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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 06, 2009, 11:43:15 AM
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Oh my.
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 09:06 PM
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I believe .....
..... Roland Burris is the legally appointed junior Senator from Illinois.
..... he should be seated.
The grouchy old primitive, from Illinois:
NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 09:07 PM
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1. No doubt kiddo
liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 09:09 PM
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2. Absolutely.
I do have to agree.
malaise (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 09:12 PM
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3. You are correct
What bothers me most is the precedent being set by Reid et al.
Liberal_Lurker (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 09:12 PM
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4. I kind of wondered what basis in legality Harry's blustering had.
Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 09:13 PM
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5. Yep. He is and he should be seated. Reid should STFU..
The warped primitive, who follows the sparkling husband primitive around like a puppy:
Warpy (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 09:14 PM
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6. I think so, too, but knees are jerking madly
GOPs are grandstanding and Democrats are terrified to be seen as enabling a crooked governor.
Burris is legally appointed at this point. He should be seated. If anything untoward comes out as Blagojevich is prosecuted, then he can be expelled from the Senate.
Illinois will probably join the growing list of states that mandate special elections to fill vacant seats. However, they're not there, yet, and the Burris appointment is so far a legal one in the absence of evidence that a bribe was paid to get it.
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 09:19 PM
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7. And there's no reason to think he paid any sort of bribe at all .......
Of all the names in this sordid tale, his seems to be the most pure and upright.
ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 10:02 PM
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10. He was a good and popular comptroller
I lived in Illinois when he held this office, and was dabbling in politics, helping elect state officials. Never heard a bad word said about the man.
The grouchy old primitive from Illinois, again:
NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 10:12 PM
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12. One of the few Illinois politicians who hasn't spent their retirement in the slammer
He has that going for him.
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 11:32 PM
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14. It is both legal and illegal...
The governor has the right to appoint Burris. But the senate cannot legally swear him in as a senator until his appointment is signed off on by the Illinois Secretary of State. Jesse White (SOS) refuses to sign off, therefore legally, Burris cannot be sworn in as a new member of the Senate.
What I want to know is what type of action can be taken against the Secretary of State for refusing to sign off on a sitting governor's appointment, when the governor hasn't even begun to have his due process through the legal system?
boobooday (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 09:28 PM
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8. I agree. There is no objection that has anything to do with him
ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 10:00 PM
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9. Yep
Rule of law says innocent until proven guilty. Which means Blago can legally appoint a Senator.
Only way Burris could not be seated is if it were proven he bribed Blago for the seat, which is not the case.
zagging (162 posts) Mon Jan-05-09 10:06 PM
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11. I believe
you'd crank your unit on the church steeple if you thought someone would respond.
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-05-09 11:13 PM
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13. I believe .....
.... never mind.
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Democrats treating Burris like three-fifths of a person. I hope the black community is paying attention to how they're treated by the white Dem establishment, but even if they do they're too spineless to act on it.
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Democrats treating Burris like three-fifths of a person. I hope the black community is paying attention to how they're treated by the white Dem establishment, but even if they do they're too spineless to act on it.
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They're totally oblivious. Bet on it.