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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 06, 2009, 04:25:46 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4769679
Oh my.
The large-proboscised primitive:
Cyrano (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 12:17 PM
Original message
What does "White trash" mean?
I've always hated the term "white trash." Although I can't document it, I believe this is a derogative Southern term intended to equate poor, ignorant whites with all black people. And we all know that by the (hopefully, mostly extinct) standards of the "Good Ole' South," black people are "less-than-human."
This is a realization that I've only recently reached. I am stating it as more of a theory than a fact. But if there are Southerners out there, or anyone else who can add to this "white trash" discussion, please let's hear from you.
Whoa-ho.
Like southerners are the only ones who use that term?
There's much primitive squibble-squabbling about the issue.
PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 12:21 PM
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7. Check "teh Googlez"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_trash
White trash is a term referring to lower social class white people with poor prospects and/or low levels of education. It originated as a pejorative. To call someone white trash was to accuse a white person of being economically, educationally and/or culturally bankrupt. Over time, however, the term has become less offensive with use and often is used self-referentially. White trash should be differentiated from the term redneck, as each has a unique historical etymology and context in modern usage.
The term white trash originated in the Baltimore and Washington, DC area during the 1820s post-revolutionary war reconstruction boom. During that period, many poor people migrated to the area, and white and black semi-skilled workers were competing for the same jobs, resources and marriage partners.<1> The term white trash first came into common use in the 1830s as a pejorative used by upper-class United States southerners of all races against poor whites. It was synonymous with the slurs sand hiller and clay eater. White trash were hyperbolically assumed to farm ineptly on poor land, and therefore resort to eating clay in order to survive.
In 1854 Harriet Beecher Stowe wrote the chapter "Poor White Trash" in her book A Key to Uncle Tom's Cabin. Stowe tells the reader that slavery not only produces "degraded, miserable slaves", but also poor whites who are even more degraded and miserable. The plantation system forced those whites to struggle for subsistence. Beyond economic factors, Stowe traces this class to the shortage of schools and churches in their community, and says that both blacks and whites in the area look down on these "poor white trash".<1> Sociologist Max Weber described white trash as " not owning slaves"
Cyrano (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Harriet Beecher Stowe's take on this aside, what I'm reading in the above Wiki definition is that poor, ignorant whites are, for all practical purposes, blacks.
This aside, Wikipedia is a poor, flawed and often inaccurate "factual" reference source. The sooner it's removed from the net, the better.
Fat Che won't appreciate that last sentence.
But anyway, who appointed Oscar Wilde censor of the internet?
Isn't there something about "freedom of speech" involved here?
PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 12:34 PM
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14. Is DU a ****ing thesis, ffs?
There are citations you can follow if you'd like.
nini (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 12:34 PM
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16. You mean there aren't stupid trashy white people outside of the south?
Using that logic - I guess everyone in the yankee states aren't racists, are well off and open minded.
White trash to me are the lazy, ignorant white people who think they are better than others simply because they are white. They are the idiots who vote repub with pride when it's against their best interests.
Cyrano (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #16
30. Yes, there are stupid white people outside of the South.
However, that's not the point of my OP. My theory is that it began as a Southern derogative term used by bigots and meant to equate poor, ignorant white people with all black people.
This isn't an issue of region. It's more of a question about the origins of the term "white trash."
It's a big blazing bonfire, but the primitives never resolve the issue.
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MookieWilson (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 12:40 PM
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23. Being a grandmother at 35, putting all your money into your car and not your house...nt
Wow, I guess blacks and hispanics never do that kinda stuff.
You should visit my neighborhood mookster. :whatever:
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I see this meme is back . . .
They are the idiots who vote repub with pride when it's against their best interests.
Hey, ninny primitive, just who the **** died and made you the arbiter of my "best interests?"
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nini (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 12:34 PM
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16. You mean there aren't stupid trashy white people outside of the south?
Using that logic - I guess everyone in the yankee states aren't racists, are well off and open minded.
White trash to me are the lazy, ignorant white people who think they are better than others simply because they are white. They are the idiots who vote repub with pride when it's against their best interests.
My best interests lie in the freedom to pursue happiness on my own,not to look for goverment to somehow provide it.
That is what you DUmbasses do and look what it has brought you even in victory....misery.
Tell me again who realizes what is in their "best interest" :bird:
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I see this meme is back . . .
Hey, ninny primitive, just who the **** died and made you the arbiter of my "best interests?"
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They are the idiots who vote repub with pride when it's against their best interests.
Yet, the DUmmies call us the selfish ones. WTF, they admit that we are capable of voting against our self-interests. Maybe that is because we believe it's better for everyone, not just ourselves.
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The ninny primitive is an especially nasty and stupid DUmmie who is involved with another dolt, the ZombyWolf primitive. They were so out of control and foolish the libs at NU even wanted them gone when they showed up there.
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The ninny primitive is an especially nasty and stupid DUmmie who is involved with another dolt, the ZombyWolf primitive. They were so out of control and foolish the libs at NU even wanted them gone when they showed up there.
And the large-proboscised primitive, the "Cyrano" primitive, is originally from the New York City area, and then moved down to Florida.
Oscar Wilde constantly trashes the south; one wonders why the Hell he moved down there then.
Don't you southerners get tired of northeasterners who move down there and do nothing but complain?
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Don't you southerners get tired of northeasterners who move down there and do nothing but complain?
You mean the one's who ruined their part of the country, so they move here and complain "That's not how we did it in (the part of the country they just moved from)"? Yeah, it gets old. Depending on the situation, they might be informed that since they liked how it was done so well where they came from, it might be better if they would just return. But more often than not, we just smile back politely and then ignore them.
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You mean the one's who ruined their part of the country, so they move here and complain "That's not how we did it in (the part of the country they just moved from)"? Yeah, it gets old. Depending on the situation, they might be informed that since they liked how it was done so well where they came from, it might be better if they would just return. But more often than not, we just smile back politely and then ignore them.
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a proper southern lady might throw in a "Bless your heart"... we all know what that means
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a proper southern lady might throw in a "Bless your heart"... we all know what that means
"Well, bless your heart"...... :rotf:usually folowed by some form of put down....as in a most extreme case of or to a Yankee DUmmie would be.
"Well, bless your heart. Did your mother drop you on your head....often?"
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When I use the term "white trash" I"m not referinng to person's economic status, but rather, their behavior.
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Watch about any episode of COPS for a clear definition of the term.
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When I use the term "white trash" I"m not referinng to person's economic status, but rather, their behavior.
Same here.