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Title: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: TheSarge on January 22, 2009, 07:31:55 AM
(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7896/inaugqp2.jpg)



I doubt it would surprise anyone here that the media would go to their best lengths to over-estimate the number of people at Obama's inauguration. But just how far? Try a million people.

ASU journalism professor Stephen Doig took it to the satellite image to get an accurate count of the crowd. His tally, after even accounting for those still in route to the event: 800,000. Now let's look at how the working Obamalists portrayed that to the public.

Baltimore Sun: "Inaugural crowd is estimated at close to 2 million"

Boston Globe: " The National Park Service says it will rely on a media report that says 1.8 million people attended President Obama's inauguration."

MSNBC: "Oh, and some guy named Barack Obama. Along with millions of regular folk, celebrities swarmed to DC to celebrate the Inauguration." (from the same page: "Could Inauguration Crowd Reach 4 Million?")

LA Times: "Crowds surged in previously unseen numbers today for the presidential inauguration of Barack Obama, making it seem increasingly likely that the gathering would reach the record-setting mark of 2 million."

Here's where it gets good.

Washington Post: "the official estimate released by the District yesterday is 1.8 million, a figure that would make the gathering the largest ever on the Mall."

Backstory on that "official estimate released by the District" that the Washington Post is writing about.

AP: "Park service spokesman David Barna said the agency did not conduct its own count. Instead, it will use a Washington Post account that said 1.8 million people gathered on the U.S. Capitol grounds, National Mall and parade route, he said."

And that is especially interesting because if you follow the jump on the Washington Post story you'll find this nugget of info: "The Washington Post's analysis of the image concluded that about 1 million people were on the Mall." And the first page of the article mentions the parade route "was supposed to accommodate 300,000 people at its height". Fuzzy math, a journalist staple. 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mithridate-ombud/2009/01/22/obamas-million-ghost-march
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Eupher on January 22, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
Any information coming out of D.C., no matter how inconsequential, cannot be trusted.

Especially now. And for the next four years.
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: franksolich on January 22, 2009, 09:12:21 AM
For the inauguration of Lyndon Johnson in January 1965, according to the Omaha World-Herald, attendance was 1.2 million.

And that was when America had a lot less people too, hence fewer primitives.
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Texacon on January 22, 2009, 10:11:54 AM
I've been waiting for that picture to hit CC.

I was in DC in 1997 for the Promise Keepers Stand in the Gap rally.  The liberal media tore the crowd up.  Some of the estimates were as low as 500,000.  A couple even stretched it to 750,000 .....

Look at the picture of 'O' 's crowd then look at this one from the PK rally ... tell me who had the crowd.

(http://throughtheveil.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/stand-in-the-gap.jpg)

I don't know.  Maybe I'm biased but I think PK had more folks.  You be the judge.

KC
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Texacon on January 22, 2009, 10:13:19 AM
By the way, you can't tell it from that picture but that crowd goes all the way under the trees and over to the buildings on one side.  We got to the mall 5 hours before it began and the closest we could get to the main stage was 1/2 mile.

KC
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Texacon on January 22, 2009, 10:25:06 AM
Here is another good shot;

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PADxYCnMzr8/RwlF8CFwZgI/AAAAAAAAVsE/CLf8U0Ff22c/DSC_2171.JPG)

KC
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Redstatecka on January 22, 2009, 10:50:23 AM
Texacon,

I was also at the PK rally. What a day. Remember when the cry "Jesus Christ" rebounded off all the buildings around there?

I'm not going to second-guess anyone but the advocacy/advesary media, who claim, wrongly, that there were two million people at Obama's inauguration. Not possible, even the 1.8 million the WaPo estimates.

But, as we know, no one will ever revised the numbers downward now. The advocacy/adversary media will not change. Have they ever admitted they were wrong? Have they ever revised anything, based on any outside criticism?

And now, being the good shills/shillettes of Obama and his coaltion of Democrats, liberals and leftists, they cannot.

After all, Obama must always be presented as being better than, doing more than, accomplishing more than, drawing larger crowds than, etc., former President Bush or any other human being to have ever held office as head of state, anywhere, in the past or forseeable future.

Get used to it.
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Texacon on January 22, 2009, 11:36:17 AM
Texacon,

I was also at the PK rally. What a day. Remember when the cry "Jesus Christ" rebounded off all the buildings around there?


I remember that as well as some other things reverberating around that city that day.  The mall was packed, shoulder to shoulder from the Capitol to the Washington Monument from building to building.  If the PK rally only had 500k - 750k (I personally think it was more but it is hard to estimate) then the 'O' inauguration couldn't have had more than 250k. 

History won't remember it that way but as long as you can pull up the pictures of the crowd at the inauguration and the PK rally and put them side by side .... you will always be able to prove that Jesus Christ drew a bigger crowd than 'The One'.  No matter what number you attach to it.

When I saw the blow up of the satellite picture of 'O' 's crowd I couldn't believe how small it actually was.  Interesting how the media uses camera angles isn't it?

KC

PS; When PK left .... there wasn't a butt load of trash to remove either!
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Texacon on January 22, 2009, 11:44:07 AM
Here is a better view of the inauguration to compare to the PK rally;

(http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/geoeye-wash-large.jpg)

The people are far too spread out.

KC
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Wretched Excess on January 22, 2009, 12:06:10 PM
Here is a better view of the inauguration to compare to the PK rally;

(http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/geoeye-wash-large.jpg)

The people are far too spread out.

KC

great shot, and enlightening point of view.  on television, it looked like it was solid people all the way to the washington monument, when in reality, there were only crowds around the jumbo trons.
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Texacon on January 22, 2009, 12:09:18 PM
great shot, and enlightening point of view.  on television, it looked like it was solid people all the way to the washington monument, when in reality, there were only crowds around the jumbo trons.

For more perspective .... the PK rally was only men.  How many families were represented that day?

I have wondered if God didn't have a hand in making the PK rally as successful as it was just for this purpose.  To have a true comparison of who IS THE ONE!

KC
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: dutch508 on January 22, 2009, 12:18:00 PM
great shot, and enlightening point of view.  on television, it looked like it was solid people all the way to the washington monument, when in reality, there were only crowds around the jumbo trons.

They look like ****ing ants.

come to think of it, they are ****ing ants.
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: docstew on January 22, 2009, 05:17:05 PM
They look like ****ing ants.

come to think of it, they are ****ing ants.

at least in the opinion of Teh Rookie...
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Chris_ on January 22, 2009, 05:22:14 PM
I had some folk upbraid me. 

I think it was around 800K. Look at the Capitol seating that was initially reported as 350K but later downgraded to closer to 250.  A visual scan tells you that this was well short of 1 million.

And we already have confirmation that watching the new fuhrer lie through his teeth was < Reagan's inauguration (and there are a lot more of us now than then) and less than American Idol later that evening.

Bottom line:  the new fuhrer isn't as popular as the MSM's hype would purport.
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Bluesuiter-Retired on January 23, 2009, 11:52:48 AM
Isn't this same group who tallied up Farakon's "million man march".

An independent group did an survey of the aerial photos and estimated that million man march only had about 650,000 people in it.

And we're supposed to take their word that the inauguration had over 2 million.
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: TheSarge on January 23, 2009, 11:55:29 AM
Isn't this same group who tallied up Farakon's "million man march".

An independent group did an survey of the aerial photos and estimated that million man march only had about 650,000 people in it.

And we're supposed to take their word that the inauguration had over 2 million.


Well of course we are.  You make it seem like the media would intentionally lie to us. /sarc
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: mamacags on January 24, 2009, 02:48:43 PM
Texacon I stole your pk picture to prove a point somewhere else. Thanks!
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Chris_ on January 24, 2009, 03:06:52 PM
(http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/geoeye-wash-large.jpg)

I say we take off, and nuke the site from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure.
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: RobJohnson on January 25, 2009, 02:41:24 AM
Alot of the news was saying between 1.5 and 3 million. That is a huge spread of difference.

Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Texacon on January 25, 2009, 07:30:13 AM
Texacon I stole your pk picture to prove a point somewhere else. Thanks!

Hope it helped.  Let us know what the other side had to say about that.

KC
Title: Re: Obama's Million Ghost March
Post by: Vagabond on January 26, 2009, 09:32:00 AM
The MSM is about as reliable as Pravda.  When the facts don't add up, it is the facts that are wrong.  I tremble for my country.