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Title: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: mamacags on January 08, 2009, 06:50:54 PM
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Incoming administration will abandon Bush's isolation of Islamist group :thatsright: to initiate low-level diplomacy, say transition sourcesSuzanne Goldenberg in US president-elect Barack Obama is widely expected to adopt a more even-handed approach to the Middle East conflict once he assumes office.

The incoming Obama administration is prepared to abandon George Bush's ­doctrine of isolating Hamas by establishing a channel to the Islamist organisation, sources close to the transition team say.

The move to open contacts with Hamas, which could be initiated through the US intelligence services, would represent a definitive break with the Bush ­presidency's ostracising of the group. The state department has designated Hamas a terrorist organisation, and in 2006 ­Congress passed a law banning US financial aid to the group.

The Guardian has spoken to three ­people with knowledge of the discussions in the Obama camp. There is no talk of Obama approving direct diplomatic negotiations with Hamas early on, but he is being urged by advisers to initiate low-level or clandestine approaches, and there is growing recognition in Washington that the policy of ostracising Hamas is counter-productive. A tested course would be to start ­contacts through Hamas and the US intelligence services, similar to the secret process through which the US engaged with the PLO in the 1970s. Israel did not become aware of the contacts until much later.

A draft was agreed last night at the UN, calling for an immediate and unconditional ceasefire between Hamas and Israeli forces in Gaza, the head of the Arab League said. Amr Moussa said Arab countries want the security council to vote on the resolution. It was supported by the US, Israel's closest ally, and Arab countries with ties to Hamas.

Richard Haass, a diplomat under both Bush presidents who was named by a number of news organisations this week as Obama's choice for Middle East envoy, supports low-level contacts with Hamas provided there is a ceasefire in place and a Hamas-Fatah reconciliation emerges.

Another potential contender for a ­foreign policy role in the Obama administration suggested that the president-elect would not be bound by the Bush doctrine of isolating Hamas.

"This is going to be an administration that is committed to negotiating with ­critical parties on critical issues," the source said.

There are a number of options that would avoid a politically toxic scenario for Obama of seeming to give legitimacy to Hamas.(more at link)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/08/barack-obama-gaza-hamas


Seem to give legitimacy to Hamas!??!?!?  SEEM TO!??!?!  Are they really that stupid!?!?
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: Chris on January 08, 2009, 06:51:52 PM
Of course he's prepared to talk to them.  He owes them for all that phone banking and credit card fraud campaign donations.
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: rich_t on January 08, 2009, 06:52:54 PM
He sure isn't wasting much time before jumping in bed with the enemy.

 :bird: :loser:  :bird: :loser: :bird: :loser: :bird: :loser:

Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: Tess Anderson on January 08, 2009, 06:59:34 PM
But are they his enemy?

Okay, Israel, you have less than two weeks to obliterate them - when Barack Hussein Obama is sworn in, that's when Ahmadinejad and Hezbillah will make their move.
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: Duke Nukum on January 08, 2009, 07:14:45 PM

There are a number of options that would avoid a politically toxic scenario for Obama of seeming to give legitimacy to Hamas.(more at link)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/08/barack-obama-gaza-hamas


Seem to give legitimacy to Hamas!??!?!?  SEEM TO!??!?!  Are they really that stupid!?!?

The Guardian is England's socialist newpaper which means, yes, they are that stupid.
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: BannedFromDU on January 08, 2009, 08:42:16 PM
But are they his enemy?

Okay, Israel, you have less than two weeks to obliterate them - when Barack Hussein Obama is sworn in, that's when Ahmadinejad and Hezbillah will make their move.


     If BHO personally sits down with Hamas, Articles of Impeachment should be drawn up immediately.
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: djones520 on January 08, 2009, 09:05:51 PM
Un****ing believable.

So...  if he goes with this shit, would it be against my Oath of Enlistment to demand that my Representative bring for Articles of Impeachment against him?
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: docstew on January 08, 2009, 10:54:14 PM
Un****ing believable.

So...  if he goes with this shit, would it be against my Oath of Enlistment to demand that my Representative bring for Articles of Impeachment against him?

i think would it not only be within your Oath to call for that, it would be against it not to.
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: Sam Adams on January 09, 2009, 05:36:55 AM
I ain't surprised Obama would take this approach. In the primaries, he told us all that he would talk to our enemies without precondition. Maybe we should have believed him. Maybe he thinks talking to Hamas will cause them to be nice. Bill Ayers would make a good special envoy.
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 09, 2009, 08:42:59 AM
What's all the fuss, this approach worked so well for Neville Chamberlain, didn't it?

 :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on January 09, 2009, 09:19:49 AM

     If BHO personally sits down with Hamas, Articles of Impeachment should be drawn up immediately.


Hopefully by that time, the IDF would have obliterated Hamas.
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: Wineslob on January 09, 2009, 12:06:35 PM
Anyone is surprised because............????????
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: MarshallLaw on January 09, 2009, 12:24:59 PM
What's all the fuss, this approach worked so well for Neville Chamberlain, didn't it?

 :fuelfire:


For him, yeah.

The rest of the world, not so much.
Title: Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'
Post by: Chris_ on January 09, 2009, 03:03:58 PM
Anyone is surprised because............????????
Because, they choose not to remember this:
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