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Title: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 19, 2009, 05:14:21 AM
This from the Sun across the pond.

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Deadliest weapon so far... the plague

By ALEX WEST

Published: Today (1/19/09)

ANTI-TERROR bosses last night hailed their latest ally in the war on terror — the BLACK DEATH.

At least 40 al-Qaeda fanatics died horribly after being struck down with the disease that devastated Europe in the Middle Ages.

The killer bug, also known as the plague, swept through insurgents training at a forest camp in Algeria, North Africa. It came to light when security forces found a body by a roadside.

The victim was a terrorist in AQLIM (al-Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb), the largest and most powerful al-Qaeda group outside the Middle East.

It trains Muslim fighters to kill British and US troops.
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The next paragraph tells of the fears that al-Qaeda has about the plague's spread among the various terror training camps.  The problem, as I see it, is that a plague-infected terrorist (or several) could easily go on a suicide mission among unknowing victims in the US or Britian, and there'd be a lot of dead victims before BHO's gang would know about it, much less actually do anything about it.

The rest of the article is at:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2146286.ece

(Yeah, I know it's the Sun, but Drudge had it, so I brought it over here.)



Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: mamacags on January 19, 2009, 06:26:27 AM
Lucky for us the plague is very treatable.  It only has about a 15% mortality rate now.*






*unless you are a dumbass terrorist living in nasty conditions with a bunch of man raping losers in the middle of a desert.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: thundley4 on January 19, 2009, 07:18:41 AM
I just hope that this happened because of natural reasons and unsanitary conditions that they live in, and not because they are trying to use the plague as a weapon against the west.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: bijou on January 19, 2009, 09:20:20 AM
Difficult to know if they were trying to use this as a weapon. However if they were it is quite the worst way to do so it is so low tech and is more or less a suicide technique. 

Here's another report with pics too. http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1121842/Al-Qaeda-hit-Black-Death-fear-medieval-plague-kills-40-terrorists-training-camp.html

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/19/article-0-000C649B00000258-865_468x302.jpg)

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Divine intervention?
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- Kristle Hannah Roe, York., 19/1/2009 11:04
       

And there was Teflon looking for their weapons of mass destruction!
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- Aj, UK, 19/1/2009 11:06
       

Not all bad news then? Quite fitting really, a medieval plague for a medieval minded people.
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- Bill J., Walsall, England, 19/1/2009 11:10
       

Standby for the wooly minded telling us we should help these "poor victims"
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- Nuff Said, Anytown, England, 19/1/2009 11:14
       

Ho Ho Ho...ha ha ha ha.
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- David Smith, Stourbridge, UK, 19/1/2009 11:17
       

Looks like Western Counter terrorism Agencies have tried a new tactic on terrorists not involving sending our boys out. well done, lets roll this across all terrorists camps.
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- Mike, Swinetown, 19/1/2009 11:17
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 19, 2009, 01:06:55 PM
Lucky for us the plague is very treatable.  It only has about a 15% mortality rate now.*






*unless you are a dumbass terrorist living in nasty conditions with a bunch of man raping losers in the middle of a desert.

Did a little research.....there are several different types and ways of spreading the plague. One is airborne and 100% deadly if not treated within the first 24 hours after exposure.

Glad I'm not in Washington this week.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Texacon on January 19, 2009, 02:33:29 PM
Wonder how long a vaccine for the plague is good for?  I was vaccinated while I was in the Army.

KC
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: franksolich on January 19, 2009, 02:40:06 PM
Wonder how long a vaccine for the plague is good for?  I was vaccinated while I was in the Army.

I wasn't aware there existed a vaccine against it.

When I was roaming around the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all (good God, it's been ten years and more now--I just realized that), one of the few times I was barred from going in to see something, even bribes not working, was at a village in southern Russia.

Roadblocks and armed guards all over the place.

I wasn't just turned away; because of my blue-and-gold passport, I was actually put into an automobile and driven away, about twenty miles.

It was explained to me, reluctantly, that it was the plague.

I thought my God, free medical care for all, and this medieval disease.....

One wonders how free medical care for all deals with ancient diseases.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: docstew on January 19, 2009, 02:58:22 PM
One wonders how free medical care for all deals with ancient diseases.

you pretty much saw it... same way as putting out a fire by putting a glass over it, no more oxygen, no more fire: no more people, no more sickness
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Texacon on January 19, 2009, 03:56:15 PM
I wasn't aware there existed a vaccine against it.

When I was roaming around the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all (good God, it's been ten years and more now--I just realized that), one of the few times I was barred from going in to see something, even bribes not working, was at a village in southern Russia.

Roadblocks and armed guards all over the place.

I wasn't just turned away; because of my blue-and-gold passport, I was actually put into an automobile and driven away, about twenty miles.

It was explained to me, reluctantly, that it was the plague.

I thought my God, free medical care for all, and this medieval disease.....

One wonders how free medical care for all deals with ancient diseases.

Well, out of all the shots I received for all kinds of stuff the one that always intrigued me was the one (actually 3) for Bubonic Plague.  Now, it could be that some doc was pulling my leg but he sure didn't seem to be.  We were inoculated for things I had never dreamed existed every 3 months because the 82nd Airborne was able to deploy anywhere in the world within 24 hours soooo .... they kept us up to date on all kinds of weird stuff.  At least, that is what we were told.

KC
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 19, 2009, 04:26:23 PM
PAPER: Plague has swept through al Qaeda terror training camp, killing 40
The Sun
Monday, January 19, 2009
Alex West

ANTI-TERROR bosses last night hailed their latest ally in the war on terror — the BLACK DEATH.

At least 40 al-Qaeda fanatics died horribly after being struck down with the disease that devastated Europe in the Middle Ages.

The killer bug, also known as the plague, swept through insurgents training at a forest camp in Algeria, North Africa. It came to light when security forces found a body by a roadside.

The victim was a terrorist in AQLIM (al-Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb), the largest and most powerful al-Qaeda group outside the Middle East.

Full Article (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2146286.ece)

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Looks like bubonic plague has gotten Al-Qaeda.  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 19, 2009, 04:29:19 PM
Umm . . .Ptarmy, a little bunny already had me post this.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=20873.0
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 19, 2009, 04:33:44 PM
Bubonic plague is curable and there is a vaccine. It rarely spreads person to person, but the victim has to be quarantined because the pneumonic form is highly contagious.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: diesel driver on January 19, 2009, 05:00:03 PM
Couldn't happen to a finer group of people.   :loser:
Perhaps their "god" can save them
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: TheSarge on January 19, 2009, 05:52:56 PM
Merged...for your pleasure.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Airwolf on January 19, 2009, 07:50:07 PM
To bad it didn't get the rest of them.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: TheSarge on January 19, 2009, 07:53:36 PM
To bad it didn't get the rest of them.

QFT
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Rebel on January 19, 2009, 08:07:40 PM
Difficult to know if they were trying to use this as a weapon. However if they were it is quite the worst way to do so it is so low tech and is more or less a suicide technique. 

Here's another report with pics too. http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1121842/Al-Qaeda-hit-Black-Death-fear-medieval-plague-kills-40-terrorists-training-camp.html

Beej, can you explain to me how so many moonbats, Like Livingstone, get elected in England? I read Brit papers all the time. Hell, Drudge links to them all the time. From what one would see on the MSM, you'd think the entire country was f'ed up, but from reading TONS of comments by Brits, on MANY stories, hell, it seems they're just like me. Then again, if you didn't have CC or CU, how would you view the states? Especially given current events?

I guess it's kinda like the analogy of the sqeaky tire getting the grease. Conservatives, being individualistic, don't protest. We're more prone to spend time with our families. Liberals are collectivists. They get their identity from a special interest group. So, that's what the MSM sees.

Everyone following? Have anything to add?
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: TheSarge on January 19, 2009, 08:11:27 PM


Everyone following? Have anything to add?

Spot on Rebel.  What I'm curious to know is...if there are any places in England like CC.

Are there Conservative websites like this one across the pond?

I for one would love to join one if that was the case.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: DixieBelle on January 19, 2009, 08:40:44 PM
^add me to that too.

I get the impression that those who are like minded in the UK are merely shouted down by their more unhinged counterparts on the left. And sadly, they seem to have a stranglehold on the govt. I could not live there.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Rebel on January 19, 2009, 08:45:01 PM
^add me to that too.

I get the impression that those who are like minded in the UK are merely shouted down by their more unhinged counterparts on the left. And sadly, they seem to have a stranglehold on the govt. I could not live there.

We're individualistic. We want to live our lives in privacy. When we, freedom-minded individuals, decide to organize, it doesn't normally work out too well for our opponents. Just ask the Brits.  :evillaugh:

No offense, Beej.  :cheersmate:

I do believe the Brits are very, very close to the flash point.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 19, 2009, 10:45:35 PM
Coming to many cities in the west no doubt. Ever wonder what would happen should a dozen major western cities get hit with the Black Death?

They'll start rounding up christian conservatives and executing them without trials I would suppose.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Airwolf on January 19, 2009, 11:43:11 PM
QFT

?
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Sam Adams on January 20, 2009, 01:59:14 AM
Just a little OT, but the Soviets, in the late 1980s, were supposedly working on a weapon that would use the bubonic plague against the West. The psychological effects would have been as severe as the physiological, they say. I almost wonder if the al-Qaeda people got their hands on that, and it got out of control.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Rebel on January 20, 2009, 07:26:45 AM
?

Normally means "quoted for truth".
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 20, 2009, 08:01:45 AM
Just a little OT, but the Soviets, in the late 1980s, were supposedly working on a weapon that would use the bubonic plague against the West. The psychological effects would have been as severe as the physiological, they say. I almost wonder if the al-Qaeda people got their hands on that, and it got out of control.

Considering the state of Sov . . . I mean, Russian science nowadays (with nuclear secrets almost for sale), it wouldn't surprise me to hear that some Russian bio-warfare guys were trying to make a buck or two.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Texacon on January 20, 2009, 08:19:56 AM

I guess it's kinda like the analogy of the sqeaky tire getting the grease. Conservatives, being individualistic, don't protest. We're more prone to spend time with our families And working at our JOBS.. Liberals are collectivists. They get their identity from a special interest group. So, that's what the MSM sees.

Everyone following? Have anything to add?

Sorry Reb, had to fix that little oversight.

KC
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: bijou on January 20, 2009, 08:20:21 AM
Beej, can you explain to me how so many moonbats, Like Livingstone, get elected in England? I read Brit papers all the time. Hell, Drudge links to them all the time. From what one would see on the MSM, you'd think the entire country was f'ed up, but from reading TONS of comments by Brits, on MANY stories, hell, it seems they're just like me. Then again, if you didn't have CC or CU, how would you view the states? Especially given current events?

I guess it's kinda like the analogy of the sqeaky tire getting the grease. Conservatives, being individualistic, don't protest. We're more prone to spend time with our families. Liberals are collectivists. They get their identity from a special interest group. So, that's what the MSM sees.

Everyone following? Have anything to add?
Ken Livingstone was mostly a local politician, although based in London he had a higher profile than most. He had been the leader of the Greater London Council, which was the local government for the whole of London until it was abolished by Margaret Thatcher. After which he got elected to a seat in Parliament and then got elected as Mayor for London. London is a large city, and like large cities in the US trends away from the right so it was no surprise that Livingstone who had long positioned himself as 'Mr London' won the first couple of elections. Interestingly for the second election he left the Labour party and some of his support was by was of a protest against Labour. Thankfully the city came to its senses and elected the Conservative Boris Johnson as Mayor this time.

The UK political parties are of course more to the left of their natural US counterparts (with the exception of the Blessed Margaret Thatcher). Labour got in in 1997 following the conservative government of 1979-1997. They campaigned with a shiny new young  leader promising change and empty platitudes and because many people were fed up of an admittedly somewhat tired Conservative administration they flocked to vote Labour into parliament in sufficient numbers that the Conservatives took quite some time to recover. Though they have and are currently well ahead in the polls.

As to how I would view the US if I only had the MSM to go by? Possibly not much differently overall. Our newspapers tend to have pretty upfront political leanings and the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail for example can be relied on for a more conservative leaning view so as hard as the BBC tries actual information does come through.  Have we all fallen under the 'Obama spell'? Take a look ....http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=89613
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: miskie on January 20, 2009, 08:34:20 AM
Ive never fully understood Europe's general satisfaction with Obama - without sounding crass - anytime something bad stirs up over there, Its the USA who usually plays the heavy and squashes the problem. A weakened, peacenik United States can not be relied upon to ride in and assist in dealing with any major conflict.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: bijou on January 20, 2009, 08:38:23 AM
Spot on Rebel.  What I'm curious to know is...if there are any places in England like CC.

Are there Conservative websites like this one across the pond?

I for one would love to join one if that was the case.
There are some I'm sure the only conservative one I can think of is http://freebritannia.6.forumer.com/viewforum.php?f=1  
(Gator is a member there!)
Otherwise they tend to be more either topic based or blog style. I did put up a thread a while ago with some British sites, the ones I go to most often are:

http://www.order-order.com/

www.politicalbetting.com

http://www.iaindale.blogspot.com/

http://conservativehome.blogs.com/
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: bijou on January 20, 2009, 08:41:34 AM
^add me to that too.

I get the impression that those who are like minded in the UK are merely shouted down by their more unhinged counterparts on the left. And sadly, they seem to have a stranglehold on the govt. I could not live there.
The left excels at shouting down opposition. They are in charge because sufficient people voted them in. However I can remember all the Tony Blair love at Free Republic and some very snippy remarks made to those who expressed the view that he was a lying charlatan, it's not just the left he fooled.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: bijou on January 20, 2009, 12:41:38 PM
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THE al-Qaeda cell wiped out by Black Death may have infected ITSELF while developing biological weapons, it emerged last night.

The terrorists planned to wreak havoc on Western targets but fell victims to their own weapon, a leading expert on chemical warfare believes.


The Sun revealed yesterday that Black Death, also called the Plague, killed at least 40 fanatics at a terror training camp in Algeria earlier this month.

It was thought they caught the disease through poor living conditions in their forest hideouts.

But Dr Igor Khrupinov, of Georgia University, said: “Al-Qaeda is known to experiment with biological weapons. And this group has direct communication with other cells around the world.
...

Last year it was revealed 100 suspected terrorists tried to become students in Britain, giving them access to labs.

In 2006 a plot to poison London’s water was unmasked.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2150050.ece
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: thundley4 on January 20, 2009, 01:04:13 PM
But, The One(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/kent62526/bigearspq7.gif) is now President, everything will be sunshine, smiles, unicorns and rainbows for all. The members of the Religion of Peace, can forsake trying to convert the other tyrannical religions.   :rotf:
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Airwolf on January 20, 2009, 02:25:57 PM
Normally means "quoted for truth".

Oh ok. For a minute I thought it was something else.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 20, 2009, 02:38:39 PM
OK I been wondering about something every since this thread started, where is Dr. Death. You know, the woman Dr. that worked for Saddam whosane, she was an expert in this field. They caught and imprisoned her early in the war and some how she escaped or got released. She disappeared and hasn't been seen since...... Anybody know if they've found her or is she still running loose?
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Rebel on January 20, 2009, 04:51:49 PM
Oh ok. For a minute I thought it was something else.

What, quit ****ing talking?  :lmao:
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Airwolf on January 20, 2009, 08:50:06 PM
What, quit ****ing talking?  :lmao:

Yeah. Thats it.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Sam Adams on January 21, 2009, 12:29:42 AM
The news I heard today is that the terrorists were, in fact, trying to develop the plague to use as a weapon. It was not just a result of poor living conditions.
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2009, 12:32:40 AM
but how do we know there weren't more, maybe they were in DC for the inaugeral?
Title: Re: Deadliest weapon so far... the plague
Post by: Flame on January 21, 2009, 07:34:26 AM
But, The One(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/kent62526/bigearspq7.gif) is now President, everything will be sunshine, smiles, unicorns and rainbows for all. The members of the Religion of Peace, can forsake trying to convert the other tyrannical religions.   :rotf:

LOVE the smiley!  Hi5!