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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on December 17, 2008, 04:49:16 AM
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 09:34 PM
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Obama appoints two more DLCers to his cabinet
Obama names Vilsack agriculture secretary
WASHINGTON, Dec 16 (Reuters) - President-elect Barack Obama, a backer of tighter farm subsidy rules and renewable fuels from rural America, selected former Gov. Tom Vilsack from the major U.S. farm state of Iowa to be agriculture secretary, a Democratic official said on Tuesday.
The nomination would be announced at a press conference in Chicago at 10:45 a.m. CST on Wednesday, along with his selection for Interior secretary, Colorado Sen. Ken Salazar.
Both appointments require confirmation by the Senate, where Democrats have a majority.
Obama supports a $250,000 a year "hard" cap on farm payments and stricter rules on who qualifies as a farmer, changes that could save $100 million a year. Last month, he cited a congressional report on improper farm payments as an example of where to save federal money.
more: http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSN16...
It was only a few months ago when some DUers were using Obama's clinching of the nomination as a reason to celebrate the end of the DLC. Little did they know Obama, although not a DLC member, certainly has no problem with working DLCers:
SECRETARY OF STATE: Hillary Rodham Clinton
HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: Gov. Janet Napolitano
COMMERCE SECRETARY: Gov. Bill Richardson
NATIONAL ECONOMIC COUNCIL DIRECTOR: Lawrence Summers
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SECRETARY: Tom Daschle
CHIEF OF STAFF: Rahm Emmanuel
The primitives don't like it, despite that it's the Democrat Leadership Council that gave them Skins's island in the first place.
Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 09:40 PM
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4. Every single one who has served in elected office is a DLCer
The DLC usually doesn't list non-elected officials as members.
I do not know if Harkin is associated with the DLC, but he has not been appointed to any position in the Obama cabinet.
Some subtle sarcasm, although the anti-DLC primitives might miss it:
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 09:35 PM
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3. Obama has betrayed us.
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Unless Obama personally goes out and shoots every last DLCer dead, he's betrayed us.
grantcart (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-17-08 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #11
32. and he has to eliminate any record of them from human history.
(1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 09:43 PM
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6. Yeah, Obama has reached out to all kinds of Americans to be in his admin because he believes in governing all of the country not just parts of it.
Thank Goodness Obama WON!
Double_Talk_Express (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. not only Republicans....but the Republican Wing of the Democratic Party! (RWoDP)
depakid (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #6
16. You may be singing a different tune this time next year
If failed Republican & DINO policies are recycled by some of these picks, and the economy- as well as progressive groups react accordingly.
We shall see- it's entirely possible that 2010 will look a lot like 1994...
Born_A_Truman (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 09:48 PM
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12. Good question
It's amazing that these "bad choices" haven't served one day in the Obama administration yet now we know we've been "sold out".
firedupdem (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 10:06 PM
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17. What's the problem?
dflprincess (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 10:40 PM
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25. The problem is that Obama is surrounding himself with people who supported the policies that got us in the mess we're in today. And we're suppose to believe they'll get us out of it?
Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 10:14 PM
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19. There really wasn't any good reason for you to start this thread.
Why would you HATE progressive Dems anyway? Have any of us ever done anything that was all that terrible?
You know perfectly well that anyone you'd have wanted to be nominated in '72 would've lost 49 states too. The China trip and the Dirty Tricks squad were to blame for that, not McGovern.
prodn2000 (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Where did the OP say that he "HATE(ed) Progressives?"
Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. You don't know Freddie.
That's his whole thing, dissing anyone in the party that doesn't think the DLC are our natural leaders.
He's been on that jag for years now.
Wow. If that's the jag the stubby primitive's been on for years now, more power to him.
calipendence (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-17-08 12:10 AM
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29. Maybe, just maybe, he'll do the war on the DLC later! and this is the beginning of that...
If he hires a lot of elected DLC officials from congress, and they get replaced with non-DLCers (hopefully), and then once later he declares war on the DLC if they don't do the right thing for grass roots Dems. and just turns around and fires all of those he just hired and in effect takes them out of office that way. Then we have both the congress "cleaner" and then perhaps his cabinet cleaner later.
I can only hope that's what's in store! Anyway, Barack, you have that excuse later, if it becomes clear to the whole nation that the DLC is the cancer (which many of us believe that it is) that is in the way of real reform. You could come off looking like a genius later if you pulled this off in this way...
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-17-08 12:26 AM
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34. Let me get this straight
Obama is hiring all these DLC'ers to work for him, some of them at the highest levels in his administration, because he secretly wants to wipe them all off the face of the map by having them all fail and then firing them all.
Sounds logical to me
Laelth (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-17-08 12:17 AM
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31. Good!
I want to see every DLC member of congress out of the congress (where they can't be fired) and, instead, placed in appointed positions where Obama can fire them at will if they don't toe the line.
This could work out very well, indeed, for the progressive agenda.
QC (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-17-08 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #31
38. I just know there's a pony in here somewhere!
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Yet more proof that primitives are a miserable lot incapable of being happy over anything, including winning an election.
I think the next four years will be very intertaining on the island.
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Think maybe it is dawning on some of the fools that the socialist paradise in which they were magically going to be overlords in just isn`t going to happen.
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Ken Burch
Why would you HATE progressive Dems anyway? Have any of us ever done anything that was all that terrible?
Let's see, you consistently run down America for looking out for its own interests around the world, you say things and do things that undermine the troops on foreign soil, you want to treat our sworn enemies as though they have legitimate grievences, you hate capitalism, you hate law enforcement, you "demand" all sorts of economically unsustainable things, you hate anyone who doesn't agree with you politically, you support abortion (murder), you support fags getting married, etc...
Nope, can't think of a single thing you've done that's terrible. :whatever:
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 10:40 PM
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25. The problem is that Obama is surrounding himself with people who supported the policies that got us in the mess we're in today. And we're suppose to believe they'll get us out of it?
Maybe, DUmbass, this could give you a clue about who is really responsible for "the mess". Why would the O'Wise and All-Knowing Big Zero turn to these folks? Hmmmm?
Could it be, DUmbass, these DLCers aren't the problem and the problem is your Marxist idols who you so trusted The Big Zero to support?
Either way, DUmbass, you were wrong. You voted for The Big Zero and you support Marxist goons.
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How's that "change" stuff working for you DUmmies?
That's what they hope to collect off the street soon . . .