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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 21, 2008, 11:57:50 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4508038
My, my.
One can get rather creative while contemplating upon a throne of porcelain in the basement.
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-21-08 11:04 AM
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Say it loud and say it to everyone you know. "Socialized Medicine"
That will bail out the Big 3 and the Little 3 and the Inbetween 3. It will make all our businesses more competitive.
But it has other benefits, too. Right now the national mood is awful. People are angry. People are mistrustful. People are just plain scared. If we can, as a nation, tell everyone that one huge worry - their bodily well being - has been lifted, they will feel much better about all the other crap they're facing.
If Barack Obama wants to make a big splash and lead, this is one for his first hundred days. Couch it and sell it any way you want - bailout for business, concern for the little guy, international competitiveness. It doesn't matter. It helps on many levels.
"Socialized Medicine."
Say it.
It is easy to say.
No euphemism.
"Socialized Medicine."
See how easy that is?
Now, I've said this before, but it's been a while, and so I'm saying it again.
The primitives on Skins's island seem to place undue priority on "free medical care for all;" for some of them, it's not only the main thing, but the only thing.
As an individual who pretty much pays as he goes on health care (insurance is for catastrophic things, and nothing catastrophic has happened since January 20, 1993; if one pre-empts, one prevents), franksolich doesn't rate "medical [or health] care" on even his top 10 priorities, or his top 100, or his top 1,000.
There's a lot of problems more serious.
And so why this primitive obsession about "free medical care for all"?
Back circa 40 years ago, the hippies thought they would stay young forever, live forever. As the decades ground on, it slowly dawned upon the ageing hippies' perception that ooops, no, medicine, science, and technology couldn't keep them young forever.
The hippies are now reaching that time when they're standing at the edge of the Abyss, which we all must sooner or later, and now they're feverishly hoping medicine, science, and technology can at least keep them alive forever.
It's a reasonable and healthy thing to fear Death, but the primitives seem to go overboard with it.
Anyway.
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-21-08 11:08 AM
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4. As I said, it is helpful on *many* levels
It is as close to a panacea as anything ever will be.
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-21-08 12:25 PM
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21. Some people just need to be considered as "left behinders".
We have:
A Democratic president who has studied history - Lincoln's "Team of Rivals" and FDR's "First Hundred Days"
A Democratic House that knows full well who elected them to
A Democratic Senate with enough repubicans who know full well what the mood is at home and that people want to GET SHIT DONE.
This is truly the best chance to get this passed than has existed ...... maybe ever. I don't care if we don't convince these small thinkers to go along or not. Winning involves just one more vote than losing.
The bonfire's mostly the primitives praying for "free medical care," not a jewel of wisdom or wise-crack worth copying-and-pasting.
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Of course the means for paying for this trip through the chocolate factory will be taxes on businesses which naturally the idiot doesn`t think will have an adverse affect on their performance.
Wish I was able to "just believe" in things that make no coherent sense but then I suppose that would make one a DUmmy and that isn`t a desireable place to be.
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Husb2Sparkly
Say it loud and say it to everyone you know. "Socialized Medicine"
That will bail out the Big 3 and the Little 3 and the Inbetween 3. It will make all our businesses more competitive.
:rotf:
Yep, they view it as a panacea.
Hey sparkling husband primitive, all the "free" healthcare in the world isn't going to help companies sell products that people don't want.
These fools continually overlook the problems of socialized medicine, but instead they believe that all people will have a right to healthcare, that the care is of higher quality, that you'll get more for your money, that there will be equal access, and there is less bureaucratic red tape involved. None of these things could be further from the truth.
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Whenever anyone says "Free," I want to hide my wallet.
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Yep, they view it as a panacea.
Hey sparkling husband primitive, all the "free" healthcare in the world isn't going to help companies sell products that people don't want.
These fools continually overlook the problem of socialized medicine, but instead they believe that all people will have a right to healthcare, that the care is of higher quality, that you'll get more for your money, that there will be equal access, and these is less bureaucratic red tape involved. None of these things could be further from the truth.
I suspect the primitives imagine "free medical care for all" as being something like luxurious hotel-suite accomodations in hospitals, R.N.s as personal maids and valets, French-restaurant cuisine, physicians to wipe their asses, and everybody being offered a whole vast cafeteria-type choice of pharmaceuticals.
Oh man.
The primitives don't know shit about "free medical care for all."
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I believe that's one of the first (if ever) threads started by Husb2Sparkly that didn't contain any profanity.
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I believe that's one of the first (if ever) threads started by Husb2Sparkly that didn't contain any profanity.
Give it time . . .
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I believe that's one of the first (if ever) threads started by Husb2Sparkly that didn't contain any profanity.
Maybe the sparkling husband primitive's contemplating sending it to a newspaper.
You know, like that Chief Squatting Bull is contemplating doing with his literary composition after he drains out the obscenities.
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Give it time . . .
I meant in the original post. I'm sure he'll be spouting profanity down thread.
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It apparently hasn't occurred to him that the UAW would absolutely refuse to go along with it if it involves taking something less than their current gold-plated medical benefit package, and there is no way in Hell that a socialized medicine program or even national health insurance program could possibly afford to do that.