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Title: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 11, 2009, 04:51:59 AM
Gang, if this wasn't serious, it'd be laughable.

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President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold high ideals

The Associated Press

Friday, January 09, 2009

WASHINGTON — President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold high ideals.

When you go to the link below, you will find that the above is the entire story.

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/news/nation/president-elect-obama-says-his-policy-on-terrorism-strategy-will-be-to-uphold-high-ideals-363622.html

The URL has more characters than the copy of the story!

Tx, djones, dutch, and whoever else I forgot who is on the front lines of this, you're gonna have a rough four years. :o
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 11, 2009, 05:28:46 AM
"....his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold high ideals."

...and the results will fill our low expectations.
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: formerlurker on January 11, 2009, 06:55:21 AM
The AP couldn't write what Obama actually stated, which was to continue with GWB's policies with regard to terrorists.    So they took poetic license and changed it a bit so it appears that Obama has a new plan. 

That is the comedy in all of this. 
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: NHSparky on January 11, 2009, 07:10:17 AM
The media and the left (but I repeat myself) have become parodies of themselves and all which they claim to disdain.  I shudder to think of the people who still think the media is a reliable and unbiased source of information.
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: docstew on January 11, 2009, 07:23:46 AM
"....his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold high ideals."

...and the results will fill still miss our low expectations.


Fixed
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: NHSparky on January 11, 2009, 07:25:41 AM
Actually, maybe the media just boiled down his 40 minutes of bullshit and this is all they could really say for certain he said.

Then again, they probably had to embellish to get THAT.
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 11, 2009, 08:08:54 AM
Gang, if this wasn't serious, it'd be laughable.

When you go to the link below, you will find that the above is the entire story.

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/news/nation/president-elect-obama-says-his-policy-on-terrorism-strategy-will-be-to-uphold-high-ideals-363622.html

The URL has more characters than the copy of the story!

Tx, djones, dutch, and whoever else I forgot who is on the front lines of this, you're gonna have a rough four years. :o

The people who are going to have a rough four years are the US civiilians sitting on high-value targets, not the military.  Clinton's approach was to refrain from putting troops on the ground no matter what after the debacle in Somalia, which was terrible from every standpoint except safeguarding his political bacon and prevention of military casualties (Crushing to morale of course since it signaled a total lack of confidence in the ground forces, though that wasn't his intent).  I foresee Obama taking a similar approach, especially considering the continuity of staff and senior advisors with the Clinton era.  Allies who are in any danger of an actual armed conflict are also in for a pretty rough time.
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: formerlurker on January 11, 2009, 08:17:05 AM
The people who are going to have a rough four years are the US civiilians sitting on high-value targets, not the military.  Clinton's approach was to refrain from putting troops on the ground no matter what after the debacle in Somalia, which was terrible from every standpoint except safeguarding his political bacon and prevention of military casualties (Crushing to morale of course since it signaled a total lack of confidence in the ground forces, though that wasn't his intent).  I foresee Obama taking a similar approach, especially considering the continuity of staff and senior advisors with the Clinton era.  Allies who are in any danger of an actual armed conflict are also in for a pretty rough time.

Dick Morris did a poll prior to Clinton making a decision.   I don't really see Obama doing the same.   In that way he is much smarter than Billy-Jeff.     

I don't know what the man stands for.   He does have better people in the DoD than Clinton did.   

Time will tell. 
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 11, 2009, 08:26:29 AM
Dick Morris did a poll prior to Clinton making a decision.   I don't really seem Obama doing the same.   In that way he is much smarter than Billy-Jeff.     

I don't know what the man stands for.   He does have better people in the DoD than Clinton did.   

Time will tell. 

The Obamessiah won't use Dick Morris to do the poll, but he'll find someone.
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: formerlurker on January 11, 2009, 10:57:40 AM
3-1 Russia rolls over the Ukraine within months of Hussiens coronation.
And we will do...not a thing.

Come on, the EU will protect them.....






 :rotf:
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: Chris on January 11, 2009, 10:59:01 AM
Come on, the EU will protect them.....

 :rotf:

They can always ask the UN to send in their miliary.

Oh wait... that's us.
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: NHSparky on January 11, 2009, 11:09:59 AM
BTW--I just pinged Michelle Malkin and Drudge.  This ought to be interesting.  Anyone pinged LGF or FR yet?
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphol
Post by: TheSarge on January 11, 2009, 11:23:45 AM
The AP couldn't write what Obama actually stated, which was to continue with GWB's policies with regard to terrorists.    So they took poetic license and changed it a bit so it appears that Obama has a new plan. 

That is the comedy in all of this. 

Quite the contrary.  I think what was written is all that The Rookie has in the form of a policy on terrorism.


Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphold hi
Post by: Zeus on January 11, 2009, 11:33:59 AM
President Gulliver's Lawyer (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123154838577269937.html)
A nominee who wants to tie down the executive branch

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Barack Obama's cabinet choices are understandably getting most media attention, but everyone knows policy is also made by the sub-cabinet. So we think more public scrutiny should be drawn to Mr. Obama's choice of Dawn Johnsen to lead one of the executive branch's most important legal offices. Her appointment makes sense for a President Gulliver, but not for a Commander in Chief fighting terrorists.

Ms. Johnsen became famous in the left-wing blogosphere as an especially arch critic of the Bush Administration's war on terror. As an Indiana University law professor, she took to the Web with such lawyerly analysis as "rogue," "lawless," "outrage," and that's the mild stuff. Now she's been nominated to run the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, which interprets the law for the entire executive branch.

One of the OLC's main duties is to defend the Presidency against the inevitable encroachment of the judiciary and Congress on Constitutional authority, executive privilege, war powers, and so forth. Ms. Johnsen knows this, or should, having served as acting OLC head in the Clinton Administration between 1997 and 1998. The office has since become all the more central in a war on terror that has been "strangled by law," to quote Jack Goldsmith, a former Bush OLC chief.

Yet Ms. Johnsen seems to think her job isn't to defend the Presidency but to tie it down with even more legal ropes. She has written that "an essential source of constraint is often underappreciated and underestimated: legal advisors within the executive branch." And in touting her qualifications, the Obama transition cited her recent law review articles "What's a President to Do?: Interpreting the Constitution in the Wake of the Bush Administration's Abuses"; and "Faithfully Executing the Laws: Internal Legal Constraints on Executive Power."

In other words, Mr. Obama has nominated as his main executive branch lawyer someone who believes in diminishing the powers of the executive branch. This is akin to naming a conscientious objector as the head of the armed forces, or hiring your wife's divorce lawyer to handle your side of the settlement too.
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This is far from an academic exercise, because the OLC's advice is traditionally binding for the executive branch except in rare cases where it is overruled by the President or Attorney General. To the extent that such a mentality seeps across the executive branch, it will begin to make our spies and other war fighters risk-averse and overcautious. This is precisely what happened during the Clinton years after Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick's infamous 1995 memo instructed FBI agents and federal prosecutors to go "beyond what the law requires" in limiting their collaboration against al Qaeda.








Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphol
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 11, 2009, 11:57:27 AM
Quite the contrary.  I think what was written is all that The Rookie has in the form of a policy on terrorism.




I'm with you, Tx.

BTW--great job on the President's farewell ceremony! :cheersmate:
Title: Re: President-elect Obama says his policy on terrorism strategy will be to uphol
Post by: TheSarge on January 11, 2009, 08:04:19 PM
I'm with you, Tx.

Its symbolism and feel good nonsense over actual hard policy.  In other words more of the Clinton BS that gave us 9/11.

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BTW--great job on the President's farewell ceremony! :cheersmate:

Thank you sir. :cheersmate: