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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on December 30, 2008, 05:49:12 AM
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Oh my.
burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-29-08 11:40 PM
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Today I went to purchase three items at the Lowe's home improvememt store
a machete, a branch lopper, and a mailbox.
I looked everywhere but could not find anything that was manufactured in the US. The only products available were all, every single one, made in China. The products were cheap, plastic, inferior products.
I had little choice but to purchase these products.
I could not believe how sad this made me.
I don't think a primitive should be allowed to purchase two of those three things, as they can be weapons to attack decent and civilized people.
One can't trust the primitives.
Anyway, the axeing primitive is missing the point.
Because of the demand for cheap goods, well, one gets what one pays for.
Hydra (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-29-08 11:43 PM
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1. Similar story last year
We has a little money and wanted to get a set of drawers. Hard enough to get made in the US, IMPOSSIBLE to get in solid wood. I was beginning to wonder if I'd have to make it myself.
efhmc (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-29-08 11:43 PM
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2. Try finding something safe to cook food in for your family.
Because of the demand for cheap food, well, one gets what one pays for.
Veganistan (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-29-08 11:44 PM
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3. If you have any ACE or True Value hardware stores, they tend to carry more
American made products. Don't get me wrong, they carry plenty of Chinese crap too, and of course you pay a little more, but I've found better equipment at these stores.
Of course. Ace Hardware is the greatest. I buy my cookware, dinnerware, small kitchen appliances, gardening tools, Christmas gifts, birthday presents, bath towels, cat litter boxes, &c., &c., &c., at Ace Hardware, made in America stuff but at cheap imported goods prices.
It could very well be that this is the least "made in China" home in America.
burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-29-08 11:45 PM
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6. I wonder if there is actually a great deal more demand for US made products than we are led to believe. Frickin Walmart.
No, there isn't, and especially among the primitives demanding cheap goods.
Has anyone here ever been in a primitive house? I have.
specimenfred1984 (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-29-08 11:59 PM
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11. Home Depot's CEO recently suggested dems "should be shot"
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/63716-home-depot-ceo-a-ce...
It's a wonderful country the U.S. has turned into, a torturous, spying, election-rigging, bailout of fascists, lie factory.
Oh my.
I went to the link to see if what the stool specimen primitive said is true, given that primitives lie about the contents of links they post, but alas it's a sound video. Can anyone here with ears take a look, and confirm if the guy actually said that?
marmar (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-29-08 11:45 PM
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5. I just took a look around the kitchen......NOTHING made in the USA.
Not the coffeemaker, dishes, microwave.....Nothing.
And I'll bet they're all cheap goods, too, because the marmalade primitive's too tight to buy quality products.
Orrex (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-30-08 12:07 AM
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14. The last time I had to buy a pair of end-nippers, I bought Channellock
A fine product, manufactured close to home in Meadville, PA.
Well, the good people at Lowe's no longer stock this item. Instead, they offer a similar product made in China. And it costs $2.00 more.
Channellocks are great, the best pliers in the world. Wouldn't have any other.
But with all these primitives running around demanding cheap goods.....
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-30-08 12:17 AM
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16. Every now and again, I post the "look around" challenge .....
..... I pick a room and then suggest people look around and try to find anything less than a few years old that was made in the USA.
The list is always very small.
And getting smaller.
Hmmm. One suspects the sparkling husband primitive, who didn't make the cut for the runners-up of the Top 10 DUmmies of 2008, has a house--and many rental units--chock full of cheap goods.
And here we get a nice little stretchy, primitives putting words into the mouths of small children:
bevoette (390 posts) Tue Dec-30-08 12:18 AM
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17. my 6 year old niece is CONSTANTLY walking around looking...at where things are made
sometimes we play a game while i'm cooking and she's hanging out in the kitchen with me: she starts looking at things - refrigerator magnets, utensils, stools, toothpick dispenser, whatever - trying to find something "Made in USA". i count, and we see how long it takes
she asks regularly "how come everything is made in China?" in this totally exasperated voice
i've told her it's because there are a LOT of people in China and they make a LOT of stuff so they can make money because our country decided to buy their stuff instead of making our own
she said "how come we don't make our own? then we could keep the money!"
so i don't know what floors me more - that at 6 yoa, it even DAWNS on her to think about where things are made...or how easily she sees the solution when so many in charge don't
Gilligan (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-30-08 12:41 AM
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24. An observation:
makes me wonder...
User name: burythehatchet
buying a machete and a branch lopper...
If you had included a hundred square feet of plastic drop cloth, duct tape and bleach I would begin to wonder what the mailbox was REALLY for.
Yeah, franksolich wonders about that too.
TheGoldenRule (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-30-08 01:18 AM
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28. The quality of Made in China crap has gotten worse-it's hard to believe it's possible but it is.
I have noticed the difference quite distinctly with many products this past year from clothing to small appliances to garden tools to even something as cheap as a shower curtain.
The quality is so bad that I didn't bother replacing our broken microwave that was less than a year old. I also ended up buying a Mr. Coffee cheapo coffee maker because it was NO different than the more expensive Braun coffee maker that I had planned on buying until I saw how crappy it was.
It's bad. Real bad.
It's bad because the golden rude primitive's looking for cheap goods.
And the Perry Como primitive, the chronically unemployed fat one:
Perragrande (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-30-08 03:41 AM
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31. I've got lots of old and very solid kitchen stuff.
I have lots of Corning Ware, made in Corning, NY.
Pyrex, made by Corning.
Stainless steel pots made in the USA.
Table Dinnerware made in the U.S.A. Syracuse is still making china for restaurants.
I got two sterling silver bell Christmas ornaments with the Wallace and Towle name on them--old American brands, and they were both made in China.
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These people look for shit to be pissed off about.
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Machete's are made out of plastic now?
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Machete's are made out of plastic now?
The handles. The moron could have always went to a cutlery shop to get one made in the US, and with a more durable handle, but it would have cost him probably 10 times what he paid. He's just looking for something to be pissed off about so he can bring it to the DUmp and give all the other DUmbasses a reason to be pissed off. I guess the idiots use it, and things like it, as a way to blame their failures on something else, other than themselves.
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The handles. The moron could have always went to a cutlery shop to get one made in the US, and with a more durable handle, but it would have cost him probably 10 times what he paid. He's just looking for something to be pissed off about so he can bring it to the DUmp and give all the other DUmbasses a reason to be pissed off. I guess the idiots use it, and things like it, as a way to blame their failures on something else, other than themselves.
But you know, the prospect of a primitive running loose with a machete is, uh, rather disturbing.
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These people look for shit to be pissed off about.
And they will never lay the blame at the feet of the person that allowed the U.S. to be flooded with all these cheap products made in China.
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The only decent machetes are Ontario Knife ones. Easy to find on-line through survival and shooting sports retailers, but not carried by any major hardware retailer because you have to pay a quality price to get a quality product, and they cost four times what the cheap, lightweight, and utterly useless ones carried by hardware/building/big-box stores do. Also the only place you can find the heavy-duty milsurp green plastic sleeves to replace cheap-ass cloth scabbards.
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A machete made in America would probably cost $500.00 because of union dues, union wages and liability insurance.
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All of my firearms are made in the USA and all the ammo. Although I am looking at an SKS so that may change.
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specimenfred1984 (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-29-08 11:59 PM
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11. Home Depot's CEO recently suggested dems "should be shot"
As ALL traitors to the United States of America should.
"Bernie Marcus for President!!!111"
And now, a message from the source of our inspiration:
(http://tinyurl.com/33v4gh)
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Machete's are made out of plastic now?
Shhh...the DUmmy is on a roll...let's not let stupidity ruin their fantasy.
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Lies, all around -
Mailbox at Lowes - http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=258955-64152-5506S&lpage=none
And the manufacturers page -- http://www.architecturalmailboxes.com/default.aspx "America's leading manufacturer of premium mailboxes"
Mailboxes are made of powder coated steel with brass accents.
Lopper at Lowes - http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=82581-63731-SL6500D&lpage=none
Machete at Lowes http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=201946-63731-MA60041D
Both of the products have steel handles, covered with plastic/rubber grips, read the Lowes desriptions
Manufacturers page - http://www.coronaclipper.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=cControllerFrontend.fControlFrontendCompanyAbout - Was US based until 2000 Bought out by a Spanish company.
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http://www.coldsteel.com/latinmachetes.html
http://www.coldsteel.com/machetes.html
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I went to the link to see if what the stool specimen primitive said is true, given that primitives lie about the contents of links they post, but alas it's a sound video. Can anyone here with ears take a look, and confirm if the guy actually said that?
Coach, all the file was was the "young Turk" idiot "quoting" the Home Depot CEO. Said idiot (different from a primitive, in that he hasn't proved himself worthy to be a primitive--yet) just read from a sheet of paper, as opposed to having the sound of said CEO actually saying the quote in question.
What a douchebag the "quoter" is. In the future, if said douchebag is going to make such an accusation, he should have the audio of the quote--it makes him more credible in the eyes of the world.
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I got a most excellent American-made machete off of CheaperThanDirt a couple of years ago. Has a serrated back edge for sawing through the larger branches (or bones... mwahaha) that a stiff swing won't take care of. Even came with a really nice rubber sheath. (Keeps the blood stains at bay)
edit: Reading posts further up, I believe it is an Ontario.. so maybe it's Canadian-made, close enough I guess, North American-made.
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I think the Dewy Cox brand machetes are US made.
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Mine was made in Honduras. ...and it's a piece of shit.
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You know, forgive my utter ignorance, but what use would one possibly have for a machete, unless one is chopping sugar cane in Honduras or Cuba?
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You know, forgive my utter ignorance, but what use would one possibly have for a machete, unless one is chopping sugar cane in Honduras or Cuba?
A machete fight.
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You know, forgive my utter ignorance, but what use would one possibly have for a machete, unless one is chopping sugar cane in Honduras or Cuba?
Oh hey! Maybe the prim is planning on moving to Cuba to get some of that thar free health care they got there. Probably need a machete for that.
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axeing primitive seeks to purchase dangerous weapons
a machete, a branch lopper, and a mailbox.
I got a chuckle out of that. :-)
And you're right... Ace Hardware is the best. I've been to every automotive and hardware store within ten miles since I bought that motorcycle and I have never had a problem finding exactly what I needed at Ace. The rest of them are an overpriced, understocked waste of time. I'm convinced Advanced Auto should be renamed "The floor mat, shitty wheel cover, and cardboard air freshener store".
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I missed this earlier -- More lies about Lowes from another primitive -
Orrex (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-30-08 12:07 AM
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14. The last time I had to buy a pair of end-nippers, I bought Channellock
A fine product, manufactured close to home in Meadville, PA.
Well, the good people at Lowe's no longer stock this item. Instead, they offer a similar product made in China. And it costs $2.00 more.
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=69645-922-357&lpage=none
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=39560-922-35-250&lpage=none
These DUmmies need to do more fact-checking and less cheerleading.
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These DUmmies need to do more fact-checking and less cheerleading.
It's all about their feelings. They feel slighted, so it must me so.
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You know, forgive my utter ignorance, but what use would one possibly have for a machete, unless one is chopping sugar cane in Honduras or Cuba?
While I really like Duke's answer, I'd have to say in the Nebraska Sandhills, "Not much." In the primrose-choked mountain stream gorges of the Ozarks where I live, though, lots. A good point-heavy machete, in the 20"+ range (like an Ontario or some of the Cold Steel numbers), is an excellent tool for working one's way through even the densest overgrowth of thorny rose, berry, greenbriar etc. vines. They are great for backpacking, being lighter and far more versatile than a hatchet but able to chop up anything a hatchet could handle...invaluable for the woodsman or primitive camper.
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You know, forgive my utter ignorance, but what use would one possibly have for a machete, unless one is chopping sugar cane in Honduras or Cuba?
Clearing away underbrush, clearing trails through the woods, or other things like that.
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They are great...invaluable for the woodsman or primitive camper.
As if we'd ever see the primitives come out of their parents' basements. ::) :whatever: :uhsure: