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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 12, 2008, 02:37:03 PM
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Oh my.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-12-08 02:09 AM
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I dunno how to say this.
I just gotta get this off my chest. just need someone out there to listen and maybe help explain this to me.
Some background....
My ex was a gay guy. His parents were fine with gay issues,his sister is a lesbian with a kid and long term partner,so parents were not the issue here.
Before he met me he was interested in some girl but refused to date her because he thought he was gay.Than he met me,said he was Bi.
He wastes ten years of my life pretending he's bi.Leading me on that he cares and all.He even marries the most butch masculine female(at that time) that is humanly possible without surgery.(it was before my transition.)Why?
So I ask you,is it possible that he was so callous ignorant and self absorbed he had no clue how bad he was hurting me by making passes at my straight friends until all I had for support was him,did he ever consider his emotional coldness was abusive,or was he in such ****ing denial TO HIMSELF ,telling himself that being gay was a choice,that to prove it to HIMSELF,I had to be hurt, lose my mom(she moved because she thought we were staying together) lose my own place in a good location, lose my insurance, I lost alot of my things some of the most precious things as he got involved and obsessed about religion.
I did stuff with him I normally would find distasteful,at his suggestion to try to work on the relationship,yet all I put in very little was returned yet he's say he loved me all the time,but acting like he did was not there.I was totally confused
by his mixed messages and coldness,and such.It wasn't like that in the beginning,he was a totally different person the first years we were together.
So does anyone think it was wrong I had to go through all that just so he could prove to himself being gay is not a choice? Go through it AFTER he had admitted to himself he was gay before,AFTER he had been out of the closet before,AFTER he had gay relationships before he met me..? WTF?
I got wounded, he found an orientation he always had and had admitted to himself he had even come out before too.So what kind of shit was this twisted asshole pulling here? I think he was an abusive narcissistic asshole.And he hurt me.
Right now I am really depressed,I feel like no one understands just how painful all this is after it's all done I still hurt..I am just beginning to feel what I have pushed down inside for years to cope.And I am pissed, I feel cheated,betrayed, you name it. I feel like I will because of where I live and the inability to go anywhere these circumstances that never would have occurred had he been HONEST WITH HIMSELF .
Does he hate women? does he hate trans-men? WTF? He was always so considerate to his mom and family but when I needed help he was not there but he took help from me and my mom.He is such a mommy's boy it was gross.Still,why did it take him TEN years of tearing my heart out and spitting on it,just to be honest with HIMSELF?
Why didn't he tell me I would have dropped him and moved on.He strung me along. He wasn't a stupid guy. I don't get it.And why did I have to lose so much in the process? Do gay men like him,who try to lie to themselves ever stop to think that their own denial harms others they get involved with? Or is the person betrayed just supposed to handle it and be OK after losing so much in a sham relationship?
Is it possible an abusive asshole could use being gay as an excuse to be abusive to women/butch/trans-guys he thinks are not as worthy as males in his twisted little mind? I don't know.
In this town GBLT people are closeted for the most part there is no place to socialize, not any place I could get to out here on the shitty half assed "bus" system they have out here that shuts down at 5 pm. I have nowhere to go,no one to help me take the edge off this stabbing regret ,anger and sadness.I am alone like I have been for most my life and I can't stand the emotional isolation much longer.
I think that I will die alone.
I hate my life now in this stupid town,I really do. I hate him too.I wish I had never met him. But I can't undo that. Now I am stuck.
Anyone who is defensive,just realize I am talking about MY experiences ok?
Oh my again. It's all very sad.
There's a few primitives at the bonfire offering a smorgasbord of suggestions.
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Her ex-gay-bi-boyfriend is the very example of what a Liberal is. WHy should she be pissed off at him doing the very thing that 99.9% of them (liberals) do. They do whatever feels good to them in the moment and screw anyone who gets hurt along the way. It's all ME ME ME which is exactly what UGP is all about as well. I say she got exactly what she gives out. Sucks to be on the receiving end of a liberal, doesn't it UGP.
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Her ex-gay-bi-boyfriend is the very example of what a Liberal is. WHy should she be pissed off at him doing the very thing that 99.9% of them do. They do whatever feels good to them in the moment and screw anyone who gets hurt along the way. It's all ME ME ME which is exactly what UGP is all about as well. I say she got exactly what she gives out. Sucks to be on the receiving end of a liberal, doesn't it UGP.
Damn, you're good, madam.
That's exactly it, but you said it better than I could.
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Can't say as I'm shocked she got screwed over.
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This is why God made it where cats can't talk.
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WHy should she be pissed off at him doing the very thing that 99.9% of them (liberals) do.
Well, first off, we're not exactly convinced it's a "she". At least, I know I'm not. Looks more like a mutant from some kind of movie about nuclear contamination.
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Well, first off, we're not exactly convinced it's a "she". At least, I know I'm not. Looks more like a mutant from some kind of movie about nuclear contamination.
I thought she was a female who thought she was a male cat?!?
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Her ex-gay-bi-boyfriend is the very example of what a Liberal is. WHy should she be pissed off at him doing the very thing that 99.9% of them (liberals) do. They do whatever feels good to them in the moment and screw anyone who gets hurt along the way. It's all ME ME ME which is exactly what UGP is all about as well. I say she got exactly what she gives out. Sucks to be on the receiving end of a liberal, doesn't it UGP.
I, too, have to let you say it for me. Nice double entendre, by the way! :-)
H5.
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I believe that Dr. Freud would comment that she sought out someone like her dear old dad. She has described her dad as abusive and cold.
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I believe that Dr. Freud would comment that she sought out someone like her dear old dad. She has described her dad as abusive and cold.
That's it.
But actually, most primitives have, or had, "dear old dad" problems.
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subway cat has to get something off her chest
..... I can't remember if *that* part of the surgery actually went ahead or not .....
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Ok. I'll admit it...
When UP said s/he had to get something off his/her chest, I thought s/he finally had that breast reduction surgery.
:uhsure:
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I can't remember how long I've been hanging out with you guys counting the time here and at our old home, BUT if sometime before then someone would have come up to me and told me some of the problems, thoughts, and such that are posted at DU I would have called them insane.
Honestly, how many places other than DU can you find a story coming from a woman that thinks she's a man that thinks he's cat that begins with "My ex was a gay guy..."?
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Her ex-gay-bi-boyfriend is the very example of what a Liberal is. WHy should she be pissed off at him doing the very thing that 99.9% of them (liberals) do. They do whatever feels good to them in the moment and screw anyone who gets hurt along the way. It's all ME ME ME which is exactly what UGP is all about as well. I say she got exactly what she gives out. Sucks to be on the receiving end of a liberal, doesn't it UGP.
H5, also, BEG.
Ya know, the spot where UGP is in its' life is exactly where liberalism gets some of its' true adherants. Married liberals, and especially liberals with children, are not "true" liberals, as "true" liberals don't want to deplete Mother Gaia's resources here on Earth by "reproducing," or having any possibility of reproducing (i.e., engaging in sex with a committed partner) and said "false" liberals have reproduced.
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OMG!!! I am SO confused. What is UGP? Or does it change from week to week? What did she or he begin life as? I can't keep him/her straight.
Oh no, did I just say I can't keep him or her straight? Ooooops. My bad. Bwahahahahahahaha!
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Another liberal revelation.
It took UGP TEN YEARS to figure out this guy (?) was just using her.
Thats TEN years of doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.
UGP: Defining insanity on a daily basis at DU.
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I did stuff with him I normally would find distasteful,
With it that could mean something as simple as being nice and acting sane.
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I'm confused...I thought electing Obama would instantly right all that was wrong in the world. Why doesn't the Messiah heal her or it?
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I'm confused...I thought electing Obama would instantly right all that was wrong in the world. Why doesn't the Messiah heal her or it?
You got me.
I thought exactly the same thing, that the Big Zero was going to perform instant miracles, but so far not a damned thing has happened.
But I suspect there's some "healing" in the works for the subway cat; remember that a couple of months ago, Shelly Obama said people are "going to have to work" in the Obamareich.
I doubt however the message has gotten to the subway cat yet.
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Ok. I'll admit it...
When UP said s/he had to get something off his/her chest, I thought s/he finally had that breast reduction surgery.
:uhsure:
I think she/he/it/cat has already had that done. I think I remember reading a post about it.
I found this exchange funny:
closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Wed Nov-12-08 04:28 AM
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4. Personally, I'm curious why you stuck with him all that time?
What were you getting out of the relationship - good sex? Did he make you laugh? If you look closely at dysfunctional relationships, both parties are always getting something out of it. I've been there, believe me. In my case, the sex was so satisfying that I stayed with him despite the nasty fighting we'd engage in. Not involved with him anymore, but I do miss the sex, lol.
undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Wed Nov-12-08 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. No,sex was not the reason.
The reason I think was intellectually he could keep up with me.
In my life I haven't met many people who can do that.
LOL! So he was as nutty as she/he/it/cat is! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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You got me.
I thought exactly the same thing, that the Big Zero was going to perform instant miracles, but so far not a damned thing has happened.
But I suspect there's some "healing" in the works for the subway cat; remember that a couple of months ago, Shelly Obama said people are "going to have to work" in the Obamareich.
I doubt however the message has gotten to the subway cat yet.
Oh yeah, arbeit macht frei, I forgot. Or maybe arbeit heilt I'm not sure, I only took a little German.
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Another liberal revelation.
It took UGP TEN YEARS to figure out this guy (?) was just using her.
Thats TEN years of doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.
UGP: Defining insanity on a daily basis at DU.
The thought I can't get out of my "mind's eye" is, these two were "humpin"!!!!!!!!!!! :bwah:
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I'm confused...I thought electing Obama would instantly right all that was wrong in the world. Why doesn't the Messiah heal her or it?
The only miracle that is going to come from The Anointed One will be his ability to hide his inability to do miracles at all from his own followers.
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I am still trying to ascertain what gender the writer is, but aside from that -- this guy did nothing to her/him, she/he played the victim for him nicely.
People don't take advantage of you unless you let them.
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My ex was a gay guy. His parents were fine with gay issues,his sister is a lesbian with a kid and long term partner,so parents were not the issue here.
This has got to be the most bizarre couple of sentences I have ever seen on skins island! :lmao:
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It(UGP) really goes off on some poor DUmmies just tryin to help.... :rotf: :rotf:
undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Nov-12-08 10:25 PM
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14. Umm it isn't what you said either.
<What you gave up and lost is unfortunate, but dwelling on it and fuming over it won't bring it back or make things better. >
I guess you missed the part in my OP about how I push emotions down to cope,and so they come back years later PSTD can do that to you.
It isn't about"dwelling and fuming" mr.cognitive behavioral therapist wannabe, it's about how my mind processes things,it does it differently because of PSTD .PSTD is a psychiatric injury.
And yes FUMING does help ME. Might not work for you but that's not my problem.
<The simple truth is that human relationships don't come with lifetime warranties. People change.>
Yeah,so? I know that.That obviousness is not relevant here at all because it's well,duh'oh.
<You provided your mate of ten years with a certain emotional security that he no longer needs from you.>
Than tell me why ,he called me up to help him with his "issues",and I told him several times I could no longer help him?
Why did he drag his ass to change his address for?
Why did he,upon getting arrested for being drunk, did he call MY mother,in virginia,at 3 am, instead of calling his own mom? He bugged me for a YEAR to 'help him' with his 'issues' of his after I made him go away.But I kept saying I could no longer help him.
What you don't get is *I* kicked him out of MY house.He was abusing prescription drugs,and being a real asshole, so I said enough is enough.I had to tell him NO,No more help from me for his issues and tell him to seek help elsewhere.
I was the one that no longer needed him.And I still don't,but because my brain processes differently.. things that happened two years ago emotionally surface later and are as bad as if it was occurring now.
<His being gay or bi and you being trans are irrelevant particulars.>
Well I don't think it was irrelevant.I bet you'd like to think that, but it was VERY relevant.
<It doesn't matter if he hates women or transmen or himself. It doesn't matter that he's a confused and narcissistic momma's boy. You two could as easily have been traditional hetero mainstream Ozzie & Harriet types and still have found yourself where you are today. No one's immune to a fickle heart.>
Fickle heart? WTF? I don't know whether you are being an asshole or suffering from a "fickle heart" of your own here.
ALL those things I listed are relevant.I dunno what planet you are on but it caused me PAIN.
<I hope you soon find your inner peace.>
I haven't known inner peace.I have no clue WTF **** inner peace is supposed to be,same thing with happiness,they are loaded like a hallmark card, but actually very empty, meaningless words. My life has been one shit pile after another, life is ****ing sick .The only peace I will get I think, is via death.It's how this ****ed up world is and just because I am here does not require me to like it,or to tolerate bad people in my way..He was a BAD person to ME.
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madmadmad Donating Member (127 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Nov-12-08 10:21 PM
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13. i feel for your pain
he used you, and used you badly. i cannot and will not make excuses for him- he hurt you, and your anger and hurt are completely understandable.
but this is part of a bigger problem- society vilifies the gays. there is nothing lower in many people's opinions. witness the recent stripping away of a previously given right. can you think of another group who was granted a right, only to have it voted away? so understandably many, many gay people don't wish to be gay- they HATE themselves for it, and will do anything to not be what they really are- ANYTHING, including callously using other people in their quest to deny the reality of their true selves.
so if society would embrace gays, and treat us as valued, equal members of our country, then people like your ex wouldn't have to work to deny who they are, and destroy other people's lives as a consequence. your ex probably still would have been an asshole, but at least it would have been to another dude, not you.
i wish you peace.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Nov-12-08 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. sigh...
<he used you, and used you badly. i cannot and will not make excuses for him- he hurt you, and your anger and hurt are completely understandable.>
Thank you.
<but this is part of a bigger problem- society vilifies the gays.>
I have been vilified myself.I am a trans-man.OK know about the vilification thing. I know it well,I got it for being transgender (very,very butch),being a "freak",having PSTD,being openly pagan(christian assholes chased me with knives)and I have been vilified even on DU and in this group for being furry.I have been vilified by the GBLT community because I bring up certain things they are not ready to deal with.Some in the gay community reject us trans people,the gays have their own bigotries they deny too.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE6DC...
pardon me if I am not just brimming with pity for him right now.
Look, I know society at large is chock full of scared,stupid bigoted people.Hets can be vile.So can gays. I also know any gay person taking someones heart and stomps it,lies,than refuses to acknowledge the PAIN they caused by the lying,the betrayal,the coldness,abuse whatever else, then, on top of all that,expecting the hurt person to feel like all that shit they suffered was justified because they are gay,well that lump it mentality that some gays have regarding this stuff could be creating a feedback loop in some people's minds concerning some of that vilifying that'society' does to gays and trans-people.
I dunno how many broken hearts because someone admits they are gay or whatever are out there at any given time but if they are told by the gay community to get over it and their pain is minimized because 'gays get vilified by society ,don't you think that way of discounting them just makes it worse for all involved? People who come OUT of DENIAL need to also come out of denial concerning the damage their dishonesty does to people that cared as well.
He has access to gay friendly places to go without vilification.There is a strong gay community in the city.
I am cut off from that community by transportation issues.His family is very accepting, his sister is a lesbian. His mom was more accepting than MY mom was of my coming out,and out,and out...
I think he has no EXCUSES for what he did.And just because he's gay and gays get shit from society, so do trans-genders, and none of what society does, justifies what he did to me.He came out before he even knew me. When he began to date me he said how unhappy he was in the gay community they rejected him,his body wasn't perfect,he felt like the gays were superficial and backbiting.
But trying to tell himself lies wouldn't matter if it was just HIM involved in it. No I was involved too.I got hurt and I am pissed. And I am every bit a guy,as any other guy is,sans the dick ,because phalloplasty surgery is insane expensive, the dick does not function like a dick really, it looks a little strange,and it is a very risky operation.So I know it isn't in my future any time soon. Think of how that shit he pulled felt to me? It hurt me double time BECAUSE I am transgender.It's like my masculinity was being belittled,negated,made insignificant because I lacked the ability to afford the surgery,and the surgical results are lame,without the plumbing I am not a "real" guy. Do you have a clue how much that hurt me? Do you know how much frustration and pain that stupid physical wall of not having a penis but still being a guy in every other respect has caused me? If I was to list them I would be here all night.
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.....it's about how my mind processes things,it does it differently.....
Ain't that the truth.
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Oh my.
And I am every bit a guy,as any other guy is,sans the dick ,because phalloplasty surgery is insane expensive, the dick does not function like a dick really, it looks a little strange,and it is a very risky operation.So I know it isn't in my future any time soon.
Apparently I was right, circa two years ago.
Since the subway cat is on public assistance, she probably had to go through some sort of exhaustive psychiatric review to determine whether or not a sex-change operation would be of value to her and the taxpayers.
And she flunked.
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Seriously, how can one person have so many problems. Any one of her "issues" is enough for one person. How does someone get that screwed up? What could have happened to him/her in his/her life to screw them up that much? There are so many other people who have gone through much worse but came out of it relatively unscathed. What makes two people go through something very similar but end up with totally different results? One turns into a perpetual victim while the other comes out a stronger better person.
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Seriously, how can one person have so many problems. Any one of her "issues" is enough for one person. How does someone get that screwed up? What could have happened to him/her in his/her life to screw them up that much? There are so many other people who have gone through much worse but came out of it relatively unscathed. What makes two people go through something very similar but end up with totally different results? One turns into a perpetual victim while the other comes out a stronger better person.
Coz she dosen't really want "help" she wants peeps to allow her to wallow in her "victimhood"...And the vast majority of all her "problems" are self inflicted....I understand mental problems, but one has to want to "get better"
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For someone that is so concerned about tolerance, she is sure hung up on gender stereotypes. Doesn't she see how backwards it is to claim that men are somehow defined by apearance? The only thing that defines me as a man IS my plumbing, and my DNA. If I so chose, I could dress in pink, be house-husband who cooks and cleans, or has a traditionally 'female' occupation. There is no shame in that. Yet UG wants to put al men in some kind of stereotype-driven box. How horribly intolerant.
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Coz she dosen't really want "help" she wants peeps to allow her to wallow in her "victimhood"...And the vast majority of all her "problems" are self inflicted....I understand mental problems, but one has to want to "get better"
Exactly. He/she/it/cat wants to be the perpetual victim. Doesn't he/she/it/cat live in a house her mother gave him/her/it/cat?
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Doesn't he/she/it/cat live in a house her mother gave him/her/it/cat?
Yeah, she lives in a house her ancient mother gave her.
In an exclusive gated neighborhood in an affluent suburb of Baltimore.
By the way, the subway cat has a sister, married, but all indications are that the sister is utterly normal, although somewhat overweight.
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I read that title and assumed it meant something other than her breasts.
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Ain't that the truth.
This person, or whatever they are, is really just too miserable to live. Or maybe not. It seems to thrive on misery. It seems to validate its existence by all its melodrama. I think it wouldn't be happy if everything it ever wished for came to pass, it doesn't know who or what it is, just for starters. It can't stand the light, it seeks the cold darkness.
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This person, or whatever they are, is really just too miserable to live. Or maybe not. It seems to thrive on misery. It seems to validate its existence by all its melodrama. I think it wouldn't be happy if everything it ever wished for came to pass, it doesn't know who or what it is, just for starters. It can't stand the light, it seeks the cold darkness.
You got that right, madam.
I think it's cruel of my fellow alum Skins to not mausoleum the subway cat; it's obvious she's nuts, and so shouldn't be allowed to post anywhere.
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I read that title and assumed it meant something other than her breasts.
Glad I wasn't the only one.
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Glad I wasn't the only one.
You know, I wasn't even aware of a possible double entendre, when I typed the title; I had just borrowed the phrase from the subway cat without thinking about it.
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Seriously, how can one person have so many problems. Any one of her "issues" is enough for one person. How does someone get that screwed up? What could have happened to him/her in his/her life to screw them up that much? There are so many other people who have gone through much worse but came out of it relatively unscathed. What makes two people go through something very similar but end up with totally different results? One turns into a perpetual victim while the other comes out a stronger better person.
I thnk part of that relies a lot on enabling, BEG. It sounds like her mother in particular has supported her in one way or the other. When you get your ass booted out on the pavement, as cold as that may be, you realize very quickly you have to do something--it's sink or swim. I don't think UGP has ever been in that position and that's putting her mental illness aside. I'm certain she's mentally ill, but I also think it's probably exacerbated by her being a big spoiled brat.
Some people at least do without the mental illness or the spoiling. Many times, both. Those people will probably go on to fight to make a good life for themselves and don't become perpetual victims.
It's never occured to UGP that she could walk away from all that, despite the mutilating she's done to herself and her investment in being a victim and actually CREATE or at least find opportunity to find the happiness that is so elusive to her. She doesn't want to find it though--when you don't want to find it, you constantly sabotage yourself into a self-fulfilling prophesy of misery. Sadly, her misery is who she is. What a lonely existence that is.
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Coz she dosen't really want "help" she wants peeps to allow her to wallow in her "victimhood"...And the vast majority of all her "problems" are self inflicted....I understand mental problems, but one has to want to "get better"
Typical STINKIN' LIBERAL!!!
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..... I can't remember if *that* part of the surgery actually went ahead or not .....
I'm glad to see that someone else has as warped a point of view as I do. Figures it'd be the Aussie.
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I'm glad to see that someone else has as warped a point of view as I do. Figures it'd be the Aussie.
:-)
Add me to that list, DAT.
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I haven't known inner peace.I have no clue WTF **** inner peace is supposed to be,same thing with happiness,they are loaded like a hallmark card, but actually very empty, meaningless words. My life has been one shit pile after another, life is ****ing sick .The only peace I will get I think, is via death.It's how this ****ed up world is and just because I am here does not require me to like it,or to tolerate bad people in my way..He was a BAD person to ME.
The poor little kitty needs to get connected to the Internets and find the Wikipedia, it has more answers than Barak the Messiah:
Inner peace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_peace) (or peace of mind) refers to a state of being mentally and spiritually at peace, with enough knowledge and understanding to keep oneself strong in the face of discord or stress. Being "at peace" is considered by many to be healthy (homeostasis) and the opposite of being stressed or anxious. Peace of mind is generally associated with bliss and happiness.
Peace of mind, serenity, and calmness are descriptions of a disposition free from the effects of stress. In some cultures, inner peace is considered a state of consciousness or enlightenment that may be cultivated by various forms of training, such as prayer, meditation, T'ai Chi Ch'uan or yoga, for example. Many spiritual practices refer to this peace as an experience of knowing oneself. Finding inner peace is often associated with traditions such as Buddhism and Hinduism.
Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama, emphasizes the importance of inner peace in the world:
"The question of real, lasting world peace concerns human beings, so basic human feelings are also at its roots. Through inner peace, genuine world peace can be achieved. In this the importance of individual responsibility is quite clear; an atmosphere of peace must first be created within ourselves, then gradually expanded to include our families, our communities, and ultimately the whole planet." [1]
So, my poor little DUmmie Kitty, the Dalai Lama says no world peace until you discover inner peace. The number one thing about inner peace is it is a choice. Choose to have inner peace and the world will be less ****ed up because the world you are experiencing is a projection of your inner state of being.
This is KEY, DUmmies, if you want world peace you first have to have inner peace and protesting and throwing trash cans through McDonald's or Starbucks windows is the opposite of peace. And all your machinations and messiahs and vote fraud will do nothing to improve the world if you choose not to improve your own self. And it is a choice. If you don't have inner peace it means you chose not to have it. It isn't your ex-"boy"friend's fault. It isn't your parent's fault, it isn't his parent's fault because it is your choice and nobody can choose it for you.
True, drama can be fun for a while but eventually we all like to grow up and be in charge of our own inner states.
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My head hurts :-)
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My head hurts :-)
You're not supposed to actually read it. :beer:
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You're not supposed to actually read it. :beer:
Oooooooooooh!! :-)
Yeah, Give me a beer!