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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CactusCarlos on November 07, 2008, 04:43:57 PM
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OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
Posted by Taverner on Fri Nov-07-08 04:23 PM
Can I hear it from you guys? RELIGION IS BULLSHIT
Has nothing to do with the color of your skin - Dobson is just as much of a homophobe as Alan Keyes.
Who pushed Prop 8? THE MORMON CHURCH. THE FUNDIES AND EVANGELICALS. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. (in other words, RELIGION)
So who's fault is it? RELIGION
Who should we be directing our hate? RELIGION
Who is pushing bronze age ideas in 2008? RELIGION
Who once asserted with complete confidence that the Earth was flat, illnesses were the result of sin and that the universe revolves around Earth?
RELIGION
What made Mohammed Atta and his buddies fly planes into buildings on 9/11? RELIGION
What made a Somalian Sharia Court stone a 13-year old girl to death for being raped? RELIGION
What sends children to attack abortion clinics, and shoot doctors? RELIGION
What kept us back from technology? RELIGION
What deemed BSD as a "Satanic OS"? RELIGION
So who's at fault?
Is it: Black People?
Is it: White People?
Is it: Obama Supporters?
NO - IT'S RELIGION
And it will be until we turn all of our churches into the museums they need to be, so we can look back and laugh at our stupidity.
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Oh my.
The stool-dwelling primitive must've been at a Friday afternoon "Happy Hour."
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too bad Taverner - but you lose.
Unlike you one-issue DUmpmonkeys, we understand that when you actively court a segment of the population for one issue, as an added bonus you get all of their other thoughts and beliefs with it.
most Catholics, African Americans, and people of other Christian faiths don't like Gay Marriage. AFAIK all Muslims are totally against homosexuality. As a general demographic, white males don't approve either. So, *I hate to say it, but you brought Prop 8 upon yourselves.
(*I really don't hate to say it - I actually am amused to say it :-) )
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Dream on, taverner. Unlike screwing the behind of another man and getting state sanction of the behavior as normal via marriage, freedom to worship as one pleases was actually protected and outlined as a right in the Constitution of this great country.
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You can scream at the wind all you want, DUmmies -- the hard cold facts are that Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Prop 8.
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too bad Taverner - but you lose.
Unlike you one-issue DUmpmonkeys, we understand that when you actively court a segment of the population for one issue, as an added bonus you get all of their other thoughts and beliefs with it.
most Catholics, African Americans, and people of other Christian faiths don't like Gay Marriage. AFAIK all Muslims are totally against homosexuality. As a general demographic, white males don't approve either. So, *I hate to say it, but you brought Prop 8 upon yourselves.
(*I really don't hate to say it - I actually am amused to say it :-) )
Exactly, break it to them gently,, it was the African American and Hispanic vote that defeated Prop, 8...
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So religion is bad? Whew. I'm glad I'm a Christian instead of religious.
I did decide to look up the definition of "religion". Based on my research guess who is religious...
Religion: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
The DUmmies fit this description. One "cause" that they hold to with "ardor and faith" is the destruction of America. Another "cause" that they hold to with "ardor and faith" is the elevation of all things wicked and the subjugation of anyone who things differently.
Religion: something one believes in and follows devotedly
Their belief and devotion to both socialism and hatred fit this description.
Religion: people's beliefs and opinions concerning the existence, nature, and worship of a deity or deities,
Their worship of O fits this description.
Not only do DUmmies hate America and all that is good, based upon this post about their hatred of religion, they also hate themselves.
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AFAIK all Muslims are totally against homosexuality.
This is actually rather odd. Muslims have all sorts of rules about this sort of thing. You aren't homosexual if you are the catcher, and as long as it "just sex" and nothing resembling love is involved. The attitude seems to have developed out of their segregating off of women.
It isn't odd at all to see Muslim men holding hands.
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This is actually rather odd. Muslims have all sorts of rules about this sort of thing. You aren't homosexual if you are the catcher, and as long as it "just sex" and nothing resembling love is involved. The attitude seems to have developed out of their segregating off of women.
It isn't odd at all to see Muslim men holding hands.
Also, from what I've heard from www.thereligionofpeace.com, Muslim men are allowed to "repent" of their homosexuality and live. Muslim lesbians can "repent," but are still stoned to death.
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OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
Posted by Taverner on Fri Nov-07-08 04:23 PM
Who should we be directing our hate? RELIGION
Maybe just lose the hate. Or would that be too Christian of you?
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Seems to me it was the voters. Funny how Prop 8 passed but something to notify parents when a child had an abortion, not for consent just to inform them, that got voted down. Religion again?
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Also, from what I've heard from www.thereligionofpeace.com, Muslim men are allowed to "repent" of their homosexuality and live. Muslim lesbians can "repent," but are still stoned to death.
I don't know of that for sure, but I know of a woman author that "went bhind the lines" who commented that it was as common among women over there as among men. The culture would force women to be more circumspect about it.
It is similar to the notion about women not talking to non-family men. All it does is create a ritual where they do communicate. For example, in the mall in Kuwait if you (you being a man who doesn't happen to have a muslim woman family member) notice a muslim woman following you this is what occurs:
1. You stop and lean against the wall with a rail near it for a minute, to mark the spot.
2. You move away and observe her move to that position. She will maintain it for about a minute and then walk away.
3. Walk back to that position and collect the piece of paper she left with her cell phone number.
4. Walk to a table in the coffee shop (she went there btw) call the cell phone number and strike up a conversation.
Please note for the above, she may seem to be coming on, but that is just muslim culture. Enjoy the conversation but don't expect anything more than that.
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"OK" and what is the name of their "RELIGION"?
IT'S LIBERALISM
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The weird thing is that they are totally outnumbered by "religious" people. If we were exactly as tolerant as they, they would be in camps somewhere. :thatsright:
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The weird thing is that they are totally outnumbered by "religious" people. If we were exactly as tolerant as they, they would be in camps somewhere. :thatsright:
When they say they want tolerance they are really saying is they demand that their lifestyle and choices be held to be superior to the "breeders". They've declared that often enough.
As an unnamed Jewish holocaust survivor once said, "When someone tells you he is going to kill you, believe him." It's the same concept.
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Exactly, break it to them gently,, it was the African American and Hispanic vote that defeated Prop, 8...
California's proposition eight passed.
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When they say they want tolerance they are really saying is they demand that their lifestyle and choices be held to be superior to the "breeders". They've declared that often enough.
As an unnamed Jewish holocaust survivor once said, "When someone tells you he is going to kill you, believe him." It's the same concept.
I have said it time and time and time again. A seeming large segment of the homosexual population does not want tolerance nor do they want acceptance. They want out right public approval.
What consulting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is one thing, but they try to shove their deviant behavior down my throat with their "gay" pride parades and want me to approve of it?
No freaking way!
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Hi,
I am new here... once upon a time, I was a DU member.
I am ashamed. :thatsright:
Anyway, love what I see so far... so I guess I am saying hi!
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Hi,
I am new here... once upon a time, I was a DU member.
I am ashamed. :thatsright:
Anyway, love what I see so far... so I guess I am saying hi!
Hey :) - Ive spent alot of time reading your blog, as well as alot of the other larger PUMA productions (TD, Hillbuzz, Noquarter, HCforum.net) Im glad to see you have elected to keep pressure on The One instead of falling in line, and Im also glad to see there are still sensible Democrats out there - We may not always agree, but at least we can see a common threat to us all - anyway well done on the blog, and welcome :cheersmate:
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Hi,
I am new here... once upon a time, I was a DU member.
I am ashamed. :thatsright:
Anyway, love what I see so far... so I guess I am saying hi!
Hope ya took a couple of showers before ya posted then, THC. :lmao:
Good to have ya here at CC.
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I have said it time and time and time again. A seeming large segment of the homosexual population does not want tolerance nor do they want acceptance. They want out right public approval.
What consulting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is one thing, but they try to shove their deviant behavior down my throat with their "gay" pride parades and want me to approve of it?
No freaking way!
I don't get it. They have more freedom to live the life they choose here than in most countries. (Maybe not all, but there are certainly a whole lot of places where they would be actually persecuted.) They can go to a lawyer and get almost all the "benefits" of marriage. They have all kinds of entertainers and media constantly promoting their choices. (And whether or not the attraction is a choice, the actions certainly are. We don't forgive alcoholics or drug abusers for their actions, many of which have proven to have more chance of being genetic than sexual choices.) They demand, and often attain, the ability to preach their choices to school kids...while their most-often-chosen political party fights viciously to keep any mention of Christ away from those same kids. Yet it's never enough. They want the supposed benfits of marriage to be automatic; the blessing of Christians, their churches and their businesses; and they want our kids to raise. It seems we can't possibly give them enough to make them happy, so they'll just keep demanding more and more.
Not to mention the fact that those supposed benefits of marriage often aren't. When Mr Smith and I married, neither insurance company would cover step-kids, so we had to buy 2 full family policies. Our overall tax rate jumped quite a bit, that marriage penalty is muted under Pres Bush, but still there. We had to get a pre-nup, because those "benefits of marriage" could expose my assets to his ex-wife's demands, depending on which state we reside within. As it is, if he precedes me in death, there is still a good chance the Kansas laws will give her 1/4 of our assets "for the kids" despite the fact that much of what we own was brought into the marriage by me...he had literally no assets except personal belongings and an old car. And this kind of crap is what these nimrods are salivating over. :banghead:
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I don't get it. They have more freedom to live the life they choose here than in most countries. (Maybe not all, but there are certainly a whole lot of places where they would be actually persecuted.) They can go to a lawyer and get almost all the "benefits" of marriage. They have all kinds of entertainers and media constantly promoting their choices. (And whether or not the attraction is a choice, the actions certainly are. We don't forgive alcoholics or drug abusers for their actions, many of which have proven to have more chance of being genetic than sexual choices.) They demand, and often attain, the ability to preach their choices to school kids...while their most-often-chosen political party fights viciously to keep any mention of Christ away from those same kids. Yet it's never enough. They want the supposed benfits of marriage to be automatic; the blessing of Christians, their churches and their businesses; and they want our kids to raise. It seems we can't possibly give them enough to make them happy, so they'll just keep demanding more and more.
Not to mention the fact that those supposed benefits of marriage often aren't. When Mr Smith and I married, neither insurance company would cover step-kids, so we had to buy 2 full family policies. Our overall tax rate jumped quite a bit, that marriage penalty is muted under Pres Bush, but still there. We had to get a pre-nup, because those "benefits of marriage" could expose my assets to his ex-wife's demands, depending on which state we reside within. As it is, if he precedes me in death, there is still a good chance the Kansas laws will give her 1/4 of our assets "for the kids" despite the fact that much of what we own was brought into the marriage by me...he had literally no assets except personal belongings and an old car. And this kind of crap is what these nimrods are salivating over. :banghead:
Like all things DUmmie, the issue isn't what they claim it is. It's merely a vehicle for venting their own hatred. They're not really interested in the equal rights and freedoms they take for granted... they want churches destroyed. They want talk radio destroyed. They want Sarah Palin destroyed. The unborn? You guessed it... destroyed. They're as intolerant and hateful as anything they claim to oppose. DU = Hate.com
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Hi,
I am new here... once upon a time, I was a DU member.
I am ashamed. :thatsright:
Anyway, love what I see so far... so I guess I am saying hi!
Hi-5 to the new kid from Texas. Welcome.
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Hi,
I am new here... once upon a time, I was a DU member.
I am ashamed. :thatsright:
Anyway, love what I see so far... so I guess I am saying hi!
Well, I'm a DU member but not a DUmmie. Were you a DUmmie?
Welcome to Conservative Cave! :cheersmate:
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Hi,
I am new here... once upon a time, I was a DU member.
I am ashamed. :thatsright:
Anyway, love what I see so far... so I guess I am saying hi!
THC, welcome!
I started to read Hillbuzz in the last week before the election. I was hoping that you'd be able to pull it off . . . but since then, I'm glad that the wheat has been seperated from the chaff.
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THC, welcome!
I started to read Hillbuzz in the last week before the election. I was hoping that you'd be able to pull it off . . . but since then, I'm glad that the wheat has been seperated from the chaff.
Thank you for the warm welcome. I am glad to find so many reasonable people here. I checked out a couple of the other conservative/republican forums, and they were pretty rabidly... well, rude. I really appreciate it.
We did our best... we estimate that there were about 3 million of us that voted for McCain.... we lost about half our members to the power of the koolaid. :banghead:
Hillbuzz is a great blog, though I am not sure what they are doing now.
I have my own blog at http://texashillblog.blogspot.com (I am currently in the process of transferring all my files over there anyway), but I also write for http://noquarterusa.net
I appreciate the visits miskie! thanks so much for coming and reading my stuff. i really appreciate it a lot. please keep coming and drop some comments.
And Carlos, no, I was not a DUmmie... that is why I ended up getting TS'd.
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Thank you for the warm welcome. I am glad to find so many reasonable people here. I checked out a couple of the other conservative/republican forums, and they were pretty rabidly... well, rude. I really appreciate it.
We did our best... we estimate that there were about 3 million of us that voted for McCain.... we lost about half our members to the power of the koolaid. :banghead:
Hillbuzz is a great blog, though I am not sure what they are doing now.
I have my own blog at http://texashillblog.blogspot.com (I am currently in the process of transferring all my files over there anyway), but I also write for http://noquarterusa.net
I appreciate the visits miskie! thanks so much for coming and reading my stuff. i really appreciate it a lot. please keep coming and drop some comments.
And Carlos, no, I was not a DUmmie... that is why I ended up getting TS'd.
We're really not rude at all - as for sarcastic -- well, that's a different story :uhsure: - The short version is most of the first posters here came from ConservativeUnderground (the site that shall not be named at DU) and during the run-up to the Republican primaries CU became overrun with Ronulans. - and it started to become very,very rude. This site was born, and those of us who couldn't take Ron Paul and things like Israel bashing 24/7 moved here. As was mentioned on another site as gossip of the split occurred, we were collectively described as 'Reagan Republicans', which is probably pretty close to the truth. That set of core beliefs and ideology has set the tone at CC.
I may drop a comment or two in the future, During the election I spent almost no time posting anywhere but here, I was reading everything else by everyone else, including other conservative sources, PUMA sites, as well as the DUmmies and KOS kiddies. No time to post at all :-) Anyway, welcome, enjoy, post etc
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Hi,
I am new here... once upon a time, I was a DU member.
I am ashamed. :thatsright:
Anyway, love what I see so far... so I guess I am saying hi!
Hello THC from another Texas Hill Country person and relative newbie. I love it here. I'm in Round Rock although it's all sort of melding together into the metropolis of Austin.
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I see the conversions have begun, just like teh Rove promised. :evillaugh:
Welcome!