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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Crazy Horse on December 02, 2008, 11:04:59 AM
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Oh this is so telling
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x406541
Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-02-08 11:27 AM
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Why We Need EFCA
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http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=why_we_need...
Despite its paltry membership, the U.S. labor movement remains the nation's most potent force for progressive change and the most effective vehicle for electing Democrats.
Peter Dreier and Kelly Candaele | December 2, 2008 | web only
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Labor activists carried Trumka's message to union voters. On Election Day, union members, including white males, were more likely than nonunion counterparts to vote for Obama and Democrats running for Congress and to volunteer for their campaigns.
But unions today represent only 12.1 percent of all American employees. This is a dramatic decline from the numbers a generation ago and significantly fewer than in other affluent countries. If unions represented even 20 percent of the work force, Obama would have won by a landslide. Democrats who narrowly lost their races for Congress would have prevailed.
That's why the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA), designed to strengthen the labor movement, is the most important domestic legislation in decades to advance liberal concerns.
Despite its paltry membership, the U.S. labor movement remains the nation's most potent force for progressive change and the most effective vehicle for electing Democrats. Once in office, pro-labor politicians are typically the strongest advocates of tough environmental laws, funding for public schools and higher education, civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, universal health insurance, affordable housing, and protection of Social Security.
Contrary to business propaganda, unions are good for the economy. A recent study by the nonprofit Economic Roundtable found that union workers in Los Angeles County earn 27 percent more than nonunion workers in the same job. The increased wages for the 800,000 union workers -- 17 percent of the labor force -- adds $7.2 billion a year in pay. As these workers spend their wages on food, clothing, child care, car and home repairs, and other items, their additional buying power creates 64,800 jobs and $11 billion in economic output. Many economists argue that any strategy Obama and Congress use to revitalize the economy should make higher wages -- and stronger unions -- a centerpiece.
If unions are good for workers and good for the economy, why are so few employees union members? Business leaders argue that employees' anti-union attitudes account for the decline in membership, which peaked at 35 percent in the 1950s. In fact, a recent poll found that 58 percent of non-managerial workers would join a union if they could. But they won't vote for a union, much less participate openly in a union-organizing drive, if they fear losing their jobs for doing so.
And there's the rub. Americans have far fewer rights at work than employees in other democratic societies. Current federal laws are an impediment to union organizing rather than a protector of workers' rights. The rules are stacked against workers, making it extremely difficult for even the most talented organizers to win union elections. Under current National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) regulations, any employer with a clever attorney can stall union elections, giving management time to scare the living daylights out of potential recruits.
FULL article at link.
Damn telling right there
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Hmm, which car companies are performing well, ones with labor unions? Or those in the South like Nissan, Honda, BMW, Hyundai, etc.?
**** unions.
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If unions are good for workers and good for the economy, why are so few employees union members? Business leaders argue that employees' anti-union attitudes account for the decline in membership, which peaked at 35 percent in the 1950s. In fact, a recent poll found that 58 percent of non-managerial workers would join a union if they could. But they won't vote for a union, much less participate openly in a union-organizing drive, if they fear losing their jobs for doing so.
Hey STUPID! Why do ya suppose they would lose their jobs? I know you would like to think the employer would fire them for their activities, but the truth is, if a company goes union, many would have to close their doors because they couldn't afford the friggin labor!
Get a clue, DIPSHIT!
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And there's the rub. Americans have far fewer rights at work than employees in other democratic socialist societies.
Fixxed
Hey DUmmie, those other countries also have some of the highest tax rates, and more people on the dole that the US does. Oh wait, for DUmmies, that is a good thing. :banghead:
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Unions have a place. Good unions actually check their members and make sure they are providing a good labor force to employers while representing employee concerns. The problem occurs when the unions decide they can try to rob everybody else.
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I never understood the draw of a union. I'm perfectly capable of representing myself. If I have a problem at work I take it to the boss; if I don't like his answer or I don't like the way I'm treated I go beyond him or I find new employment. Seems pretty simple to me. Never understood the desire to pay someone to tell you what you're sweat is worth, or when you're going on strike for that matter.
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Unions have a place. Good unions actually check their members and make sure they are providing a good labor force to employers while representing employee concerns. The problem occurs when the unions decide they can try to rob everybody else.
Whata ya mean when? Every union I have been in contact with, and I was a super for 25 years, did it every chance they got!!!!!!!!!!
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Whata ya mean when? Every union I have been in contact with, and I was a super for 25 years, did it every chance they got!!!!!!!!!!
A few of the ones that are forbidden to strike aren't too bad. They are a lot weaker in right to work states, so they have to bring something to the table.