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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 13, 2008, 04:07:28 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4391694
Oh my.
SHRED (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-05-08 11:26 PM
Original message
Any excuse will do
RW'ers are making up any and all excuses why Obama won, EXCEPT the blahblahblah.....
halo experiment (271 posts) Wed Nov-05-08 11:30 PM
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1. Agree
When they can't accept simple mathematics, they have lost any and all reasoning capabilities.
7 million more votes= must be stolen election!?!?11111
****ing ignorant.
I dunno; franksolich accepts simple mathematics, 52% being more than 48%.
So what's the big deal?
mike_c (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-05-08 11:39 PM
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2. perhaps you can explain to me just what Obama's "vision and ideas for America" are....
I've heard a LOT about "change you can believe in" and "change we need," but if you call that vision and ideas, I'm pretty disappointed. That's a slogan, not a vision.
I think people elected Obama because he's intelligent and inspires confidence, without having to get too specific, and because they were absolutely fed up with the messes republicans have made-- and left for others to clean up.
I'd like to agree with you, but I still don't have much of a clue what Obama intends beyond the slogans.
halo experiment (271 posts) Wed Nov-05-08 11:47 PM
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3. respectfully I must disagree
If you read his speeches, his website, his policy statements, or those of his surrogates you would know blahblahblah.....
mike_c (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-06-08 12:00 AM
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4. ok-- I've heard most of those things...
...but just haven't had any clear sense of them except as talking points. I hope they come to pass-- although I'm not at all happy with the notion of a gradual withdrawal from Iraq-- that's just continuing the war crime WAY beyond its expiration date-- and I'm seriously disappointed by the outlines of Obama's health care reform statements, but again, we haven't really seen the specifics, so it's hard to say.
Anyway, I'm glad you (and apparently others) have a better sense of what Obama intends than I do. I really feel like I don't have a clear idea of what he hopes to accomplish.
Well, damn, the mike_c primitive better get with the program, and get an idea.
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-05-08 11:39 PM
Response to Original message
2. perhaps you can explain to me just what Obama's "vision and ideas for America" are....
I've heard a LOT about "change you can believe in" and "change we need," but if you call that vision and ideas, I'm pretty disappointed. That's a slogan, not a vision.
I think people elected Obama because he's intelligent and inspires confidence, without having to get too specific, and because they were absolutely fed up with the messes republicans have made-- and left for others to clean up.
I'd like to agree with you, but I still don't have much of a clue what Obama intends beyond the slogans.
Blind Squirrel award for the day.
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Mike C makes Obama look like flaming right winger. :mental:
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Mike_c questions the Almighty O ?....not wise....not wise at all.
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I want to see the monkey poo that flies when they realize that Obama can't get legislation he wants even with a democratic congress. He is simply going to alienate them. They may accept Rahm's bullying as a fellow congress rat, but they won't like it from the administration.
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At first they'll blame congress... then Obama.
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At first they'll blame congress... then Obama.
They better start blaming him now! The only reason the Stock Market has tanked is because of this fool and what they are afraid he's going to do to their bottom line!
Idiots!!!!
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I can't wait until they want to impeach the Big Zero. :-)
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They better start blaming him now! The only reason the Stock Market has tanked is because of this fool and what they are afraid he's going to do to their bottom line!
Idiots!!!!
I told one of my neighbors (who is a government worker, shocker where I live.) that the stock market went down after the election because of who was elected. She didn't care being a solid Obambi supporter. Then I explained what that meant to government receipts and her retirement. I think the sanity hit target, not that it will help much.
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I never would have imagined that mike_c was a PUMA.
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I never would have imagined that mike_c was a PUMA.
Actually, no.
The mike_c primitive is way to the left of the Big Zero, which is no PUMA.
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Mike C is a mole. :bolt: