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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Attero Dominatus on January 04, 2009, 01:24:50 PM
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proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 11:52 AM
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We give Israel a billion a month - $12 BILLION a year
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and require them to spend a portion on American made products.
Guess what we make in America that Israel buys?
WEAPONS
Here is what Israel does with those American made products:
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12 Billion?
:bs:
US Aid to Israel is only 3 billion you idiot. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel-United_States_relations#United_States_military_and_economic_aid)
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Can't believe that you had to spell that out.
:crazy:
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proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 12:27 PM
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27. Oh I believe it
Some will defend Israel regardless of how brutal they are.
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Israel has been giving up their element of surprise to warn civilians to get clear (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24855309-2,00.html). Yeah, real "brutal" alright.
madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 01:12 PM
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43. Hi P2B and I'm with you on this
I'd like to know what the hey they are trying to prove other that having the ability to kill any and everyone they want to. To me life is way to precious to be taking it over some material things or an ideology. It just sucks whats going on there. I know it'll be incoming my way now too but what the heck I can take it.
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And yet you idiots support a collectivist ideology that is responsible for the murder of 100 to 150 million people. :mental:
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 11:55 AM
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2. huh? though I don't support military aid to Israel, why make up numbers?
U.S. aid to Israel is approximately $3 billion a year, not $12 billion.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 12:51 PM
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35. Is your only purpose to stir up shit?
You post a lot but say very little. All you do is attack. It's quite tedious.
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FarceOfNature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 01:55 PM
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56. I would suggest checking up on your rabies vaccination before engaging THAT one
lost cause, IMO.
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 11:56 AM
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3. Know what the main battle tank used by egypt is?
M1A1, they operate F16's and take billions a year from us. Cant have both.
Hamas should have kept their rockets in their pants. Then they would not be getting stomped on right now.
Why make things complex. Hamas will never sign a peace accord. They said so, or the guy who got blown up a few days ago did.
Until everyone is willing to accept peace (oslo, but plo does not tell clinton to go to hell) this will continue.
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proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 11:57 AM
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6. And Hamas should just let Israel have that land!
:sarcasm:
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 11:59 AM
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9. No they should have taken oslo
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 11:59 AM by Pavulon
they should have taken the land when israel left and not shot rockets into israel. Pretty simple. No shooting rockets. Like screaming **** in church, frowned upon.
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proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 12:01 PM
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12. So is stealing land and killing innocent people
but you seem to want to defend that barbaric behavior by Israel.
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #12
17. The land they took from Egypt in 73?
or gave back last year only to have hamas use it to shoot at them? I am confused by your comment.
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proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. They have been stealing land since 1948
I think you know that though. :eyes:
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 11:56 AM
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4. Dammit how do we STOP this bloodthirsty rampage? Obama needs to speak out NOW.
Or authorize Hillary to say something. We can't just sit on our hands and let this massacre continue.
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Yess, Obama will say "love, peace, tolerance," and they will all sing :kumbaya: (do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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You know, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, who's 56, has boasted before about her teacher's pension.
One suspects much of those funds held in her teacher's pension are companies that sell things to Israel, and it could be that those are among the highest performing funds in the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher's retirement account.
If the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher is so concerned about American aid to Israel, perhaps she should tell her pension fund managers "no thanks" to those proceeds emanating from such investments, so as to not be tainted with bloody money.
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You know, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, who's 56, has boasted before about her teacher's pension.
One suspects much of those funds held in her teacher's pension are companies that sell things to Israel, and it could be that those are among the highest performing funds in the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher's retirement account.
If the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher is so concerned about American aid to Israel, perhaps she should tell her pension fund managers "no thanks" to those proceeds emanating from such investments, so as to not be tainted with bloody money.
Coach, you may have said this:
"Hypocrisy, thy name is Democrat Underground."
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proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. They have been stealing land since 1948
I think you know that though. :eyes:
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No stupid..they were granted that land via a treaty and with the blessing of your darling UN.
Now if Roe v Wade is supposed to be settled law after about half that time I would think that the right of Israel to exist should be as well.
Israel would be twice the size it is now if it had not given back territory it had won over the years defending itself against attacks..heck if they had not been restrained I doubt a country called Egypt would exist today.
The reason that libs hate Israel with a passion is because it is found in the Bible...no other reason except that its existence is a reminder of the God of eternity and also the reason that those opposed to Him have sought its extermination throughout the ages.
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They locked it down. It was starting to get to "Kill the Jews" in there for the mods to be comfortable.
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They locked it down. It was starting to get to "Kill the Jews" in there for the mods to be comfortable.
Wonder how the DUmp will react when in 17 days the obamanation comes out in support ( they will be vague in it but..) of Israel.
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No stupid..they were granted that land via a treaty and with the blessing of your darling UN.
Now if Roe v Wade is supposed to be settled law after about half that time I would think that the right of Israel to exist should be as well.
Israel would be twice the size it is now if it had not given back territory it had won over the years defending itself against attacks..heck if they had not been restrained I doubt a country called Egypt would exist today.
The reason that libs hate Israel with a passion is because it is found in the Bible...no other reason except that its existence is a reminder of the God of eternity and also the reason that those opposed to Him have sought its extermination throughout the ages.
Hi5 Carl. I';d rather that neither side was shooting at each other but if there has to be a winner It shouldn't be a bunch of terrorist like Hamas. Israel has done all it could to live in peace and this is what they get. That witch of a school teacher in Kansas should go and sign up for the human shield program if she is so pro Hamas.
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Wonder how the DUmp will react when in 17 days the obamanation comes out in support ( they will be vague in it but..) of Israel.
They will blame it on Washington's "corporate Zionist masters". Obama will get a pass. It will not be his fault.
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They locked it down. It was starting to get to "Kill the Jews" in there for the mods to be comfortable.
I bet TiT is in love with that.
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Wonder how the DUmp will react when in 17 days the obamanation comes out in support ( they will be vague in it but..) of Israel.
Oh, they will go ballistic. Pelosi came out in support. So did Reid. The arab world will feel betrayed. Even if Big O gives just lip service, he was the muslim pick and he betrayed them.
DU has officially sided with terrorists. Many support the Hamas violence/rocket attacks saying the Pals have nothing else they can do. I think this is projection. DU wants to be violent too. The open communists have advocated violent overthrow for a long time over there.
Bottom line: the moment BO opens his mouth on the subject, he betrays 70% of his base, and all the muslim world.
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Oh, they will go ballistic. Pelosi came out in support. So did Reid. The arab world will feel betrayed. Even if Big O gives just lip service, he was the muslim pick and he betrayed them.
DU has officially sided with terrorists. Many support the Hamas violence/rocket attacks saying the Pals have nothing else they can do. I think this is projection. DU wants to be violent too. The open communists have advocated violent overthrow for a long time over there.
Bottom line: the moment BO opens his mouth on the subject, he betrays 70% of his base, and all the muslim world.
B I N G O !
No adult that lives in the real world can surrender to the islamists even if they hate what Israel is and stands for.
Obama will support Israel but he will hedge and that will be the start of islamists thinking they have another paper tiger.
Hope Israel will finish this once and for all because if they don`t the obamanation will truly lead us into a possible third world war.
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proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-04-09 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. They have been stealing land since 1948
I think you know that though. :eyes:
The Palestinians had a chance at their own land in 1948. They turned it down. They let their hatred of Jews override common sense and what was best for the Palestinian people.
They've suffered in a self created mess ever since.
And it was only made worse when they started following the Egyptian engineer.
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(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z284/pldmich/Islam-Judaism.jpg)
In 2007 Islam and Judaism's holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days.
Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks across 10
countries during this time... while Jews worked on their 159th Nobel Prize.
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Wonder how the DUmp will react when in 17 days the obamanation comes out in support ( they will be vague in it but..) of Israel.
I'm not sure, but I know it will result in some solid entertainment when he does!
:-)
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proud2Blib
They have been stealing land since 1948
And according to your viewpoint, you live on land stolen from the American Indians, so as soon as you pack up and leave then you can complain about others. 'K?
Idiot.
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