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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 13, 2008, 06:54:46 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4451628#4451934
Oh my.
The gay primitives are trying that nonsense again, that they've had it "just as bad" as Jews being murdered by the National Socialists, and blacks being suppressed in America.
Damn, these people are more than just stupid.
Zhade (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 02:15 AM
Original message
THE STRUGGLE FOR EQUAL RIGHTS FOR GLBT PEOPLE IS EXACTLY LIKE THE CIVIL RIGHTS STRUGGLE.
We were born this way.
We didn't choose who we are.
We suffer injustices every day for something we can't control, and we are being held back by the fear of Americans who will inevitably learn that - just like African-Americans, women and every other subjugated group - we deserve our full equal rights.
What's more, we will never back down, no matter how much some wish we'd just accept separate but equal. Does anyone really think we will settle? It's ludicrous to expect that, and I advise anyone hoping otherwise to wake up and smell their latent bigotry.
WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY. WE ARE NOT SETTLING. AND WE ARE NOT DEFEATED.
You can help us, or you can get trampled as we make our way to the front of the bus.
It's a big bonfire, so only the accurate comments, as the lies and hysteria aren't worth copying-and-pasting:
geomon666 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 02:33 AM
Response to Original message
5. It's not like the civil rights movement.
geomon666 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 04:46 AM
Response to Reply #8
29. I'll tell you what's offensive.
Offensive is people coming on here and comparing themselves and their situation to what black people endured since the end of the Civil War until the end of the Civil Rights Movement of the 60's. That is what is offensive.
I understand that gays have been persecuted against for a long time now and still are and right now you're trying to gather some more support for you for your fight for equal rights in which I would gladly give if I could but yeah, it ain't the same thing at all. Not even close. I mean what's next, are you going to compare yourself to holocaust survivors?
geomon666 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 05:06 AM
Response to Reply #37
40. Yeah, I knew that.
Gays were killed and so were a lot of straight people. By the millions. But by all means, keep making wild claims, drive the wedge further. Or you could bide your time, collect your resources and come out in force, united, and win.
And I'm sure there were some gay survivors of the holocaust.
geomon666 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 05:21 AM
Response to Reply #59
68. I've supported equals rights all of my life.
And just because your cause is a civil rights issue, doesn't mean you get to claim the oppression of blacks as your own history. You just drive more people away, hurting your own cause.
geomon666 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 05:28 AM
Response to Reply #73
82. Yes I know that but that's not what the OP was saying.
He was directly comparing the ban on gay marriage to that of black people being publicly killed in the streets in the 60's because they looked at a white man or woman the wrong way or sat where they weren't supposed to, etc.
petgoat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 05:29 AM
Response to Reply #74
83. Baloney. Gays could pass a lot easier than blacks could.
geomon666 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 05:35 AM
Response to Reply #89
96. I am not dismissing it. I've already said that gays have horribly oppressed.
Not just in this country but all over the world. But you cannot compare the issue of gay marriage to that of the black civil rights movement and be taken seriously. You just can't, in my opinion.
petgoat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 05:44 AM
Response to Reply #103
108. Where are the gay lynchings and assassinations?
petgoat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 05:57 AM
Response to Reply #112
122. I'll add that the gays' struggle is nothing like the struggle the anti-war movement and left went through, or the unions went through in the 1930s.
petgoat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 05:31 AM
Response to Reply #76
86. Where are the gay lynchings? Where's the gay Medgar Evers?
Where's you gay Malcom X?
Stop your posing right now!
cali (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 04:10 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. well, just the history of what the different groups were/are fighting for.
Gays and lesbians weren't sytematically denied the vote, for one important difference. Slavery and its legacy are also a difference. I'm not saying that the GLBT struggle is less important, just that there are differences. GLBT people have historically had to hide their identities. African-Americans mostly couldn't.
petgoat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 04:56 AM
Response to Reply #19
34. Aye, that's the big diff.
The joke went
Why is it worse to be be gay than black?
Because if you're black you don't have to tell your parents.
But that brings up another important issue. Gays' issues can be covered by simple privacy. They don't have to declare themselves, their private acts are covered by bedroom privacy laws. But blacks can not deny they're black. Big diff.
petgoat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 04:22 AM
Response to Original message
21. Give me a ****in break. You are offered domestic partnerships, and you demand marriage.
You want legislated acceptance when you've already got tolerance.
Have you ever considered that you might be a political liability?
Did you ever consider that Newsome's "courage" might have cost Kerry 2004? Do you care?
Jesus Christ! Did it ever occur to you that when you're oppressed you're Michaelangelo and Aaron Copland and Leonard Bernstein and Truman Capote and Andy Warhol and Allan Ginsberg and James Dean?
And when you're not oppressed you're a bunch of accountants and sandwich-makers? Do we really need more cuddly accountants?
petgoat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 04:41 AM
Response to Reply #24
25. Nothing homophobic about what I said. Simple reality.
I always say "Gay men are God's gift to straight men, 'cause for every gay man there's another gay man, and that means TWO extra women sitting at home
Saturday night.
Frisco and DC are a straight man's paradise.
There's much more, but I'll stop at this:
petgoat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 05:02 AM
Response to Reply #36
38. My dick isn't little, I have no desire to get it sucked in Frisco, and you make no sense.
I have a friend who tells me there's a club in San Francisco where you can stick your dick through a hole and fifty people will come and suck on it, and though he likes that kind of stuff, that's not my idea of a good time.
After which the gaieties descend into name-calling and throw hissy-fits.
There's some real Hate going on there, of gays who Hate proportionality and reason.
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After which the gaieties descend into name-calling and throw hissy-fits.
"Gaieties" = Being oppressed by the Gay Mafia. :-)
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"Gaieties" = Being oppressed by the Gay Mafia. :-)
Actually, some years ago, I used to refer to gays as "the morose," because that's a pretty good description of gays in real life; just really negative glum hissy people.
But I had to give up referring to gays as the morose, because nobody got it.
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I wish that just one time someone from the Rainbow Flag brigade would point out to me exactly which Constitutional right they are being denied.
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I wish that just one time someone from the Rainbow Flag brigade would point out to me exactly which Constitutional right they are being denied.
I was hoping to find that answer while watching the big bonfire, but alas no; the gay primitives there were too preoccupied lashing out in anger and Hate against primitives who had very good reasons to disagree with them, and so the gay primitives couldn't get around to describing what rights you and I have, and they don't.
The gay primitives are essentially name-calling at that bonfire, not citing facts.
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The gay primitives are essentially name-calling at that bonfire, not citing facts.
After reading about their bigoted hate filled rants I'm going to start calling them what the WSJ has labelled them as...the Gay KK
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4451628#4451934
Oh my.
The gay primitives are trying that nonsense again, that they've had it "just as bad" as Jews being murdered by the National Socialists, and blacks being suppressed in America.
Damn, these people are more than just stupid.
It's a big bonfire, so only the accurate comments, as the lies and hysteria aren't worth copying-and-pasting:
There's much more, but I'll stop at this:
After which the gaieties descend into name-calling and throw hissy-fits.
There's some real Hate going on there, of gays who Hate proportionality and reason.
Petgoat is no more! :-) Pity! I think he disrupted well! :-)
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I wish they spent as much effort being a productive member of society as these folks do looking for special considerations to be allowed to live outside productive society.
That is all it is....DUmmy/libs wishing to leech through life based on whatever cause they can dream up.
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 04:22 AM
Response to Original message
21. Give me a ****in break. You are offered domestic partnerships, and you demand marriage.
You want legislated acceptance when you've already got tolerance.
Have you ever considered that you might be a political liability?
Did you ever consider that Newsome's "courage" might have cost Kerry 2004? Do you care?
Jesus Christ! Did it ever occur to you that when you're oppressed you're Michaelangelo and Aaron Copland and Leonard Bernstein and Truman Capote and Andy Warhol and Allan Ginsberg and James Dean?
And when you're not oppressed you're a bunch of accountants and sandwich-makers? Do we really need more cuddly accountants?
:beer:
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Petgoat got a little parting shot before going to his final rest! :lmao:
petgoat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-13-08 05:49 AM
Original message
Hey Guys. the Fur is Flying! Stuff needs to sort out. No harm meant. Love ya! nt
:rotf:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x91480
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Petgoat got a little parting shot before going to his final rest! :lmao: :rotf:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x91480
Petgoat got the stone?
What will the insane troofers over there do now?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cry me a river. The gays all want to claim they didn't choose to be that way BUT if you pose the question to them;
"If they came out with a drug that would make you NOT gay .... would you take it?"
They all answer "No".
If you don't want a cure for your 'difference' that is fine but don't tell me you wouldn't be that way if you could help it in the same breath.
KC
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Actually, some years ago, I used to refer to gays as "the morose," because that's a pretty good description of gays in real life; just really negative glum hissy people.
But I had to give up referring to gays as the morose, because nobody got it.
Well, I might not have picked up on the word "morose" but I will say, you're correct in using it.
Since way back in the mid '70's I would spend a week or two in the Florida Keys, Key West more or less. I watched the gay crowd grow and then die off in the late 80's as AIDS took'em. The saddest thing in the world is an old queer. They've lost their youth, looks and sexual desireability. And there they sat, no family, no close relationship, wanted by no one, nothing, just a sad look on their faces. At times, I actually felt sorry for them. .....but not for long. Even if you're straight, a lifetime of just meaningless sex with multiple partners will do the same thing to you.
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Well, I might not have picked up on the word "morose" but I will say, you're correct in using it.
Since way back in the mid '70's I would spend a week or two in the Florida Keys, Key West more or less. I watched the gay crowd grow and then die off in the late 80's as AIDS took'em. The saddest thing in the world is an old queer. They've lost their youth, looks and sexual desireability. And there they sat, no family, no close relationship, wanted by no one, nothing, just a sad look on their faces. At times, I actually felt sorry for them. .....but not for long. Even if you're straight, a lifetime of just meaningless sex with multiple partners will do the same thing to you.
Seriously, sir, have you ever met a happy, contented gay?
They're always sullen, morose, saturnine, glum.
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Seriously, sir, have you ever met a happy, contented gay?
They're always sullen, morose, saturnine, glum.
They're only happy when in close pursuit of their next sexual encounter. .....but then I might just be confusing that with the thrill of the hunt.
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They need to just admit that their whole "stuggle" isn't about their "rights," it's about their desire to flaunt their perverted sexuality. At least then they'd be honest about their intentions.
All the twinkies is one reason I got fed up with NU. You could have a thread on Sri Lanka vs. India playing cricket over there and eventually the fags would start posting about how they wanted to bung hole each other.
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lolol. The adbot on Petgoat's buh bye thread is for pizza
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
As in "tombstone," I guess.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Seriously, sir, have you ever met a happy, contented gay?
They're always sullen, morose, saturnine, glum.
Well, the flamboyant ones seem more bi-polar, or as it used to be called, manic-depressive (the old term I still find to be far more descriptive of the emotional roller coaster such types display). The non-flamboyant ones do seem to just be depressed all the time.
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Well, the flamboyant ones seem more bi-polar, or as it used to be called, manic-depressive (the old term I still find to be far more descriptive of the emotional roller coaster such types display). The non-flamboyant ones do seem to just be depressed all the time.
Well, I might not have picked up on the word "morose" but I will say, you're correct in using it.
Since way back in the mid '70's I would spend a week or two in the Florida Keys, Key West more or less. I watched the gay crowd grow and then die off in the late 80's as AIDS took'em. The saddest thing in the world is an old queer. They've lost their youth, looks and sexual desireability. And there they sat, no family, no close relationship, wanted by no one, nothing, just a sad look on their faces. At times, I actually felt sorry for them. .....but not for long. Even if you're straight, a lifetime of just meaningless sex with multiple partners will do the same thing to you.
Many of the friends I had when I lived in Sacramento had gay "friends". This seemed to be the "thing" to do in the 80's.
Because of this I met and, in some small way, got to know these gay people.
Essentially everything mentioned above is true. They are obsessed with flaunting their "gayness", and have an over-active sex drive (public displays seem the norm). They held "young and beautiful" (see man/boy garbage) up as the standard and or epitomy of life. They dropped partners constantly and were always "trolling" for more. The lifestyle is very shallow.
There is nothing sadder than old gays, that are bitter, bitter, bitter, and have no life. It really is a "dead end" in more ways than one.
I almost wonder if the drive for gay marriage is a last desparate gasp at trying to find the happiness in life that they see with straights but fail at comprehending as to why.
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They're only happy when in close pursuit of their next sexual encounter. .....but then I might just be confusing that with the thrill of the hunt.
I have known a few gay men with life partners. The difference between them and the whiners we read everyday in the news is, they never ever called attention to themselves. They were always perfectly content with their lives. Oh, and the thought of children never came up at all!