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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Wretched Excess on November 12, 2008, 11:12:35 AM

Title: Baucus unveils sweeping (universal) healthcare plan (that didn't take long)
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 12, 2008, 11:12:35 AM

it will be interesting to see how the obama administration reacts to this.  he was specifically not in favor of universal health care during the primaries (I always thought that was just to draw a distinction between himself and hillary) for a variety of inconsistent reasons.

this could shape up to be the first significant dust up between the dems on the hill, and the white house.  the senate is trying to push the agenda, and I don't expect that President BarackStar! is going to like it very much.

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Baucus unveils sweeping healthcare plan

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus stepped to the forefront of the national debate over healthcare with a sweeping universal-coverage plan, pushing the issue to the top of the next Congress's agenda.

"In 2009, Congress must take up and act on meaningful health reform legislation that achieves coverage for all Americans while also addressing the underlying problems in our health system," the Montana Democrat said in a policy paper released Wednesday. "The urgency of this task has become undeniable.

Under the Montana Democrat's plan, all Americans would be required to hold a health insurance policy, going one step further than President-elect Barack Obama's plan. Individuals could keep their existing health plans or join a nationwide insurance pool to buy coverage, the price tag of which would be reduced with government subsidies. Insurers would not be allowed to discriminate based on pre-existing conditions, a centerpiece of Obama's plan.

Baucus's plan comes after Sen. Edward Kennedy (Mass.), who chairs a key health committee, and other top Democrats have sent clear signals that the 111th Congress will attempt to enact a sweeping healthcare plan — despite the skyrocketing national debt. Obama has listed healthcare as a priority on his agenda, but he has suggested that a big push may wait until after the financial system stabilizes.

Under Baucus's approach, coverage would be expanded under Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program, which would ensure that children below 250 percent of the federal poverty level would be covered. People between the ages of 55 and 64 would be eligible for a Medicare buy-in, and the plan would phase out the current two-year period where individuals who have disabilities have to wait for Medicare coverage.

More (http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/baucus-unveils-sweeping-healthcare-plan-2008-11-12.html)
Title: Re: Baucus unveils sweeping (universal) healthcare plan (that didn't take long)
Post by: Rebel on November 12, 2008, 11:17:06 AM
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Individuals could keep their existing health plans or join a nationwide insurance pool to buy coverage, the price tag of which would be reduced with government subsidies. Insurers would not be allowed to discriminate based on pre-existing conditions, a centerpiece of Obama's plan.

So, I can keep my existing healthcare, or pay some into a government insurance pool, .......and pay the rest with my taxes.  :bs:
Title: Re: Baucus unveils sweeping (universal) healthcare plan (that didn't take long)
Post by: NHSparky on November 12, 2008, 11:22:51 AM
Next Obama voter that cries about their taxes, how hard it is to find a job, etc...is gonna be spitting teeth.
Title: Re: Baucus unveils sweeping (universal) healthcare plan (that didn't take long)
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 13, 2008, 09:28:18 AM
President elect promises, "Free, cheap, affordable, healthcare for all Americans."

A few months later.

DUmmie, "Whadda you mean, I gotta wait 6 months to get into a second or third rate hospital. I WANT INTO JOHN HOPKINS NOW!"
Title: Re: Baucus unveils sweeping (universal) healthcare plan (that didn't take long)
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 13, 2008, 10:24:47 AM
President elect promises, "Free, cheap, affordable, healthcare for all Americans."

A few months later.

DUmmie, "Whadda you mean, I gotta wait 6 months to get into a second or third rate hospital. I WANT INTO JOHN HOPKINS NOW!"

"free" refers to the cost, but "cheap" refers to the quality of the service. 
Title: Re: Baucus unveils sweeping (universal) healthcare plan (that didn't take long)
Post by: docstew on November 13, 2008, 11:03:06 AM
"free" refers to the cost, but "cheap" refers to the quality of the service. 

it is an axiom of the market that you get what ya pay for...
Title: Re: Baucus unveils sweeping (universal) healthcare plan (that didn't take long)
Post by: AllosaursRus on November 13, 2008, 06:45:38 PM
President elect promises, "Free, cheap, affordable, healthcare for all Americans."

A few months later.

DUmmie, "Whadda you mean, I gotta wait 6 months to get into a second or third rate hospital. I WANT INTO JOHN HOPKINS NOW!"

Yep! I'm real curious where they're going to send the illegal immigrants they want to insure. Are they going to send them to UC of Berkley, or are are they going to send them to my local Holy Family?

SOB, we have enough problems dealing with these non-paying POS's!
Title: Re: Baucus unveils sweeping (universal) healthcare plan (that didn't take long)
Post by: Chris_ on November 13, 2008, 07:08:04 PM
I guess some people are too stupid to learn from object lessons -- LIKE HAWAII!!

Dumber than dirt.

And this is nothing compared to what joys the thug fuhrer has in store.