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http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/16/obama.white.supremacists/index.html
White supremacists watched in lead up to Obama administrationStory Highlights
Racists angry, frustrated over prospect of black president, experts say
No organized effort to oppose Obama known to exist, law enforcers say
Racist talk is protected; harmful acts are not, FBI official says
Demographic, historical factors stoke bigotry, racist watchdog group official says
By Mark Preston
CNN Political Editor
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Hate crimes experts and law enforcement officials are closely watching white supremacists across the country as Barack Obama prepares next week to be sworn in as the first black president of the United States.
U.S. Capitol Police check observation positions in advance of Tuesday's presidential inauguration.
So far, there is no known organized effort to express opposition to Obama's rise to the presidency other than a call by the National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan for its members to wear black armbands as well as fly the U.S. flag upside down on Inauguration Day and Obama's first full day in office.
As Tuesday approaches, when Obama stands outside the Capitol to take the oath of office, experts expect anger about the new president to spike. But they don't expect it to go away.
"The level of vitriol, I expect, will go up a bit more around inauguration time," said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino.
There "is concern" about white supremacist groups during the inauguration, said Joe Persichini, the assistant FBI director who is helping to oversee security during the inauguration. What might the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. have said? »
The inauguration of the nation's first minority president increases any potential threat, "particularly stemming from individuals on the extremist fringe of the white supremacist movement," said a recent intelligence assessment by the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI.
But law enforcement has the appropriate resources to respond if needed, Persichini said.
"We have seen a lot of chatter," Persichini said. "We have seen a lot of discussions. We have seen some information via the Internet. But those are discussions. We look at the vulnerabilities and whether or not the groups are taking action.
"You have freedom of speech," he added. "Anyone in this nation can have a discussion about their beliefs, but we are concerned about whether or not they take that freedom of speech and exercise some act that is against the law."
Anger, violence and interest in racist ideology did increase in the hours and days after Obama was elected president in November, hate groups experts said.
Three New York men were indicted on charges of conspiracy to interfere with voting rights -- accused of targeting and attacking African-Americans in a brutal crime spree soon after Obama was declared the winner on November 4.
And interest in racist ideology was so high right after the election that computer servers for two White supremacist Web sites crashed, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups.
But the violence and interest soon subsided. Leaders within the white supremacist movement are now seeking to capitalize on Obama's presidency by using his election to help grow their organizations.
"President-elect Obama is going to be the spark that arouses the 'white movement,' " reads a posting on the National Socialist Movement Web site. "Obama's win is our win. We should all be happy of this event."
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Dumbass neo-nazis. :thatsright: Why not just wait 4 years for him to fail out of office!?!? Why make a freaking martyr for the left in this country to worship for the next 100 years!??!?!?!??!
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Dumbass neo-nazis. :thatsright: Why not just wait 4 years for him to fail out of office!?!? Why make a freaking martyr for the left in this country to worship for the next 100 years!??!?!?!??!
Oh come on, mama, admit it.
How much of a threat are "white supremacists" in this time and place?
I have no sympathy for them, but it appears to be a rather minuscule microscopic cause with no political, financial, or cultural power at all.
I think the real story here is that CNN is trying to inflate circa 200 ragtag idiots into a "secret army" of millions.
It's kind of like the way little old ladies praying the rosary in front of abortion businesses are magnified into urban terrorists, or how innocuous Sunday-school superintendents are equated with Islamacist fundamentalism terror.
Better that CNN do reporting of the real news, but that's not going to happen.
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I don't doubt that there are those who want O dead. White supremacists are probably toward the top of that list - haha.
But honestly, I have a suspicion that this is media propaganda. Notice how there hasn't really been a story about ws in the main stream media with major headlines? Why today? Are we trying to generate MORE ratings or "something" possibly for tomorrow's festivities?
I don't know, just a thought. I just find it suspect that this non-story is a story. "so far there have been no direct threats" but let's just put the thought out there, shall we?
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Oh come on, mama, admit it.
How much of a threat are "white supremacists" in this time and place?
I have no sympathy for them, but it appears to be a rather minuscule microscopic cause with no political, financial, or cultural power at all.
I think the real story here is that CNN is trying to inflate circa 200 ragtag idiots into a "secret army" of millions.
It's kind of like the way little old ladies praying the rosary in front of abortion businesses are magnified into urban terrorists, or how innocuous Sunday-school superintendents are equated with Islamacist fundamentalism terror.
Better that CNN do reporting of the real news, but that's not going to happen.
Frank, you hit the nail on the head. Just a bunch of media propaganda to stir up racial divide in this country. The media, liberals and blacks have been stirring this pot up for a long time. 100 years from today, they will be throwing out the same crap.
For the sake of this nation, I hope Obama serves out his term and is defeated in 012.
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They are trying to hype this story into a parlay media-invented "situation" where the Democrats have the "mandate" from their constituency to disarm whites because they are "dangerous" to their socialist movement.
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I don't doubt that there are those who want O dead. White supremacists are probably toward the top of that list - haha.
But honestly, I have a suspicion that this is media propaganda. Notice how there hasn't really been a story about ws in the main stream media with major headlines? Why today? Are we trying to generate MORE ratings or "something" possibly for tomorrow's festivities?
I don't know, just a thought. I just find it suspect that this non-story is a story. "so far there have been no direct threats" but let's just put the thought out there, shall we?
:yeahthat: I will admit that I became more of a bigot after this election, not a racist but a bigot. I really seriously detest some groups of people with mental defects that they were not born with.
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Every President who has an assassination that either results in surviving or death has made them into martyrs, no matter how unpopular they were. Kennedy was unpopular even right before he was assassinated. Reagan was shot, but survived and people liked him. Lincoln was shot not too long after the Civil War ended and it was a very polarizing time for America. He is now revered even today.
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Oh come on, mama, admit it.
How much of a threat are "white supremacists" in this time and place?
I have no sympathy for them, but it appears to be a rather minuscule microscopic cause with no political, financial, or cultural power at all.
I think the real story here is that CNN is trying to inflate circa 200 ragtag idiots into a "secret army" of millions.
It's kind of like the way little old ladies praying the rosary in front of abortion businesses are magnified into urban terrorists, or how innocuous Sunday-school superintendents are equated with Islamacist fundamentalism terror.
Better that CNN do reporting of the real news, but that's not going to happen.
Their peak was in the 1990s. I am more concerned about Muslim extremists and environmental terrorists. Tell the truth I am more concerened about environmental terrorists because they are hard to catch and they are largely home grown unlike Muslim terrorists. And yes, both need to be exterminated with extreme prejudice.
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They are trying to hype this story into a parlay media-invented "situation" where the Democrats have the "mandate" from their constituency to disarm whites because they are "dangerous" to their socialist movement.
OH, that may be closer to the truth than one would want to admit. Besides, I don't think that ANY of the white supremacists have the organizational skills or the BALLS to plan such a thing, much less to pull it off. Perhaps when he initially started, but definitely not now.
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OH, that may be closer to the truth than one would want to admit. Besides, I don't think that ANY of the white supremacists have the organizational skills or the BALLS to plan such a thing, much less to pull it off. Perhaps when he initially started, but definitely not now.
Bingo.
The Feds did a bang up job of laying into the worst of these assholes and the remainders are a pale (No pun) imitation of what assholes they used to be.
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I think you're all wrong.........I believe he has more to fear from unhappy leftist.
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I think you're all wrong.........I believe he has more to fear from unhappy leftist.
You might be right. If he does not please the hard left, the queers and the Env. nuts, they will be calling for his impeachment.
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You might be right. If he does not please the hard left, the queers and the Env. nuts, they will be calling for his impeachment.
I was talking about being shot.....even the most racist whites I know don't want him shot.