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Title: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: TheSarge on October 30, 2008, 06:46:48 PM
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set," he said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/07/obamas_call_for_more_public_se.html


Did anyone besides me get a chill down their spine when they read that?
Title: Re: Obama's call for more public service
Post by: TheSarge on October 30, 2008, 06:56:39 PM
Why would anyone who...as President...will take an oath to uphold the Constitution...and has a military that’s taken an oath to protect and defend the same document need a civilian (read para-military) fore to carry out “national security objectives”?
Title: Re: Obama's call for more public service
Post by: Chris_ on October 30, 2008, 06:58:03 PM
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"We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

Nice to see that the messiahnfuhrer has a spot for Blackwater.
Title: Re: Obama's call for more public service
Post by: NHSparky on October 30, 2008, 06:58:50 PM
The FBI, ICE, and state/local police forces aren't well funded and not up to the task?  Really, Obummer?
Title: Re: Obama's call for more public service
Post by: Jim on October 30, 2008, 07:20:06 PM
You'll do as vee say and you'll LIKE it......
Title: Re: Obama's call for more public service
Post by: Jim on October 30, 2008, 07:21:42 PM
The FBI, ICE, and state/local police forces aren't well funded and not up to the task?  Really, Obummer?


No, think Cossacks, SS, Black Shirts....
Federal goons to enforce Barry's will.
Title: Re: Obama's call for more public service
Post by: TheSarge on October 30, 2008, 07:28:18 PM

No, think Cossacks, SS, Black Shirts....
Federal goons to enforce Barry's will.

No think more along the lines of Goons outside of any Federal control under the direct supervision of Barakstar!
Title: Re: Obama's call for more public service
Post by: Jim on October 30, 2008, 07:54:59 PM
No think more along the lines of Goons outside of any Federal control under the direct supervision of Barakstar!



'of course every animal is equal but some are more equal'

and they have the ability to listen through your walls, the firepower to take you down and the map to the gulags.

this is, hands down, the most frightening thing I've ever heard come out of a US politician's mouth.

I posted this on a lib site and you should see them rationalizing it.  Not so secretly they LOVE it.
Title: Re: Obama's call for more public service
Post by: Airwolf on October 30, 2008, 08:34:56 PM
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set," he said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/07/obamas_call_for_more_public_se.html


Did anyone besides me get a chill down their spine when they read that?

Yes. I guess he figures there are not enough Nazi's in America.
Title: Re: Obama's call for more public service
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on October 30, 2008, 10:35:28 PM
WTF, is he talking cops or is he talking Macheteros/Dignity Brigades (Saddam Fedayeen, Blackshirts...)???

That shit don' make sense NO-how.
Title: Re: Obama's call for more public service
Post by: Chris_ on October 30, 2008, 10:57:32 PM
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set," he said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/07/obamas_call_for_more_public_se.html


Did anyone besides me get a chill down their spine when they read that?

Is there any doubt in anybody's mind that this shithead has visions of little brownshirted minions enforcing the holy mind and will of the Anointed One by force of mob - and any other means necessary - dancing in his little head? 

The Military swear their oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, from all enemies foreign and domestic.  Wanna bet that this civilian national security force Gestapo will be under no such similar oath?  Or rather they'll be under Oath, but to teh Obamessiah, rather than the Constitution.  I look forward to watching Michelle knight their officer corps with the sword of state, and then watch them kiss the ring of the messiahnfuhrer.
Title: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: mamacags on November 01, 2008, 08:57:21 PM
Holy dog crap! :mental:  Is he serious?  Where is the left screaming about fascism now?


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s[/youtube]
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 01, 2008, 08:59:55 PM

good GOD!  is he being overly confident?  is this the real BHO coming out?
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: franksolich on November 01, 2008, 09:09:27 PM
Well, yes, the idea's very fascistic, very communistic, very socialistic.

But there's a bright side, although only a very dim bright side.

Imagine the primitives from Skins's island being that paramilitary force.

It'd make the Keystone Kops look competent.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 01, 2008, 09:15:21 PM
Well, yes, the idea's very fascistic, very communistic, very socialistic.

But there's a bright side, although only a very dim bright side.

Imagine the primitives from Skins's island being that paramilitary force.

It'd make the Keystone Kops look competent.


The MichelleStar! said that Barack would make us work . . . I suppose this is it.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: franksolich on November 01, 2008, 09:16:45 PM
The MichelleStar! said that Barack would make us work . . . I suppose this is it.

Can you imagine Fat Che, wearing a beret, his belly hanging down in front of him as if an apron, being commander of one of these things?
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Traveshamockery on November 01, 2008, 09:22:04 PM
Each and every day, this guy scares me more and more. 
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 01, 2008, 09:30:18 PM
Can you imagine Fat Che, wearing a beret, his belly hanging down in front of him as if an apron, being commander of one of these things?

I have said this for most of the week.  the guy needs to STFU and go home.  he may be able to coast to victory, but every time he or his surrogates open their mouth, something scary as shit comes out.

Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: paladin0 on November 01, 2008, 09:30:44 PM
Obama knows that the Republican controlled military isn't going to follow Obama's orders if they are unconstitutional. He needs a force dedicated to him that can do his dirty work.

Paladin0
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Chris on November 01, 2008, 09:51:30 PM
Each and every day, this guy scares me more and more. 

What she said.

This guy is dangerous.  His "friends" are only the tip of the iceberg, and a huge warning flare.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Rebel on November 01, 2008, 09:52:20 PM
good GOD!  is he being overly confident?  is this the real BHO coming out?

SILENCE! Pull out your prayer rug and bow down to the Messiah, (PBUH)!  :-)

Seriously, I f'n cannot stand the hubris this punk is exhibiting.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: TheSarge on November 01, 2008, 10:01:40 PM
This is a dupe folks.

Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on November 01, 2008, 11:54:05 PM
The MichelleStar! said that Barack would make us work . . . I suppose this is it.


I suppose it'd be better than the rice paddies.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: rich_t on November 02, 2008, 12:05:42 AM
Keep stocking up on guns and ammo people.  A national police force like Obama is dreaming of is socialistic through and through.

I shudder to think of the damage that this man along with a Democratic-controlled house of representatives and senate can do to this country in a short 4 years
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Chris on November 02, 2008, 12:09:41 AM
Maybe he'll give them all red shirts and berets like Chavez wears in Venezuela (Citgo, baby!).  Or he'll offer something understated -- a brown ensemble with a simple armband (made from a dirty sweatsock).
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Mr Mannn on November 02, 2008, 01:58:23 AM
I think this is a multi-purpose force.
1) it will be his end run around the 2nd Amendment.

2) A number of you are dead on. This force will do things that the US military will refuse.
This force will be staffed by the radical left. Franksolich is so right. DU primitives will have like-minded thugs with guns under their command. They don't have to be competent. No. This is a force of thugs. DU is so ready to instigate a purge.
DU idiots are the perfect expendables to man such a force. When its done, the new socialist state can kill them off, and no one will weep.
DUmmies will also be perfect to man gun grabbing squads, cause if they die, no one will care.
--->Power will go to their heads, and the primitives will eat this up.

3) Remember Ayers? His terrorists believed they would have to kill 25 million Americans to bring about the state they wanted. That is a Stalinist purge. He is still Obama's mentor, and has never been thrown under the bus. I'll bet dollars to donuts this terrorist will be part of Obama's cabinet. The only question I have is what post will he hold.

Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: formerlurker on November 02, 2008, 05:22:06 AM
Now now Obama -- LewRockwell.com will rot your brain.   Just say no.

Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 02, 2008, 05:44:33 AM
I think this is a multi-purpose force.
1) it will be his end run around the 2nd Amendment.

2) A number of you are dead on. This force will do things that the US military will refuse.
This force will be staffed by the radical left. Franksolich is so right. DU primitives will have like-minded thugs with guns under their command. They don't have to be competent. No. This is a force of thugs. DU is so ready to instigate a purge.
DU idiots are the perfect expendables to man such a force. When its done, the new socialist state can kill them off, and no one will weep.
DUmmies will also be perfect to man gun grabbing squads, cause if they die, no one will care.
--->Power will go to their heads, and the primitives will eat this up.

3) Remember Ayers? His terrorists believed they would have to kill 25 million Americans to bring about the state they wanted. That is a Stalinist purge. He is still Obama's mentor, and has never been thrown under the bus. I'll bet dollars to donuts this terrorist will be part of Obama's cabinet. The only question I have is what post will he hold.



DHS? :angryvillagers:
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 02, 2008, 08:06:05 AM
Sophisticated people in Cambodia probably laughed at the madness of Pol Pot at one time.  Later on, it wasn't so amusing.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: RightCoast on November 02, 2008, 10:58:34 AM
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just as well funded


How is the boy genius going to pay for that??
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Mr Mannn on November 02, 2008, 11:25:56 AM

How is the boy genius going to pay for that??
The boy-genius pays for nothing. WE get to pay for Obama's SS squads.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 02, 2008, 04:27:11 PM
This needs to hit DU.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Chris_ on November 02, 2008, 04:39:27 PM
The new civil military force:

(http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2003/Weather-Underground-21jul03d.jpg)
(http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2003/Weather-Underground-21jul03e.jpg)
(http://www.summeroflove.org/images/vignes/panthers.jpeg)
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on November 02, 2008, 04:41:32 PM
The new civil military force:

(http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2003/Weather-Underground-21jul03d.jpg)
(http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2003/Weather-Underground-21jul03e.jpg)
(http://www.summeroflove.org/images/vignes/panthers.jpeg)

You forgot this guy too.


(http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/photo.cms?msid=2164429)



Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Mr Mannn on November 02, 2008, 05:02:36 PM
This needs to hit DU.
They will deny it. just like they deny Cuba is a dictatorship.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: RightCoast on November 02, 2008, 07:15:53 PM
They will deny it. just like they deny Cuba is a dictatorship.

They won't deny anything - goon squads are AOK if they are left leaning "Change Fighters."
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Thor on November 02, 2008, 07:16:22 PM
Since I "sold" all of my guns, I may just have to go and acquire some more.....

 ::wink, wink::
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 02, 2008, 07:26:13 PM
Since I "sold" all of my guns, I may just have to go and acquire some more.....

 ::wink, wink::

OMFG, you owned GUNS???!!!???  What the Hell is wrong with you, did you want all the children to die???  That is just unconscionable.

 :innocent:
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: TheSarge on November 02, 2008, 07:31:18 PM
Like I said in the other thread:

Why would anyone who...as President...will take an oath to uphold the Constitution...and has a military that’s taken an oath to protect and defend the same document need a civilian (read para-military) fore to carry out “national security objectives”?

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,16239.msg193324.html#msg193324
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: rich_t on November 02, 2008, 07:36:42 PM
Like I said in the other thread:

Why would anyone who...as President...will take an oath to uphold the Constitution...and has a military that’s taken an oath to protect and defend the same document need a civilian (read para-military) fore to carry out “national security objectives”?

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,16239.msg193324.html#msg193324


Obama lies about so many other things...  As a Senator he has already taken such an oath.  So lying about it one more time if he is sworn in as POTUS won't bother him much.

SENATE OATH OF OFFICE:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: TheSarge on November 02, 2008, 07:48:27 PM
Obama lies about so many other things...  As a Senator he has already taken such an oath.  So lying about it one more time if he is sworn is a POTUS won't bother him much.

SENATE OATH OF OFFICE:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

Wonderful...so he's already guilty of dereliction of his sworn duty.  No wonder it doesn't bother him that he wants to do more of the same.
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: docstew on November 02, 2008, 08:15:16 PM

How is the boy genius going to pay for that??

it ain't that far fetched, he'll just take it from the current DOD budget... after the 25% cuts of course
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: paladin0 on November 03, 2008, 05:21:43 AM
Like I said in the other thread:

Why would anyone who...as President...will take an oath to uphold the Constitution...and has a military that’s taken an oath to protect and defend the same document need a civilian (read para-military) fore to carry out “national security objectives”?

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,16239.msg193324.html#msg193324


First, as the military votes Republican by a large margin, Obama doesn't see them as reliable for following his orders.

Second, there are restrictions (Posse Comitatus Act) on using the military inside the United States, there will be no such restrictions on Obama's gestapo.

Paladino
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: Traveshamockery on November 03, 2008, 05:40:49 AM
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Wonderful...so he's already guilty of dereliction of his sworn duty.  No wonder it doesn't bother him that he wants to do more of the same.


Aren't THEY all guilty of dereliction of sworn duty? 
Title: Re: Obama's Civilian Military Forces
Post by: EaglesWings on November 03, 2008, 07:00:34 AM
What in the world has happened to our country?  I am scared to death about all of this.....and I feel so helpless and hopeless.