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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 06, 2009, 11:50:56 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4771147
Oh my.
lynyrd_skynyrd (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 03:59 PM
Original message
It's clear that Obama has surrounded himself with conservatives
There is absolutely no disputing the clear fact that Obama's administration is going to be composed by conservatives. Some of them are social conservatives, some of them are corporate conservatives, and some of them are both. A lot of them are DLC shills (Hillary Clinton their leader) as well.
So here is the fundamental question: How will Obama himself govern? I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to surround oneself with opposing views, if in fact Obama himself does oppose their views, and that's the key sticking point here. Will Obama take their opinions and advice into consideration and then ultimately choose to do the right thing? The right thing here being to respectfully disagree with them?
Obama has a chance to really change things for the better. There has never been a greater opportunity. Conservatism in America is hanging on by a thread after the last 8 years of Bush, and Obama can either catch it or let it fall. I certainly hope that his administration is a case of keeping your enemies closer than your friends. Because I want to see
- Universal, government funded, single payer health care
- Gay marriage
- Gun licensing and registration, federally, which would be the only way it'd work
- Election reform - PAPER AND PENCIL
- Government investment in green industry, taxation of polluters
and other liberal policies.
He can do it if he has the courage.
Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 04:07 PM
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7. A lot of the things you want Obama specificlly opposed during the campaign
- Universal, government funded, single payer health care
- Gay marriage
- Gun licensing and registration, federally, which would be the only way it'd work
If you wanted those things, you should have voted for someone else.
cali (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 04:07 PM
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8. only in bizarro world or on counterpunch planet
He's surrounded himself with virtually no conservatives. His picks are centrists and liberals.
Hmmm. I missed out when 0bama named "centrists." Anybody know who they are?
Here's some nice projection from Doug's ex-wife:
sfexpat2000 (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 04:42 PM
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20. Quibble: there is no such thing as a "corporate conservative" or a "social conservative". The former is term for grifters, the latter is a nice label for bigots who want to run your life.
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What is so hard for them to understand about the fact that if he pushed for any of their pet policies they would be guaranteed of losing Congress in 2010.
He will wink and lie from both sides of his mouth but he will not endorse those.
Suck on it DUmmies.
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What is so hard for them to understand about the fact that if he pushed for any of their pet policies they would be guaranteed of losing Congress in 2010.
And he would probably lose the White House in 2012.
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sfexpat2000 (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 04:42 PM
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20. Quibble: there is no such thing as a "corporate conservative" or a "social conservative". The former is term for grifters, the latter is a nice label for bigots who want to run your life.
Like people who hate people of religion telling my community that it can't have faith based initiatives?