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Title: Obama's night of the long knives
Post by: paladin0 on November 05, 2008, 08:31:15 PM
So,

When will he consolidate power and remove the remaining Clinton cronies from any sort of responsibility in the democratic party and replace them with his own?

Paladin0
Title: Re: Obama's night of the long knives
Post by: thundley4 on November 05, 2008, 08:35:58 PM
So,

When will he consolidate power and remove the remaining Clinton cronies from any sort of responsibility in the democratic party and replace them with his own?

Paladin0

Didn't he just pick a Clinton Crony as his chief of staff?  Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.
Title: Re: Obama's night of the long knives
Post by: Jim on November 06, 2008, 07:49:06 AM
Anyone seen Howard Dean lately ?
Title: Re: Obama's night of the long knives
Post by: franksolich on November 06, 2008, 07:50:54 AM
Maybe the Big Zero'll have Bill Ayers do the job--after all, Bill Ayers has had considerable experience in planning to do away with people--after which the Big Zero'll name Bill Ayers to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Title: Re: Obama's night of the long knives
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on November 06, 2008, 08:27:11 AM
Maybe the Big Zero'll have Bill Ayers do the job--after all, Bill Ayers has had considerable experience in planning to do away with people--after which the Big Zero'll name Bill Ayers to the U.S. Supreme Court.
I think Ayers will probably be head of Department of Education and Obama will put Jocelyn Elders on the Supreme Court.
Title: Re: Obama's night of the long knives
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 06, 2008, 09:25:21 AM
It will depend on what they can do for him, and how willing they are to sever their past ties to fal in with him.  Like Saladin, he would prefer to convert them rather than put them to the sword.  I believe he is an intelligent man who would realize a purge would be a bad move.  The problem with his over-intellectualizing approach is that he is occasionally too thoughtful for his own good (or ours) and it is much more likely that he will fail to purge advisors and staff that are working against him or the nation's interests when it is apparent to everyone else that the time to do so has come.
Title: Re: Obama's night of the long knives
Post by: franksolich on November 06, 2008, 09:30:21 AM
The problem with his over-intellectualizing approach is that he is occasionally too thoughtful for his own good (or ours) and it is much more likely that he will fail to purge advisors and staff that are working against him or the nation's interests when it is apparent to everyone else that the time to do so has come.

Interestingly, that's also a good description of George Bush and Condaleeza Rice, when it came to the U.S. Department of State, where bureaucrats there constantly frustrated attempts to enforce policies, and even thwarted them.
Title: Re: Obama's night of the long knives
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 06, 2008, 09:36:09 AM
Interestingly, that's also a good description of George Bush and Condaleeza Rice, when it came to the U.S. Department of State, where bureaucrats there constantly frustrated attempts to enforce policies, and even thwarted them.

I was thinking more of Bush's failure to move on from Rumsfeld, long after everyone else had lost confidence in him, though in Bush's case these failings are more an issue of personal loyalty than pathological overanalysis.  I believe Conoleeza Rice did a much better job of trying to get the State Department in line with the President's policies than did Colin Powell, who at least recognized himself that he wasn't getting anywhere with the entrenched Liberal bureaucracy there and left it. 
Title: Re: Obama's night of the long knives
Post by: paladin0 on November 06, 2008, 05:43:45 PM
Didn't he just pick a Clinton Crony as his chief of staff?  Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.

That was a Clinton crony that jumped ship in the primaries. Anybody who backed ABM over Hillary is safe, it's the ones who remained loyal to Hillary that have to watch their backs.

Paladin0