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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: MrsSmith on January 07, 2009, 06:19:21 PM
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OurVotesCount-Ohio (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-07-09 07:01 PM
Original message (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4785725)
After Feb. 10th there may be no children's clothing in thrift stores
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My daughter just told me about this. I realize lead and chemicals are a problem but I didn't think there was a big problem with clothing. I've always heard about the toys, jewelry, baby furniture and some items of clothing that had puffy plastic type emblems or zipper pulls with lead content.
In this economy, if thrift stores can't afford to test and do indeed have to throw the clothing out, where are the poor people going to buy kids clothing? I've been googling to try to find more information and have come across some people saying this will affect garage sales as well as ebay, craigslist etc, but I haven't found anymore information about the actual law.
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From the Los Angeles Times
New safety rules for children's clothes have stores in a fit. Some owners say the cost of testing for toxic lead and phthalates will shut their businesses. The law goes into effect Feb. 10.
Barring a reprieve, regulations set to take effect next month could force thousands of clothing retailers and thrift stores to throw away trunkloads of children's clothing.
The law, aimed at keeping lead-filled merchandise away from children, mandates that all products sold for those age 12 and younger -- including clothing -- be tested for lead and phthalates, which are chemicals used to make plastics more pliable. Those that haven't been tested will be considered hazardous, regardless of whether they actually contain lead.
"They'll all have to go to the landfill," said Adele Meyer, executive director of the National Assn. of Resale and Thrift Shops.
more at link:
http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzkids0102la,0,7628483.story?track=rss
Very small bonfire so far...but then again...
The new regulations take effect Feb. 10 under the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act, which was passed by Congress last year
possibly a few of the primitive can still recall WHO is was in control of Congress last year. :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Just remember, OurVotesCount...who did YOU vote for?? :rotf:
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Uh, this isn't funny. This is the most dumbass thing I have seen passed in a while -- Congress passed this? Did I sleep through this?
This is going to royally screw over many small businesses that will have to close their doors. Wow.
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Uh, this isn't funny. This is the most dumbass thing I have seen passed in a while -- Congress passed this? Did I sleep through this?
This is going to royally screw over many small businesses that will have to close their doors. Wow.
Yes, the DEMOCRATIC Congress passed this.
And this is just a hint of what is to come for the next 4 years.
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And this wide ban was passed at the urging of environmentalists, anti-trade, and children advocates would be my guess.
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Yes, the DEMOCRATIC Congress passed this.
Dec 19, 2007: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by roll call vote. The vote was held under a suspension of the rules to cut debate short and pass the bill, needing a two-thirds majority. This usually occurs for non-controversial legislation. The totals were 407 Ayes, 0 Nays, 25 Present/Not Voting.
View Votes (House of Representatives roll no. 1185)
Mar 6, 2008: This bill passed in the Senate by roll call vote. The totals were 79 Ayes, 13 Nays, 8 Present/Not Voting.
View Votes (Senate roll no. 41)
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-4040
Are they all kidding me right now?????
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No they are not kidding. I remember very vividly seeing Nancy Pelosi and her boys standing behind her and she was so giddy that they were doing this for the citizens of the USA. If I recall correctly, they received a lot of criticism for this because they did nothing else.
The problem of thrift stores not carrying children's clothes any longer is not a problem Ms. Pelosi has ever had to contend with, obviously.
They will never ever see that they do way more harm than good.
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Who do the DUmpmonkies blame? Congress? Naaaaaaaaaaa.
Walmart.
PetrusMonsFormicarum (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-07-09 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. I wouldn't be surprised
if it was Walmart (A Celebration of Mediocrity!) behind this whole thing.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard . . . today.
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southernyankeebelle (173 posts) Wed Jan-07-09 07:23 PM
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6. Wouldn't it be nice
If the cloths were made in the USA they would already meet the standards. Bring the jobs home. Give americans a chance.
Frank, you remember that ad on TV back int eh seventies?
"Just look for,
The Union Label!"
yeah, I wonder why clothes are not made int eh US of A anymore?
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I know this is personally gonna screw me. I've bought little Braydon his car seat, swing, a few toys, and tons and tons of clothes over at our neighborhood consignment store for kids, and he's not done growing yet. so, gee.. THANKS DEMOCRAPS! :censored: :bigbird:
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We have a kids consignment store here that my daughter and her friends all buy stuff for their kids. It's an incredibly popular store.
All of these girls can afford to buy their kids clothes in the department stores as they and their husbands all work and have good jobs, but are practical enough to realize that the kids grow quickly and they can find really expensive clothes for their kids there at quite reasonable prices.
The girls then take their stuff back there or pass it on to other friends or family members kids.
It's a win/win situation.
So nice to see that the one thing Congress did accomplish last year was detrimental to so many families in this country. ::)
It just totally amazes me that those of us of a certain age ever managed to reach adulthood let alone reach our 40's, 50's and up.
We survived lead based paint. Our mothers' smoking and drinking alcohol, caffeine, and eating spicy foods while pregnant and nursing. We ate hamburger that wasn't cooked to shoe leather. We ate eggs from the chicken coop and drank milk that came from the cow an hour before.
We played with toys that we made from cardboard boxes, a stick of wood, or a rock.
And yet, we all managed to grow up.
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southernyankeebelle (173 posts) Wed Jan-07-09 07:23 PM
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6. Wouldn't it be nice
If the cloths were made in the USA they would already meet the standards. Bring the jobs home. Give americans a chance.
Well bless your little heart, you're still just as stupid as when you lived up north.
I've seen this discussed on woodworking sites already. Even though products are made in the U.S. out of other products made in the U.S. that are certified as toxin/lead free, they still have to be tested.......some small time U.S. makers of wooden toys and puzzles for children are already shutting down.
Some say that even grandpa in the backyard making a rocking horse for the grandkids is opening himself up for lawsuits.
But on the bright side.....Soon, liberals will not have any excuses left for the dumbass kids they raise.
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Although my daughter is only 4 months pregnant we're going out this weekend to buy up as much thrift store baby clothing as we have room to store.
This is possibly one of the more stupid Democrat ideas of late, but I'm braced for a ton. Will it be illegal to hand down clothing within families next? Oh, please, dear Dems protect me from myself and from my family!!!!
Guess this does the retail business a very good turn, though.
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Ideally, this would be the point where I'd say the best solution would be to just ignore the Godforsaken law, but that just invites all the left wing activists to practice their judicial harrassment techniques on businesses that can ill afford the attorneys fees any more than can afford to test every article that comes into their stocks.
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Frank, you remember that ad on TV back int eh seventies?
"Just look for,
The Union Label!"
yeah, I wonder why clothes are not made int eh US of A anymore?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNTpOnZqeUo[/youtube]
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Who do the DUmpmonkies blame? Congress? Naaaaaaaaaaa.
Walmart.
None of this would have been necessary if Big Dog hadn't traded permanent MFN trading status with China for some campaign cash.
Clinton is the reason for this...but the DUmmies will neither see nor admit it.
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Sponsor: Rep. Bobby Rush [D-IL]
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-4040
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Although my daughter is only 4 months pregnant we're going out this weekend to buy up as much thrift store baby clothing as we have room to store.
This is possibly one of the more stupid Democrat ideas of late, but I'm braced for a ton. Will it be illegal to hand down clothing within families next? Oh, please, dear Dems protect me from myself and from my family!!!!
Guess this does the retail business a very good turn, though.
Excellent idea. I think we'll do the same thing ASAP, just in case. I have no doubt that my grandkids can live through the "extreme hazards" of having a lead pull on their zipper.
(OH, in case I never mentioned...my kid #4 is pregnant, we're looking forward to an Independence Day baby.)
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Excellent idea. I think we'll do the same thing ASAP, just in case. I have no doubt that my grandkids can live through the "extreme hazards" of having a lead pull on their zipper.
(OH, in case I never mentioned...my kid #4 is pregnant, we're looking forward to an Independence Day baby.)
Congrats on expected grandbaby!!! <<<<hugs>>>>
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Congrats on expected grandbaby!!! <<<<hugs>>>>
Thanks! We're excited about another grand...they really are, um, grand. :-)
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Law doesn't require secondhand stores to test for lead (http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=227258§ion=news&freebie_check&CFID=9256063&CFTOKEN=15867506)
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The Consumer Product Safety Commission, responsible for enforcing the law, issued a statement Thursday, clarifying that the law does not require resellers to test children’s products for compliance with new lead limits before they are sold.
While people who sell products in violation of the new limits will still face civil and/or criminal penalties, resellers are only required to use their best judgment and avoid products likely to contain lead, said Patty Davis, commission spokeswoman.
Products might include jewelry and painted wooden or metal toys, according to the statement. The commission will focus on areas of greatest concern, such as imports, large retailers and manufacturers.
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