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Title: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Chris on January 24, 2009, 05:35:06 PM
Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn (http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/groups-urge-senate-to-reject-lynn-2009-01-23.html)

The Obama administration has waived its ethics rules to allow William Lynn to serve as the deputy secretary of Defense.

Lynn was a registered lobbyist until early 2008 and his nomination raised some eyebrows even before the executive order on ethics that Obama issued Wednesday, because it contradicted the new president’s pledge not to let lobbyists in his administration.

According to Raytheon’s lobbying disclosure forms, Lynn was part of a team that lobbied on a wide range of defense-related issues, including force protection, electronics, intelligence and missile defense.

It would be difficult for Lynn, if he is confirmed, to avoid involvement in issues regarding his former company and the programs in which it is participating because Raytheon is one of the largest defense contractors, with contracts in many major weapons programs.

Lynn was the Pentagon comptroller during the Clinton administration. He also worked for Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.).
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Chris on January 24, 2009, 05:35:50 PM
Obama spends two years on the stump telling us how lobbyists are horrible, rotten, evil people.  Now, they're apparently okay.
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 05:44:27 PM
Obama spends two years on the stump telling us how lobbyists are horrible, rotten, evil people.  Now, they're apparently okay.

george bush's lobbyists were satan.  his lobbyists are A-OK. :uhsure: :whatever:
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: RightCoast on January 24, 2009, 05:49:32 PM
Seriously did we expect any differant??
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 05:53:29 PM
Seriously did we expect any differant??

I honestly don't understand the problem with former lobbyists.  they tend to be experts in their fields, which is the whole reason they are hired by the private sector to lobby the government in the first place.  there are laws in place to prevent former lobbyists from misusing their authority once they are members of the executive branch;  if they break the law, prosecute them.

Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Chris_ on January 24, 2009, 06:13:17 PM
Seriously did we expect any differant??

From the same guy who overlooked the tax laws to appoint his Treasury chief? Bah.
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Redstatecka on January 24, 2009, 06:35:55 PM
Seriously did we expect any differant??

No.

How could we? Everybody knew/knows this guy's a world-class liar, who said and did everything to grab the White House.

BTW: Just what are the Obama administration's "ethics rules"? That could be a very short book with few, if any words in it.

Just like that book "The Highlights of Qualifiying Experiences of Barack Obama for the Presidency;" or "Health Records, College Transcripts and Other Useful Background Information, Including His Real Birth Certificate, About Barack Hussein Obama."

Maybe those "ethics rules" are written on an erasable slate that's cleaned daily?
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 06:41:42 PM
No.

How could we? Everybody knew/knows this guy's a world-class liar, who said and did everything to grab the White House.

BTW: Just what are the Obama administration's "ethics rules"? That could be a very short book with few, if any words in it.

Just like that book "The Highlights of Qualifiying Experiences of Barack Obama for the Presidency;" or "Health Records, College Transcripts and Other Useful Background Information, Including His Real Birth Certificate, About Barack Hussein Obama."

Maybe those "ethics rules" are written on an erasable slate that's cleaned daily?

I suspect they will look a lot like clinton's "most ethical administration in history" and nancy pelosi's "most ethical congress in history", both of which were shot through with felons, criminals, and deviants.
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Chris_ on January 24, 2009, 07:52:14 PM
Obama spends two years on the stump telling us how lobbyists are horrible, rotten, evil people.  Now, they're apparently okay.
Don't forget..."hair plug" Joe said there was no such thing as clean coal.  Now there are ads on tv with video of Oooooooobamalamdingdong singing the praises of clean coal.   :whatever:
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: RightCoast on January 24, 2009, 07:53:30 PM
Quote
BTW: Just what are the Obama administration's "ethics rules"? That could be a very short book with few, if any words in it.


On the contrary it is likely a huge tome with multiple volumes, the better for libturds to point to it and say "see look at all our rules! We're open and honest." Of course it also means that nobody will read the effing thing.

I truly believe that libs see ethics as dynamic, living guidelines that can be adjusted or ignored to fit their needs.

Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Chris_ on January 24, 2009, 07:55:05 PM


On the contrary it is likely a huge tome with multiple volumes, the better for libturds to point to it and say "see look at all our rules! We're open and honest." Of course it also means that nobody will read the effing thing.

I truly believe that libs see ethics as dynamic, living guidelines that can be adjusted or ignored to fit their needs.


...just like the Bible or COTUS?
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2009, 08:00:51 PM
I honestly don't understand the problem with former lobbyists.  they tend to be experts in their fields, which is the whole reason they are hired by the private sector to lobby the government in the first place.  there are laws in place to prevent former lobbyists from misusing their authority once they are members of the executive branch;  if they break the law, prosecute them.



the last gut i knew who didn't know how to use caps was my older daughter's high school boyfriend.  he's over 30 now.  i'm sure he has mastered the art. 

 :tongue:
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 08:04:17 PM
the last gut i knew who didn't know how to use caps was my older daughter's high school boyfriend.  he's over 30 now.  i'm sure he has mastered the art. 

 :tongue:

it's an extra keystroke, and i am a busy guy. :-)  you are lucky i even bother with punctuation. :uhsure:
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2009, 08:07:50 PM
it's an extra keystroke, and i am a busy guy. :-)  you are lucky i even bother with punctuation. :uhsure:

Well, I understand.  I was twelve once.  I understand about the one hand free while the other one is busy thing.
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 08:08:34 PM
Well, I understand.  I was twelve once.  I understand about the one hand free while the other one is busy thing.

I have been twelve three times.  and some change. :-)
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2009, 08:13:10 PM
I have been twelve three times.  and some change. :-)

I think there are ads on TV that can help you.  For the rest of you Google "micropenis". 

Sadly, my friends, WE can only pleasure a woman with candy and flowers.
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 08:19:23 PM
I think there are ads on TV that can help you.  For the rest of you Google "micropenis". 

Sadly, my friends, WE can only pleasure a woman with candy and flowers.

candy is so . .  .  last millennium. :uhsure: :-)
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2009, 08:24:55 PM
candy is so . .  .  last millennium. :uhsure: :-)

So are you.  You will never have sex again.  Tee. Hee.
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 08:30:49 PM
So are you.  You will never have sex again.  Tee. Hee.

"tee hee"  did you honestly just say "tee hee"?  tell me that you did NOT just say "tee hee". :whatever:
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2009, 08:32:38 PM
"tee hee"  did you honestly just say "tee hee"?  tell me that you did NOT just say "tee hee". :whatever:

Get over it, Bozo Boy.  You were the tee heee. 
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 08:34:34 PM
Get over it, Bozo Boy.  You were the tee heee. 

you may want to go fix your dust ruffles, testosteroneman. :-)
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2009, 08:41:47 PM
testosteroneman. :-)

It is nice you identify thoses more manly than you.  All of us guys at CC who have turned you down have done our best to keep your secret.  Thanks for the email of your butt, but it doesn't change our minds.  We still like girls.
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 08:43:58 PM
It is nice you identify thoses more manly than you.  All of us guys at CC who have turned you down have done our best to keep your secret.  Thanks for the email of your butt, but it doesn't change our minds.  We still like girls.

glass houses, mr. grammar. :-)
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2009, 08:47:04 PM
glass houses, mr. grammar. :-)

Sweet reBUTTal. 
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Chris_ on January 24, 2009, 09:17:00 PM
God -- get a room, you two.
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: DixieBelle on January 24, 2009, 09:47:57 PM
^yeah. Isn't there a thread for this? :-) :-)

Tee hee!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 10:25:40 PM
^yeah. Isn't there a thread for this? :-) :-)

Tee hee!!!!!!!

check out undies' use of "tee hee". :whatever:
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: DixieBelle on January 24, 2009, 10:26:44 PM
but I'm dixie :-) :-)
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 24, 2009, 10:42:39 PM
but I'm dixie :-) :-)

undies "tee hee"-ed at me earlier tonight.  I refrained from dragging your obvious femininity into the conversation. :-)
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Redstatecka on January 25, 2009, 07:30:53 PM
On the contrary it is likely a huge tome with multiple volumes, the better for libturds to point to it and say "see look at all our rules! We're open and honest." Of course it also means that nobody will read the effing thing.

I truly believe that libs see ethics as dynamic, living guidelines that can be adjusted or ignored to fit their needs.

What you've just identified is that about-to-be published work "The Democrats', Liberals', Leftists' and Other Moral Relativists', Moral Agnostics' and Situational Ethicists' Guide to Ad Hoc Might-Be/Might-Not-Be Civil and/or Other Behavior."

...just like the Bible or COTUS?

Worse.

At least the Holy Bible and the Constitution have been written and established.

What Obama and his tribe will write hasn't been written or will be written completely on the fly.
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Tess on January 25, 2009, 09:33:25 PM
And another except to his rule.

Maybe I'm just in a mood.  I'm just so disgusted right now and I don't have even the slightest bit of faith in republicans in congress.  They will roll over and be willing to take whatever O wants to shove up their ass all the while telling us that they didn't realize when the shit hits the fan.

Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Chris_ on January 25, 2009, 09:36:10 PM
And another except to his rule.

Maybe I'm just in a mood.  I'm just so disgusted right now and I don't have even the slightest bit of faith in republicans in congress.  They will roll over and be willing to take whatever O wants to shove up their ass all the while telling us that they didn't realize when the shit hits the fan.


Yeah, but at least it'll be rainbow sh*t.



 :thatsright:
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Tess on January 25, 2009, 09:38:45 PM
Yeah, but at least it'll be rainbow sh*t.



 :thatsright:

I don't even want the damn pony anymore. 
Title: Re: Obama waives lobbying rules for Lynn
Post by: Strider on January 26, 2009, 12:15:43 AM
And another except to his rule.

Maybe I'm just in a mood.  I'm just so disgusted right now and I don't have even the slightest bit of faith in republicans in congress.  They will roll over and be willing to take whatever O wants to shove up their ass all the while telling us that they didn't realize when the shit hits the fan.


Its not just a mood...
it is the cold slap of reality,there are no real leaders anymore and the people want the likes of Al Franken to be thier new voice.
Time to piss on the fire and call in the dogs!!!