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Title: MS Senate : Wicker (R) wins special election
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 04, 2008, 10:33:41 PM
this was a big win.  maybe the senate republicans can slow some of this lunacy down.  if the dems had 60 outright votes in the senate, the republicans would have been roadkill.

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Wicker wins; Dems will fall short of 60

NBC News projects that incumbent Republican Roger Wicker will pull out a win against former Governor Ronnie Musgrove in Mississippi.

With Kentucky's McConnell, Mississippi's Wicker, and Georgia's Chambliss - who looks positioned for reelection - Senate Democrats won't reach 60 votes, even if they gain seats in Colorado (Udall) and Alaska (Begich).

The two races still very much up for grabs: Minnesota and Oregon.  But even with those potential victories, Democrats are poised to fall just short of the sixty votes needed for a filibuster-proof majority in the US Senate.

Nebraska's new senator, as expected, will be Mike Johanns.
Johanns, the former Secretary of Agriculture to Bush, will join Sen. Mel Martinez, former HUD director, as the second former Bush Administration cabinet member in the Senate.

link (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/04/1639920.aspx)
Title: Re: MS Senate : Wicker wins special election (dems can't get to 60 in the senate)
Post by: overlord on November 05, 2008, 12:10:59 AM
this was a big win.  maybe the senate republicans can slow some of this lunacy down.  if the dems had 60 outright votes in the senate, the republicans would have been roadkill.


Let's hope.  They only need to stall for two years.  At that time congress will either shift more to the right (and hopefully a R majority) or it will stay they same or shift more to the left in which case we're screwed either way.
Title: Re: MS Senate : Wicker wins special election (dems can't get to 60 in the senate)
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 05, 2008, 12:12:02 AM
If there is not a supermajority for the Dems, there will be gridlock, which is a good thing. Our Found Fathers wanted gridlock.
Title: Re: MS Senate : Wicker wins special election (dems can't get to 60 in the senate
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 05, 2008, 12:13:59 AM
Let's hope.  They only need to stall for two years.  At that time congress will either shift more to the right (and hopefully a R majority) or it will stay they same or shift more to the left in which case we're screwed either way.

the networks may have been a bit premature in calling GA for chambliss.  he has to get 50% to prevent a runoff, and with the numbers as they are right this minute, he is only about 40,000 votes above 50% of all votes counted thus far.

Title: Re: MS Senate : Wicker wins special election (dems can't get to 60 in the senate
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 05, 2008, 12:15:55 AM
If there is not a supermajority for the Dems, there will be gridlock, which is a good thing. Our Found Fathers wanted gridlock.

saunders always votes with the dems.  and lieberman was a dem before 2006.  the point is that they don't have to pick up many votes at all for cloture.  I think what we are going to see will be a long way from gridlock.