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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 19, 2008, 03:47:45 AM
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Oh my.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 02:40 PM
Original message
So much for poverty in Obama's big wrap-up speech.
Then "progressives" wonder why we poor folk don't have all the "hope" we're supposed to be expressing.
We're invisible.
tekisui (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 02:42 PM
Response to Original message
1. Jeez, give him a chance.
What else are you gonna do?
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Ummm, he keeps saying he's been at it for 22 months now...
How much of a chance does he need to speak to us?
As I said, go ahead and attack.... I know it makes you feel better.
"What else are you gonna do?"
A lot of us will be dying... does it matter?
tekisui (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. I am not attacking, I think you are being either lazy, or obtuse.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. Yes,, of course. Poor people are obviously lazy.
And dumb.
Care to go ahead and assign those same qualities to other groups?
Prejudice much?
tekisui (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #15
30. You're hilarious and sensitive. Maybe calm down a little. Did you read the link?
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. Well, that beats heartless and souless, doesn't it?
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. When people start calling names, the rest is moot.
I just don't play that game anymore.
If you're so poor, why do you have fun putting other poor people down?
Isn't it time to reclaim your heart?
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. "He's deliberately avoiding discussion of the poor until after he's elected"
Thank you for admitting it.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. THEN, two things....
stop expecting poor folk to automatically vote for him.
Remember the days when Dems actually had the spine to talk about poverty?
Remember that? They got the votes.
Number 2... don't expect us to be jumping up and down shouting "Hope".
Yes, we "understand how things work".... oh wait, we're poor, so we must be dumb.
How..... very "progressive"
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Huh?
Where did you get, from my post, that I expect anything from anyone?
Your assumption is not only unfounded, but belligerent, offensive, and, yes, it must be said, really dumb.
As for the jumping up and down, I expect, given the giddiness of your post, that you've already done too much of that, landing too often on your head.
Now, go be silly.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. Do you always go to forums for those on the bottom of the ladder in order to post personal attacks?
Are you willing or able to read rules about that?
So here's how it is... what I've said to you is a fact that Dems need to begin to consider and look at how they've strayed from the principles of the Dem party, which used to garner them great loyalty and votes they knew they could count on.
What you've demonstrated is that rather than consider that great past of the party, how the party has strayed and the lack of compassion for people considered beneath them, all they have left is personal attacks.
Just like the right wing.
Very good strategery.
Name removed (0 posts) Tue Oct-28-08 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
Man, it doesn't surprise me that #27 was deleted.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Oh, that's right... how could I have forgotten that what's good for the muddleclass automagically raises poor folk....
Notice there is NOT ONE WORD, EVER about low-income housing, among other things.
I guess if we go to college while living in our cars, then everything will be just hunky-dory.
FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. I think that getting a job would be important as a start, don't you?
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Sure 'nuff. ALL 80 year olds should rush right out and get that damned job.
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. So, you're 80 years old, living in your car, and going to college, all the while bemoaning some kind of fate on DU?
Congratulations on your first-rate ability to multitask.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Did I say that?
Congratulations on your obvious compassion.
Oh, and yes... I do live in my car.
Does that matter to you?
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. No
Nothing you might assert here, given what I've seen of your posts, would lead me to put any credence in any statement you might make.
Ever hear the old saying, "You plant potatoes, you get potatoes"?
Now you have.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. I got your message loud and clear.
There is NO concern for poor folk, and only the desire to bash us.
AND rather than coming to this forum to learn how you may help, you come to the poverty forum to bash.
Potatoes, indeed.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Thank you for understanding! I do appreciate it.
No, there isn't much difference with the poverty issue.
As far as the "faith-based" initiatives.... well, we need JUSTICE NOT CHARITY.
We need LOW-INCOME HOUSING, not a church-run shelter. That shouldn't be that hard for "progressives" to understand, should it?
Can you imagine saying the same things about, say.. the labor movement? Wouldn't that be something?
"Maybe it will enlighten some of Obama's campaign interns who seem to be posting here en masse lately."
Do you suppose they really think this amount of attack and vilification of the people they supposedly have so much in common with, will get them the votes they want?
Yes, I'm copying all of these ugly attacks, and showing them to other people, who are absolutely amazed, and feel like all of this should be reported to the Obama headquarters, because it doesn't reflect what they wish their spokespeople to be about. I think it's time to "enlighten" Obama himself about the prejudice and ugliness in his own campaign people.
" So we'll bookmark this thread and see where we are in a year. Should be interesting. "
Very good idea. Not that any of these people will EVER admit to having been wrong, let alone apologize. And THAT they share in common with the RW.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-29-08 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #41
48. You're very correct on this! JUSTICE NOT CHARITY!
We've had 30 years of dealing with poverty and homelessness through charity, and it's failed completely.
The immense suffering and death DEMAND a change of direction!!!!!!
Naturyl (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-30-08 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #48
53. Right, "charity" is the wrong answer. We need justice.
U.G. Krishnamurti said:
Charity is the filthiest invention of the human mind: first you steal what belongs to everyone; then you use the policeman and the atom bomb to protect it. You give charity to prevent the have-nots from rebelling against you. It also makes you feel less guilty. All do-gooders feel 'high' when they do good.
Pretty much describes Democrats and liberals, eh?
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-31-08 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. that's a great quotation! Thanks!
Can you imagine actually saying that to people who feel proud of their charity-giving?
Wow.. talk about going ballistic... they would burst an artery...
Hmmmm...
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In all of bobos posts has there ever once been any suggestion by it that they need to do even one little thing on its own behalf?
Doubt it.
btw....
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. No
Nothing you might assert here, given what I've seen of your posts, would lead me to put any credence in any statement you might make.
Ever hear the old saying, "You plant potatoes, you get potatoes"?
Now you have.
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. I got your message loud and clear.
There is NO concern for poor folk, and only the desire to bash us.
AND rather than coming to this forum to learn how you may help, you come to the poverty forum to bash.
Potatoes, indeed.
Thought after they slimed Vice President Quayle for spelling it that way they would show their vast wisdom and leave out the "e".
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Thought after they slimed Vice President Quayle for spelling it that way they would show their vast wisdom and leave out the "e".
Not exactly. Dan Quayle spelled "potato" (singular) with an "e" at the end. "Potatoes" (plural) does have an "es."
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Not exactly. Dan Quayle spelled "potato" (singular) with an "e" at the end. "Potatoes" (plural) does have an "es."
My point being that both spellings of the word are commonly used as is the improper pluralization of the word as "potato`s".
He was called stupid when the honest answer was that both spellings are considered proper,just would have thought the DUmmies would have avoided anything that would have alluded to that.
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Affordable housing right here!!
(http://www.familytentcamping.com/members/1406228/uploaded/headquarters_rectangular_tent.jpeg.jpg)
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Affordable housing right here!!
(http://www.familytentcamping.com/members/1406228/uploaded/headquarters_rectangular_tent.jpeg.jpg)
That has to be put together...too much work for bobbolink.
Stop trying to hate on her! :-)
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Not exactly. Dan Quayle spelled "potato" (singular) with an "e" at the end. "Potatoes" (plural) does have an "es."
Ever see the entire clip of that....that....mess? Dan spelled it correctly but then the teacher told him it had an "e" on the end and being a good student, he added it. Then all you ever saw on TV after the first showing was dumb Dan can't even spell "potatoe".
Stupid liberal teacher got a free pass and Danny boy caught hell...... Sheeeesh.
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Ever see the entire clip of that....that....mess? Dan spelled it correctly but then the teacher told him it had an "e" on the end and being a good student, he added it. Then all you ever saw on TV after the first showing was dumb Dan can't even spell "potatoe".
Stupid liberal teacher got a free pass and Danny boy caught hell...... Sheeeesh.
Dan Quayle mispells a word and it consumed the news 24/7. Obama associates with known terrorists, applauds comments made calling for the destruction of Israel, refuses to release any information about his past associations at college/law school, college/law school transcripts, thesis paper, IL bar association application, birth certificate -- and it's all kittens and rainbows in the press.
Mispelling potato clearly being the more disturbing of the two. :whatever:
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What do you expect from a guy who stands in front of a bunch of California millionaires and insults working class people as bitter clingers?
That should have been your first clue.
Oh yeah...and the fact he lives in Hyde Park with Ayers, Farrakhan and a bunch of other limousine lefties.
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bobbolink
Oh, and yes... I do live in my car.
Does that matter to you?
Tangerine LaBamba
No
That pretty much sums up liberalism. If "feels good" to them to say they care, but when coming face to face with a real person who experiencing it, it's easier to claim they're lying and shoo them away.
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. I got your message loud and clear.
There is NO concern for poor folk, and only the desire to have us bathe.
AND rather than coming to this forum to learn how you may help, you come to the poverty forum to bash.
Potatoes, indeed.
Sorry, I had to fix that one.
KC
PS bobbolink is homeless because it is psycho. All homeless people are psycho. :-)
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-28-08 02:40 PM
Original message
So much for poverty in Obama's big wrap-up speech.
Then "progressives" wonder why we poor folk don't have all the "hope" we're supposed to be expressing.
We're invisible.
Umm...not really. We may not be able to see you hiding in the garbage dumpster but we sure can smell you.
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We're invisible.
Actually, I think that's the problem that the City of Denver and the Democratshad with you; you weren't invisible enough.
Now go crawl off into an alleyway or something before you bring down Dear Leader's approval rating.
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-29-08 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #41
48. You're very correct on this! JUSTICE NOT CHARITY!
We've had 30 years of dealing with poverty and homelessness through charity, and it's failed completely.
The immense suffering and death DEMAND a change of direction!!!!!!
Weeeell now, so much for that showcase Democrat liberal "Great Society" shit, huh?
"You dropped a bomb on me, baby You dropped a bomb on me...."
(Not really relevant but I just heard that song on Internet radio I listen to)
(http://lpmpjogja.diknas.go.id/kc/b/bunker_buster/bunker-buster-intro.jpg)