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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on January 19, 2009, 12:23:25 PM
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-19-09 01:13 PM
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Bush Commutes Sentences for Two Former Border Patrol Agents
On his last full day in office, President Bush commuted the sentences of two former Border Patrol agents convicted of shooting a Mexican drug runner in 2005.
The imprisonment of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean had sparked outcry from critics who said the two were just doing their jobs. They had been sentenced to 11- and 12-year sentences, respectively.
Their prison sentences will now expire on March 20 of this year.
The two were sentenced in connection with the shooting of Osvaldo Aldrete Davila, who was shot in the buttocks while trying to flee along the Texas border. He admitted smuggling several hundred pounds of marijuana on the day he was shot and pleaded guilty last year to drug charges related to two other smuggling attempts.
Bush has been cautious in his use of pardon powers, and particularly careful when it comes to commutations of prison terms. Where a pardon is an official forgiveness of a crime (typically requested at least five years after the completion of a prison term), a commutation is a reduction of sentence.
Before Monday, the outgoing president had granted 171 pardons and nine commutations. By comparison, President Clinton granted 396 pardons and 61 commutations, many on his last day in office. President Reagan granted 393 pardons and 13 commutations.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/19/bush-commute... /
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Sorry for the fux link, they were the first to have it.
Catshrink (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-19-09 01:18 PM
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5. I doubt it...
he's probably just getting started.
What are the odds he'll pardon Stevens? Abramoff? Cunningham?
Give "preemptive" pardons to the Dick, Gonzo, Rumsfeld, Addington, etc?
No, he's not finished yet.
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From another thread over there..
iewhacket (686 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jan-19-09 01:19 PM
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6. cold blooded murder by officers, but the true animal is the one who pardoned them.
RantinRavin Donating Member (239 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jan-19-09 01:23 PM
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7. The guy didn't die and there is no pardon
In fact, the man they shot has been convicted of transporting large sums of drugs into this country.
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sailor65 Donating Member (705 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jan-19-09 01:24 PM
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8. Murder?
You do realize nobody died, right? A drug smuggler got shot in the ass.
link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3697110#3697147)
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sailor65 Donating Member (705 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jan-19-09 01:24 PM
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8. Murder?
You do realize nobody died, right? A drug smuggler got shot in the ass.
Knock me over with a feather, a DUmmie draws a logical conclusion in President Bush's favor (though I'm sure that wasn't the intent). It's that one drew a logical conclusion on any topic that astounds me.
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Ruh Roh sailer speaks sane.
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These people will bitch about a rightful pardon of two people who...IMHO...didn't need to be in jail in the first place...yet will yell loud and long "FREE MUMIA!!!"
:whatever:
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These people will bitch about a rightful pardon of two people who...IMHO...didn't need to be in jail in the first place...yet will yell loud and long "FREE MUMIA!!!"
:whatever:
But you could bet your last dime that if it was a Conservative that was accused of wrong doing there wouldn't be a peep if that person was innocent from the Douchbag Brigade
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A lot of DUmmies made me proud tonight.
I'm sure it'll be short-lived.
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The wives were on Beck tonight. They were very appreciative and excited.
Beck was very direct since he had been following this story for quite some time. He thanked The President on air for doing the right thing. He also noted that there were many on both sides of the isle trying to get these two men released.
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I'm not happy. That should have happened YEARS ago. This was just the end of an injustice. Should have pardoned them.