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Title: notice to lurking primitives (update 07-29-09)
Post by: franksolich on December 17, 2008, 01:24:03 PM
This is information for lurking primitives only; decent and civilized people can ignore it and move on to other things.

As the primitives know, our old home, conservativeunderground, is the web-site that my fellow alum Skins prohibits from mention or linkage on Skins's island.

Why conservativeunderground is "the site that shall not be named" is a long story, so never mind.

My fellow alum Skins allows primitives to mention, and to link to, other conservative web-sites.  In fact, freerepublic, the biggest and the best, is mentioned, and linked to, several times a day on Skins's island.

conservativecave is NOT "the site that shall not be named."

Carry on.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: lars1701c on December 17, 2008, 01:25:55 PM
Where can i find out the reason why they are not allowed to mention CU on Du?


Thanks coach :)
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: franksolich on December 17, 2008, 01:29:33 PM
Where can i find out the reason why they are not allowed to mention CU on Du?

Here is what I know, which might, or might not, be correct:

The people who founded our old home, before they founded our old home, being disgusted and distressed at the Hate on Skins's island, were for a short time actual members there, protesting against the Hate.

They of course were quickly mausoleumed.

And so our old home was founded, to mock the primitives.

My fellow alum Skins didn't like it, and so immediately forbade mention of our old home.

Again, this information might, or might not, be accurate.

Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: lars1701c on December 17, 2008, 01:35:30 PM
Its makes sense with DU to banish or forbid anyone to mention a site that mocks them
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on December 17, 2008, 01:36:16 PM
Here is what I know, which might, or might not, be correct:

The people who founded our old home, before they founded our old home, being disgusted and distressed at the Hate on Skins's island, were for a short time actual members there, protesting against the Hate.

They of course were quickly mausoleumed.

And so our old home was founded, to mock the primitives.

My fellow alum Skins didn't like it, and so immediately forbade mention of our old home.

Again, this information might, or might not, be accurate.


When DU first came online,they allowed conservatives to post there....but it got very ugly in short order! As you may remember Frank! :lmao:
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: franksolich on December 17, 2008, 01:36:39 PM
Its makes sense with DU to banish or forbid anyone to mention a site that mocks them

Right.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 17, 2008, 01:39:07 PM
Where can i find out the reason why they are not allowed to mention CU on Du?


Thanks coach :)

It's a long story, so I'll give you the cliff's notes version.

Sometime in 2004, links to CU were prevalent.  There wasn't even a Best/Worst forum.  When that forum started getting hopping, $kimmer checked it out and made CU "the site that shall not be named."
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: USA4ME on December 17, 2008, 01:42:18 PM
I was at CU when the B/W forum was created.  Zeus was there, as was Dark Halo, so they too could confirm.

I found CU from someone mentioning it at DU in January, 2004, as I came to find out others at CU had done also.  We started talking about the site, and bringing over threads at which to poke fun, and there got to be so many that RobCrook created the B/W forum to house them all around mid-February, 2004.

There was a certain CUer, a lib named ElectroPrincess (on-line friend of SLW) who also posted at the DUmp, that commented when the B/W forum was created "Oh boy, you've done it now!!"  I remember responding to her post with a comment like "No way!  They won't care that we're over here poking fun at them."  OK, I admit I made the wrong call there.

CU was not "the site that shall not be named" for a month or two until around April, 2004.  That's when a poster named supercrash started a thread at the DUmp on someone ripping him to shreads and linked to the thread at CU.  He came over to CU, several others from the DUmp followed, and to avoid what, I suppose, could be a board war, Skin's made it illegal to mention the name "CU."  Given the primitives inability to follow the good advise of their leader, they desired to continue to make reference to the site, and thus the name "the site that shall not be named."

The only other forum I know that gets that designation is a Deaniac shoot-off from the DUmp called "peopleforchange" a/k/a P4C which started up in April/May, 2004.

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Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: franksolich on December 17, 2008, 01:49:47 PM
When DU first came online,they allowed conservatives to post there....but it got very ugly in short order! As you may remember Frank! :lmao:

I became aware of Skins's island in late January, early February, 2001; it opened up the day George Bush was inaugurated president, Alphonse Capote Gore having tried to steal Florida, and failed.

I registered there, but due to modesty, because I didn't have a whole lot to say, I didn't say much.

But for a couple of years, I paid it little attention, looking at it maybe once or twice a week, four or five minutes at a time.  The Bostonian Drunkard even back then, in his more youthful days, was boring.

I had been lurking at freerepublic since late 1998 (but never became a member there until October 2003, as I'm not the sort of person who arrogantly shoves himself into a web-site; I like to get used to things first), and once in a while Skins's island was mentioned, which inspired me to look at it a little more often.

But it wasn't until the advent of P-J Comix's most-excellent DUmmie FUnnies the autumn of 2004, that I began paying attention.  Autumn 2004 was when Doug's ex-wife et al. came aboard there, and one could sense mischief was afoot.

And then during Doug's ex-wife's mischief, I became aware of our old home, "the site that shall not be named," and got out the boat and rowed over to Skins's island somewhat more often.

While we were still over at our old home, I paid attention to only "General Discussion" on Skins's island; in fact, I wasn't even aware any other forums existed.

It takes me time to learn things.

However, one has to agree that most primitives also think "General Discussion" is the only forum on Skins's island.  It's hip, it's cool, it's trendy, it's with it, to be in "General Discussion," and if aware of other forums, the primitives think those other forums aren't important.

The primitives want to be hip, cool, trendy, with it.

It wasn't until we all migrated over here from our old home that I became aware of these other forums.  Being named a moderator here, I felt a moral obligation to post the best that one could find on Skins's island, and so I motivated myself to go exploring.

I'm still exploring; it's been a long process, but then and again, one has to remember the nature of Skins's island, small, congested with primitives, congested with all sorts of flora and fauna, things utterly alien to decent and civilized people.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on December 17, 2008, 02:27:25 PM
I was at CU when the B/W forum was created.  Zeus was there, as was Dark Halo, so they too could confirm.

I found CU from someone mentioning it at DU in January, 2004, as I came to find out others at CU had done also.  We started talking about the site, and bringing over threads at which to poke fun, and there got to be so many that RobCrook created the B/W forum to house them all around mid-February, 2004.

There was a certain CUer, a lib named ElectroPrincess (on-line friend of SLW) who also posted at the DUmp, that commented when the B/W forum was created "Oh boy, you've done it now!!"  I remember responding to her post with a comment like "No way!  They won't care that we're over here poking fun at them."  OK, I admit I made the wrong call there.

CU was not "the site that shall not be named" for a month or two until around April, 2004.  That's when a poster named supercrash started a thread at the DUmp on someone ripping him to shreads and linked to the thread at CU.  He came over to CU, several others from the DUmp followed, and to avoid what, I suppose, could be a board war, Skin's made it illegal to mention the name "CU."  Given the primitives inability to follow the good advise of their leader, they desired to continue to make reference to the site, and thus the name "the site that shall not be named."

The only other forum I know that gets that designation is a Deaniac shoot-off from the DUmp called "peopleforchange" a/k/a P4C which started up in April/May, 2004.

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I think they've since thrown KOS in there as well.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Miss Mia on December 17, 2008, 11:07:28 PM
I think they've since thrown KOS in there as well.

No, you can mention Kos and people post links to it.

I personally joined DU in March of 2005.  I soon learned of CU.  I can't remember when I joined there, sometime later that year. 
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Chris on December 17, 2008, 11:08:42 PM
Kos and MSNBC are practially the same thing.  You can't mention one without bringing up the other.

And there's that Olbermann guy.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: whiffleball on December 21, 2008, 06:42:25 AM
Sometimes the moderators remove the references, sometimes they lock the thread with something like, "We don't want to give that site traffic."  They do the same with certain CT sites.  I can understand getting rid of some of the CT sites since they're even nuttier than DU, but never got the reason CU couldn't be linked.  There must be more behind it than just refusing to give traffic.

Haven't noticed if they've thrown in PI or DW.   There are always DUmmies denigrating the Island and Skins on those two sites using the same posting name they use at DU.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: thundley4 on December 21, 2008, 07:46:49 AM
Has any DUmmie lurker accepted a challenge and openly registered here to defend their beliefs?   :rotf:
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: franksolich on December 21, 2008, 07:49:24 AM
Has any DUmmie lurker accepted a challenge and openly registered here to defend their beliefs?   :rotf:

Pedro Picasso ("Atman") did, but got just really stupid and silly really fast, so he was booted.  That was about a couple of months ago.

I mean to say the guy acted like a six-year-old little girl.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Chris_ on December 21, 2008, 01:13:41 PM
Has any DUmmie lurker accepted a challenge and openly registered here to defend their beliefs?   :rotf:

Have you seen what passes for "defense" over there?  They know if they come here and start spewing their ignorant commie crap here they won't last 10 seconds.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Eupher on December 21, 2008, 03:26:38 PM
Have you seen what passes for "defense" over there?  They know if they come here and start spewing their ignorant commie crap here they won't last 10 seconds.

Is that really the case? Or are they allowed to spew their garbage -- knowing that lusty debate generally occurs afterwards?

I think the chew toy thing comes in a little later after the error of their ways has been illustrated.

The little I've seen of DU (very, very little) tells me that they are quick to dispose of a poster who doesn't run lock-step with that crowd of primitives. I'd like to think that this place is a little more accommodating.

Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Chris_ on December 21, 2008, 03:30:56 PM
Is that really the case? Or are they allowed to spew their garbage -- knowing that lusty debate generally occurs afterwards?

I think the chew toy thing comes in a little later after the error of their ways has been illustrated.

The little I've seen of DU (very, very little) tells me that they are quick to dispose of a poster who doesn't run lock-step with that crowd of primitives. I'd like to think that this place is a little more accommodating.



That is an accurate sentiment.  It takes very little to get kicked off $kinner's island.  Even during the Obillary wars you had to be careful how much you said bad about the other candidate.

You have to be a super-duper-quadruper jerk to get kicked off here.

I wonder why I am still here...?
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Chris on December 21, 2008, 03:32:57 PM
That is an accurate sentiment.  It takes very little to get kicked off $kinner's island.  Even during the Obillary wars you had to be careful how much you said bad about the other candidate.

All three people had to do on Friday was vote on a poll and Skinner banned their asses post-haste.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Chris_ on December 21, 2008, 03:35:49 PM
All three people had to do on Friday was vote on a poll and Skinner banned their asses post-haste.
I find it interesting that a place with the word "democratic" in its name won't even allow secret polls.

I don't know if the ones we have here are secret -- I suspect the mods here just don't give a damn what anyone votes in a poll.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Chris on December 21, 2008, 03:38:30 PM
I find it interesting that a place with the word "democratic" in its name won't even allow secret polls.

I don't know if the ones we have here are secret -- I suspect the mods here just don't give a damn what anyone votes in a poll.


Yes.  :-)

I can't see who voted in polls.  It may be an admin thing. 
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Chris_ on December 21, 2008, 05:09:05 PM
Yes.  :-)

I can't see who voted in polls.  It may be an admin thing. 

Well then how do you know who is to be banned?  Bad Thoughts must be punished, Slacker (/DUmmy admin mode).
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Carl on December 21, 2008, 07:20:33 PM
I for one would relish having a few come and enter in an honest and civil debate.

There is no fear here and I know that speaks for everyone.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: whiffleball on December 22, 2008, 09:19:09 AM
All three people had to do on Friday was vote on a poll and Skinner banned their asses post-haste.

Which ones were they?  I only noticed one who was banned then reinstated within minutes.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 22, 2008, 09:28:32 AM
Which ones were they?  I only noticed one who was banned then reinstated within minutes.

One of the banned posted a reply here (http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=202&topic_id=9574#11) :

Quote
Reply #11: I was banned...

kirby

Member since Dec 20th 2008
1 posts
Sat Dec-20-08 10:18 PM
In response to Original Post

I am kirby who was banned. The ridiculous part of this is that it is was a misunderstanding. After I was banned without any warning or notice (just could not login), I started scratching my head to figure out what the heck I had done. I came across Skinners post above.

The poll in question was 'Is it hate speech to say that homosexuality is like incest and pedophilia?' and the context was Rick Warren being chosen to give the invocation.
Well when I quickly read this poll and voted, I mistakenly thought the question was 'hate crime', not 'hate speech'. I voted no because I did not think someones hateful speech should land them in prison charged with a hate crime. That seemed Orwellian to me.

I sent an email to DU to explain this misunderstanding, but they have ignored it so far.

As someone who supports gay rights and someone who had been on DU for almost 2 years (and donated), I felt unfairly punished and publicly embarrassed due to a simple misunderstanding. Talk about Draconian. I never got an email or a PM where I could have clarified what happened. And in this instance, he posted the three people who voted no (privacy policy violated?), banned me, and locked the thread so I never had a chance to correct the record.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Carl on December 22, 2008, 09:31:35 AM
Welcome to the real world of lib tolerance.....quite a bit different then what they proclaim isn`t it.

Then again so is the rest of the lib agenda.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: jinxmchue on December 22, 2008, 11:23:29 AM
It's a long story, so I'll give you the cliff's notes version.

Sometime in 2004, links to CU were prevalent.  There wasn't even a Best/Worst forum.  When that forum started getting hopping, $kimmer checked it out and made CU "the site that shall not be named."

And the short-short version:

$kimmer is a gigantic titty-baby.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: whiffleball on December 22, 2008, 12:30:12 PM
One of the banned posted a reply here (http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=202&topic_id=9574#11) :


Interesting, Ralph, thank you.  kirby, FloridaGrl, cherokeeprogressive, Beelzebud, Mutineer, Minstrel Boy, Kingshakabobo all banned because of their vote on a 'Democratic' board.  I thought one of their mottos was "Your vote belongs to you"?  Apparently, they all belong to Skins.  Two of the names I don't recognize, but the other 5 were long time members as I recall.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives
Post by: Chris on December 22, 2008, 08:06:38 PM
It was these three:

Quote
Skinner ADMIN  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-19-08 02:22 PM (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,19685.0.html)
Response to Original message
35. Locking.
 And we've just banned the three people who voted no.

kirby
FloridaGrl
cherokeeprogressive
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives (update 07-29-09)
Post by: franksolich on July 29, 2009, 02:30:42 PM
I dunno why, but this ancient thread has been getting a lot of visitors reading it, so I decided to drag it up front again, for the convenience of lurking primitives.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives (update 07-29-09)
Post by: kenth on July 29, 2009, 05:32:57 PM
It still amazes me that they will ban if you give the "wrong" answer on a poll.
Title: Re: notice to lurking primitives (update 07-29-09)
Post by: Chris_ on July 30, 2009, 11:37:02 AM
Mole traps....