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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: TexasFred on November 05, 2008, 05:11:09 PM
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Electoral Votes: Barack Obama: 338, John McCain: 162 as of this AM, there are still conflicting numbers, but rest assured, Obama cleaned McCains clock.
History has surely been made with this election, I hope it’s not the final chapter for America, now, how do I say this and NOT offend a few friends in the process??
I don’t know if there is any way to NOT offend actually, I have NEVER been a PC person and I am damn sure not about to start now, politics needs hard truth, not PCness.
It’s over. McCain has lost, by a VERY wide margin, and as I said on numerous occasions, I was fully expecting this. He carried Texas and a good portion of the South, but he couldn’t even begin to win in the states that have the majority of electoral votes, liberal voters and disenfranchised moderates and Repubs.
My vote for Bob Barr was MY vote, it wasn’t a wasted vote, NO vote for a candidate that’s ON the ballot is a wasted vote. Let’s face it, all the votes cast for 3rd party candidates, all of them put together wouldn’t have made one bit of difference in this election, Obama, and his Obamanation have taken this one by storm.
I did NOT support McCain, I never liked him, I never trusted him, I never wanted him to be the POTUS and for the very brief period of time that I had a logo up on this blog for him it was because I was bowing to peer pressure, and that is something I just don’t do. I am my own man, regardless of the consequences, and I voted MY conscience, that old BULLSHIT about a vote for anyone other than McCain was just that, pure, 100% BULLSHIT, the numbers don’t lie.
For the last 2 years I have tried to tell everyone that would listen to me, McCain was NOT the one to take on and beat Obama, and I was correct. At this point in time, I actually don’t believe there was a Republican in the race, right from the start, that could have beat Obama anyway, and like it or not, you have no one to thank for that other than George W. Bush.
Many on the left fell for the *CHANGE* mantra, and it was surely a mantra, many just didn’t like McCain and saw him as a continuation of the Bush presidency, many just hate Bush and Company so much that they would have voted for Satan himself to keep a Republican out of the Oval Office.
We, the Conservatives of this nation, have a HUGE task ahead of us, we have Senate races to win back, we have Congress to win back, and that’s the mid-term fight we have to focus on at this particular time. I personally believe that after 2 years of a Democratic controlled Congress, there will be a serious swing in control of the House, and I don’t care if it’s Republican or not, as long as it’s CONSERVATIVE.
It appears that Texas will retain John Cornyn (R)(Socialist) as the junior Senator from Texas until Kay Bailey Hutchison (R)(Socialist) steps down to come home and run for Governor in 2 years, I am hoping she has to resign her Senate seat to do so, she IS talking retirement as well, and if so, we’ll be working very hard here in Texas to KEEP her socialist, wetback loving ass retired.
It also appears that my favorite Congressman, Mr. Sam Johnson, Texas 3rd, is going to hold his seat, that is GREAT news, Mr. Sam didn’t vote FOR the Wall Street bailout as many others did, including both of our U.S. Senators from Texas.
I did get one very shocking surprise on election night, the race for Dallas County Sheriff. The incumbent, Lupe Valdez, a Hispanic, a VERY Liberal Dem, an avowed lesbian and without question the worst Sheriff that Dallas County has had in any recent times, was re-elected by predominantly Democratic Dallas County. By a very big margin too, by Dems, Libbers and Hispanics. Oh well, you get what you elect, morale is already very low on the Dallas County Sheriffs Office, I am guessing that it just went a lot lower.
To all of my readers I say this, the Dems have carried the day, the Republicans never had a chance as a party, and that is because there was a tremendous amount of defection from the ranks, but lets face facts, the Republican party is only a shadow of what it once was, in the Reagan days for instance. Mainstream Republicans are, basically, nothing more than Dem Lite today.
The future of this nation is NOT in the hands of Dems OR Repubs, it rests on the shoulders of the CONSERVATIVES of this nation, and if this nation is to continue to survive, WE, the CONSERVATIVES, must regain control of the House of Representatives before there is nothing left worth saving.
The battle for 2010 begins today, the battle for 2012 begins today as well, and it begins right here and right now. I am an Independent Conservative, I hope that many of you will take up that same mantle, and wear that name proudly. It’s time for a viable 3rd party candidacy in America, one that can offer a real challenge to our antiquated 2 party system, a 3rd party candidacy that can WIN! And it can happen, but it won’t happen with dissent and negative thinking, we either stand together or we ALL go down together.
It’s YOUR choice…
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I appreciate your vision, but I think the place we need to start is with the Republican party, and work to elect people who are actually REAL Conservatives, or even Conservative Libertarians. Small government folks. Americans First folks. Folks who are not afraid to salute the flag, and who aren't embarrassed by the mighty force the last superpower possesses.
No more 'Compassionate Conservatism' - All that got us is lots of illegal residents, and great big Government.
No more *****footing around our enemies. - If they want a piece of us, we go in to win. Period.
No more Foreign Oil - most of those countries hate us, so lets bankrupt their governments, and put Americans to work.
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My vote for Bob Barr was MY vote
Stop reading after this.
Next.
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Stop reading after this.
Next.
Everyone has an opinion, that one is yours... Ya missed the really good stuff... :tongue:
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I appreciate your vision, but I think the place we need to start is with the Republican party, and work to elect people who are actually REAL Conservatives, or even Conservative Libertarians. Small government folks. Americans First folks. Folks who are not afraid to salute the flag, and who aren't embarrassed by the mighty force the last superpower possesses.
No more 'Compassionate Conservatism' - All that got us is lots of illegal residents, and great big Government.
No more *****footing around our enemies. - If they want a piece of us, we go in to win. Period.
No more Foreign Oil - most of those countries hate us, so lets bankrupt their governments, and put Americans to work.
Couldn't agree more... The Repubs aren't Repubs anymore, they are Dem Lite... The Dems are Marxist or Commies or Socialists, depends on who ya ask, but CONSERVATISM is the only thing that will save this nation, and if the Repubs won't do it, and by offering up John McCain they showed the world that they have NO idea of what conservative even means, then it's up to conservatives that are Independents or little*L* libertarians to get it done...
We have got to get some SANE people into the races...
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I appreciate your vision, but I think the place we need to start is with the Republican party, and work to elect people who are actually REAL Conservatives, or even Conservative Libertarians. Small government folks. Americans First folks. Folks who are not afraid to salute the flag, and who aren't embarrassed by the mighty force the last superpower possesses.
No more 'Compassionate Conservatism' - All that got us is lots of illegal residents, and great big Government.
No more *****footing around our enemies. - If they want a piece of us, we go in to win. Period.
No more Foreign Oil - most of those countries hate us, so lets bankrupt their governments, and put Americans to work.
Time to go back to basics: No more pretending, no more compromising our principles. NO MORE NEOCONSERVATISM!!
* SMALL GOVERNMENT!
* LOW TAXES!
* FREE MARKETS!
* WORK ETHICS!
* NO ILLEGAL ALIENS!
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Time to go back to basics: No more pretending, no more compromising our principles. NO MORE NEOCONSERVATISM!!
* SMALL GOVERNMENT!
* LOW TAXES!
* FREE MARKETS!
* WORK ETHICS!
* NO ILLEGAL ALIENS!
I like it.
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Couldn't agree more... The Repubs aren't Repubs anymore, they are Dem Lite... The Dems are Marxist or Commies or Socialists, depends on who ya ask, but CONSERVATISM is the only thing that will save this nation, and if the Repubs won't do it, and by offering up John McCain they showed the world that they have NO idea of what conservative even means, then it's up to conservatives that are Independents or little*L* libertarians to get it done...
We have got to get some SANE people into the races...
You're right on your first statement. I think that's why Palin brought a lot to McCain's candidacy. We need to force the GOP back to their roots. People like Duncan Hunter need to be brought forth.
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You're right on your first statement. I think that's why Palin brought a lot to McCain's candidacy. We need to force the GOP back to their roots. People like Duncan Hunter need to be brought forth.
Hunter, Palin, Bobby Jindal, yeah, you bet... REAL Conservatives, not RINOs...
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Hunter, Palin, Bobby Jindal, yeah, you bet... REAL Conservatives, not RINOs...
Steele/Palin '12!
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Steele/Palin '12!
One of my readers said that SAME thing 2 days ago... I know nothing about Steele, might better look into that huh??
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One of my readers said that SAME thing 2 days ago... I know nothing about Steele, might better look into that huh??
Steele is a staunch capitalist conservative who's LOATHED by the left. He's the one those idiots threw Oreo cookies at. He's the former Lt. Governor from Maryland.
(http://www.granitegrok.com/pix/Michael%20S%20Steele.jpg)
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A staunch capitalist conservative who's LOATHED by the left?? What's NOT to love?? :-)
If he can actually wage a fight, he might be able to get it done... I am just not happy with this reach around, uh, reach across the aisle BS that seems to be so poplar, I take sides, and I choose conservatism, not half and half libber can't make up their mind BS, and I want a REAL fire breathing Conservative in the White House...
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A staunch capitalist conservative who's LOATHED by the left?? What's NOT to love?? :-)
If he can actually wage a fight, he might be able to get it done... I am just not happy with this reach around, uh, reach across the aisle BS that seems to be so poplar, I take sides, and I choose conservatism, not half and half libber can't make up their mind BS, and I want a REAL fire breathing Conservative in the White House...
Fred, they hate him so much they not only threw Oreos at him, they illegally obtained his credit report and posted it on the internet. Liberals cannot STAND conservative blacks, women, Hispanics, gays, or anyone who's supposed to be part of their special interest groups.
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Fred, they hate him so much they not only threw Oreos at him, they illegally obtained his credit report and posted it on the internet. Liberals cannot STAND conservative blacks, women, Hispanics, gays, or anyone who's supposed to be part of their special interest groups.
I believe I am going to do some serious research on the guy and do a post about him on the blog, I had 1 reader mention him and it was one of my very well read folks, that, and now this tells me I need to get on the ball and take a look at this guy, I was quite serious in my original post when I said, the race for 2012 starts NOW!!
I am sorry that one member stopped reading when she saw Bob Barr's name, I thought that was a tactic from the *other* side... Ya know, if you don't listen (read) ya can't learn anything... And tonight I think I have learned something...
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Couldn't agree more... The Repubs aren't Repubs anymore, they are Dem Lite... The Dems are Marxist or Commies or Socialists, depends on who ya ask, but CONSERVATISM is the only thing that will save this nation, and if the Repubs won't do it, and by offering up John McCain they showed the world that they have NO idea of what conservative even means, then it's up to conservatives that are Independents or little*L* libertarians to get it done...
We have got to get some SANE people into the races...
The Reps are a shell of its former self.
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Steele/Palin '12!
I think it should be Palin/ Steele, TYVM.....
(f'n Chooch.......)
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Michael Steele is on Fox News all the time. He's quite impressive.
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I like it.
And I didn't even have to say NO BUNNIES! ;)
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I think it should be Palin/ Steele, TYVM.....
(f'n Chooch.......)
Either or.
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Well, just a quick Google and I already like what I see...
Now I know I'm new HERE but I am NOT new to politics, Palin is HOT, smokin' hot, but I am NOT convinced that she is presidential material, but neither is the one that's there, the one going there or his backup...
So, maybe she is MORE qualified than Bush, McCain, Obama AND Biden, but she is in serious need of some voice coaching, some Government and Civics classes and some world study, after that, you betcha, she and 1st Dude might be just the ticket, but IMO, as is, she is NOT ready...
Now, here's the other way of looking at it too, Steele isn't ready either, no one is going in, if you haven't been POTUS, there is NO WAY to be totally ready, you have to get your feet wet, it's just the massive consequences that you have to carefully weigh out, and with 2 or 3 more years of *seasoning*, Palin could well be the best thing to EVER happen, she IS Conservative, and did I mention?? She IS HOT!!
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She is hot, and I always thought that, but when I saw her in jeans? Let's just say my male hormones started getting worked up. :naughty:
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Well, just a quick Google and I already like what I see...
Now I know I'm new HERE but I am NOT new to politics, Palin is HOT, smokin' hot, but I am NOT convinced that she is presidential material, but neither is the one that's there, the one going there or his backup...
So, maybe she is MORE qualified than Bush, McCain, Obama AND Biden, but she is in serious need of some voice coaching, some Government and Civics classes and some world study, after that, you betcha, she and 1st Dude might be just the ticket, but IMO, as is, she is NOT ready...
Now, here's the other way of looking at it too, Steele isn't ready either, no one is going in, if you haven't been POTUS, there is NO WAY to be totally ready, you have to get your feet wet, it's just the massive consequences that you have to carefully weigh out, and with 2 or 3 more years of *seasoning*, Palin could well be the best thing to EVER happen, she IS Conservative, and did I mention?? She IS HOT!!
Is ANYBODY ever actually ready to fill that office ?!?!?!? Palin has way more experience than our "historic mulatto". That just goes to show me that either the Libtards are just ****ing stupid and have double standards. Bush wasn't "ready", Clinton wasn't "ready", and hell, even Reagan wasn't "ready".
BTW, Kev, down boy, down........ :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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This is an interesting election map
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/election/uscounties.html
Give it time to load.
WARNING... NOT DIAL-UP FRIENDLY!!!
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The county map:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/2008WinnersByCounty-1.jpg) (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/2008WinnersByCounty.jpg)
The margin of victory map:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/2008MarginofVictory-1.jpg) (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/2008MarginofVictory.jpg)
That 3D map is a pain in the ass to read.
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Did you see those huge spikes in Cook and LA counties? That is the intersting part of the 3d map
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I think I'm going to move to Oklahoma. No blue there, and the gas prices are low.
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The county map:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/2008WinnersByCounty-1.jpg) (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/2008WinnersByCounty.jpg)
In Nebraska: Lincoln and Omaha went for obama. All others went for McCain.
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Problem with Barr is that he's a political chamelon. First a Dem, then a Republican, then a Libertarian. Jesus, man--pick a party and STICK TO IT!
Frankly, the guy was a RINO at best and his affiliation with the ACLU, anti-war groups, etc., make him unelectable as dog catcher. How Georgia put this guy in the House for as long as they did was a joke in and of itself.
Maybe he'll just go back to defending child molestors.
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Well, just a quick Google and I already like what I see...
Now I know I'm new HERE but I am NOT new to politics, Palin is HOT, smokin' hot, but I am NOT convinced that she is presidential material, but neither is the one that's there, the one going there or his backup...
So, maybe she is MORE qualified than Bush, McCain, Obama AND Biden, but she is in serious need of some voice coaching, some Government and Civics classes and some world study, after that, you betcha, she and 1st Dude might be just the ticket, but IMO, as is, she is NOT ready...
Now, here's the other way of looking at it too, Steele isn't ready either, no one is going in, if you haven't been POTUS, there is NO WAY to be totally ready, you have to get your feet wet, it's just the massive consequences that you have to carefully weigh out, and with 2 or 3 more years of *seasoning*, Palin could well be the best thing to EVER happen, she IS Conservative, and did I mention?? She IS HOT!!
Palin brought more to the table than McLame did. I didn't see a whole hell of a lot of pre-Palin McLame signs up around town. Palin (yes, she was good looking, and maybe that attracted some voters) is staunchly pro-life, very good on the 2nd Amendment, has had a history of tearing down corruption (imagine what she'd be able to do in DC), she's actually governed a town and a state.
I imagine that she will not go quietly into the night. Now I do agree with you that she has to be "polished", so to speak, but I'm sure she'll be ready in 2012 while the libs will be ready in full attack mode to try to bring up Troopergate, Trig Palin, and the RNC wardrobe again.
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Everyone has an opinion, that one is yours... Ya missed the really good stuff... :tongue:
Once you spout an inanity, the reader properly assumes the rest of your post is inane.
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Once you spout an inanity, the reader properly assumes the rest of your post is inane.
Bite me! If voting for Bob Barr is gonna be a reason to say I was posting insanities, you can kiss my AMERICAN and FREE to vote for whoever the **** I want to ass... Dictatorial BULL SHIT like that and people running off at the mouth telling everyone that IF you don't vote for McLame you're voting for Obama is the reason McLame lost anyway... That, and the simple fact that the old bastard was a RINO and a LOSER before he ever got the nomination...
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Once you spout an inanity, the reader properly assumes the rest of your post is inane.
He had the courage to stand by his convictions and cast a vote that he felt good about. Even if he knew ahead of time that vote was for the losing horse.
How many of us here can say that about our vote for McCain?
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He had the courage to stand by his convictions and cast a vote that he felt good about. Even if he knew ahead of time that vote was for the losing horse.
How many of us here can say that about our vote for McCain?
Hitler ran on "change" and "hope." Think his surviving supporters are proud of what they did to their country? Lenin's wrested popular support away from the Bolsheveks -- think anyone was particularly pleased with that selection?
Anyone and everyone who voted for the fuhrer can go to hell. Now.
It will be a LOT of work for those of us patriots who are left to stop the fuhrer. But stop him we will -- he will find his every move blocked. His insipid and false "extend the hand" crap will be met with my spittle.
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Bite me! If voting for Bob Barr is gonna be a reason to say I was posting insanities, you can kiss my AMERICAN and FREE to vote for whoever the **** I want to ass... Dictatorial BULL SHIT like that and people running off at the mouth telling everyone that IF you don't vote for McLame you're voting for Obama is the reason McLame lost anyway... That, and the simple fact that the old bastard was a RINO and a LOSER before he ever got the nomination...
"You know, 9/11 was a conspiracy put together by Bush and the IDF..."
Would you read any further? Those words are the same as "I voted for Barr" which translates to "I voted for the fuhrer."
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"You know, 9/11 was a conspiracy put together by Bush and the IDF..."
Would you read any further? Those words are the same as "I voted for Barr" which translates to "I voted for the fuhrer."
H5
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Bite me! If voting for Bob Barr is gonna be a reason to say I was posting insanities, you can kiss my AMERICAN and FREE to vote for whoever the **** I want to ass... Dictatorial BULL SHIT like that and people running off at the mouth telling everyone that IF you don't vote for McLame you're voting for Obama is the reason McLame lost anyway... That, and the simple fact that the old bastard was a RINO and a LOSER before he ever got the nomination...
Blah blah blah.
Perhaps there should be a requirement that one has to be politically mature to vote. When you vote for your warm-fuzzy-feel-good-has-no-chance-in-hell-of-winning candidate YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA. You may not like to hear it, but it is what we adults like to refer to as reality.
We had to suffer through 8 years of Clinton because of the mindset you have embraced -- and yes, we heard the same whine from the Perot supporters. Yet, they didn't learn a damn thing from it AND the RNC never changed (yeah yeah we heard the "clean house" charge then also).
So in closing, you voted for Obama. He is your president. You didn't learn anything from it and will most likely do it again, and that is what is wrong with the Republican party.
History is your friend. You either learn from it, or just go ahead and join lewrockwell.com (I hear they have the "good" brownies there....)
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Hitler ran on "change" and "hope." Think his surviving supporters are proud of what they did to their country? Lenin's wrested popular support away from the Bolsheveks -- think anyone was particularly pleased with that selection?
Anyone and everyone who voted for the fuhrer can go to hell. Now.
It will be a LOT of work for those of us patriots who are left to stop the fuhrer. But stop him we will -- he will find his every move blocked. His insipid and false "extend the hand" crap will be met with my spittle.
First off Fred didn't vote for Obama...he voted for Bob Barr....BIG difference.
And before you go referring to yourself as some Uber Patriot and thinking of TF as some kind of lesser being...He's a retired Military Officer who HAS put it on the line for this country just like I am doing now.
His son is hanging it out there for the rest of us too.
Think about that next time you start drawing up your list of who is and who is NOT a Patriot around here.