primitives on Skins's island, but the senior U.S. Senator from Nebraska's constituency is.....Nebraska Democrats.
I don't think he gives a **** what the primitives think.
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LOTS of projection in that bonfire frank.
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"The party is better off without these sorts of turncoats. Bad locker room chemistry, so to speak."
Is there anything that these people like or agree on? Rhetorical question.
I haven't the slightest idea what the poster meant by that locker-room-chemistry remark, unless it means that there should be no attempts at bi-partisanship.
If that's it, then that fits with what His Divisiveness has been doing for almost two years and certainly since he became PEBO and now POTUSBO.
On a cheerier note, perhaps Porkulus, as he exists now out of the House of Rerpresentatives, will get not just get reshaped, lose a few tens or hundreds of billions of fat, but maybe slaughtered before being unleashed on us?
One can always hope.
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I'm betting that none of them live in Nebraska. Otherwise they would know why Ben Nelson is the canidate he is after years of that flaming lib Bob Kerrey.
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I'm betting that none of them live in Nebraska. Otherwise they would know why Ben Nelson is the canidate he is after years of that flaming lib Bob Kerrey.
Yep. Democrat or not, he's at least reasonably responsible.
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:49 PM
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2. He is sounding like a republican
Doesn't want money spend on education or health care.
I thought the bill was suppose to stimulate the frozen credit market that has seized the larger economy.
I thought eduction and healthcare bills were for education and healthcare.
But what do I know, I'm just a bunny.
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Is there anything that these people like or agree on?
Hate. Misery.