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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2008 => Topic started by: Hawkgirl on October 29, 2008, 08:00:29 PM
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Anyone watch this tonight? I watched the first 3 minutes, then shut it off when he was filmed in a "presidential-like" office with a big american flag on the side. :whatever:
I think this will back-fire on him...it brings cocky to a whole new level.
WASHINGTON -- In a campaign ad aired at a cost of millions, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama promised a rescue plan for the middle class in tough times Wednesday night as he reached for victory in his 21-month quest for the presidency.
"I will not be a perfect president," Obama said in the commercial. "But I can promise you this -- I will always tell you what I think and where I stand."
Aides described the unusual ad as a final summation of Obama's campaign. They put the total cost at roughly $4 million, enough to show it simultaneously on CBS, NBC and Fox. It also was running on BET, Univision, MSNBC and TV One.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/29/obama-hits-campaign-themes-half-hour-prime-time-ad/
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IF they truly believe they are as far ahead in the polls as some of the polls suggest .... why spend $4 Million + to 'close the deal'??
What a loser.
KC
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I watched it long enough to realize it wasn't a 30-second campaign ad and turned the TV off.
You're right... cocky as hell.
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"Fidel's washing his beard. Yes, all week."
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IF they truly believe they are as far ahead in the polls as some of the polls suggest .... why spend $4 Million + to 'close the deal'??
What a loser.
KC
It's not his money, so he can spend it.....all those poor people who donated...he's spending your money like it's water..... :ohsnap: wait... he's gonna do the same to us!!.... :hammer: :censored:
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I think I reported in another thread that here in Colorado, Teh Obamessiah has bought the use of an entire channel of Dish Network, dedicated to telling us 'Obama's plan for America', 24/7 for the past 6-8 weeks or so.
I'm up here in the office writing, instead of parked downstairs, in front of my box of 500 gazillion channels of chrome-plated crap for a reason.
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Interesting bit if you think about it...
After months of campaigning, Obama offered no new proposals in the ad. Instead, he stressed his plan to offer tax cuts to the middle class, "restore the long-term health of our economy and our middle class."
firstly they say "offer" regarding the middle class tax cuts.
this opens it up for Nancy to decline.
they they say tax cuts when they are not tax cuts at all. at best they are possible exemptions, at worst they're a check for the 40% that pay no taxes.
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i watched it (the wife is an obamaton, but then again, she's from IL), and noticed how the promised cieling for the tax cuts have changed from $250K to $200K. Compared that to what I heard on Hannity today with O on tape first saying 300K, then 250K (that lasted for about a month), lately 200K, and 150K as of the last couple days per Biden... at this rate, it'll be 25K by January 21
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i watched it (the wife is an obamaton, but then again, she's from IL), and noticed how the promised cieling for the tax cuts have changed from $250K to $200K. Compared that to what I heard on Hannity today with O on tape first saying 300K, then 250K (that lasted for about a month), lately 200K, and 150K as of the last couple days per Biden... at this rate, it'll be 25K by January 21
I believe it was about 44K when he first started campaigning...after enough outcries from the "middle class", it was raised to 250K...but as one can plainly see, it is getting lower by the day.
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He should have donned a toga and filmed it at the Barackopolis. At least it would have been entertaining.
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I call it a mistake - He is supposedly ahead in most/all polls even if only by a few points - He should just queitly let the election come to Him. Unless they know that they are in serious trouble and the extra exposure was a calculated risk. Or He really is that ******* arrogant.
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I call it a mistake - He is supposedly ahead in most/all polls even if only by a few points - He should just queitly let the election come to Him. Unless they know that they are in serious trouble and the extra exposure was a calculated risk. Or He really is that ******* arrogant.
I think he's really that arrogant. I only could stand to look at a little snippet on Fox News. Even that got me sick.
Dick Morris had a good point on Hannity tonight. He said that there won't be more doctors and health care providers instantly to accomodate the flood of illegals getting that universal health care. Soooo, the elderly will probably be denied many procedures, as they'll say a 20 year old illegal will take priority.
Hope peope think beyond all that change and hope junk.
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I think this will offend and annoy a lot of people he cant afford to offend and annoy. At least I hope it will.
This kind of all pervasive You have no choice but to listen to me kind of attitude is too much Big Brother. Even dummies wont care for it.
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I think he's really that arrogant. I only could stand to look at a little snippet on Fox News. Even that got me sick.
Dick Morris had a good point on Hannity tonight. He said that there won't be more doctors and health care providers instantly to accomodate the flood of illegals getting that universal health care. Soooo, the elderly will probably be denied many procedures, as they'll say a 20 year old illegal will take priority.
Hope peope think beyond all that change and hope junk.
I think the queuing algorithm will be the Oregon model: "we can't afford your treatment but we will pay for your suicide."
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I call it a mistake - He is supposedly ahead in most/all polls even if only by a few points - He should just queitly let the election come to Him. Unless they know that they are in serious trouble and the extra exposure was a calculated risk. Or He really is that ******* arrogant.
I have to agree - I felt is was overreaching when I first heard about it - its wasteful, and creates an impression of arrogance, that could backfire.
Most folks who are ahead just try to shift into neutral and coast, but not Obama. Either he thinks he is better than all of us, he is that naive, or his victory has moved into uncertainty.
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I have to agree - I felt is was overreaching when I first heard about it - its wasteful, and creates an impression of arrogance, that could backfire.
Racist bastard! (/messianfuhrer attack mode)
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"I will not be a perfect president," Obama said in the commercial. "But I can promise you this -- I will always tell you what I think and where I stand."
he really does believe he's already president :bs:
like i keep saying, i cant wait to see what the ratings are on this stupid idea.. and i think america will be less than impressed.
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"But I can promise you this -- I will always tell you what I think and where I stand."
He is sort of honest that way -- he is a Commie and doesn't pretend otherwise. In everything else, he lies like a dog.
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I have to agree - I felt is was overreaching when I first heard about it - its wasteful, and creates an impression of arrogance, that could backfire.
Most folks who are ahead just try to shift into neutral and coast, but not Obama. Either he thinks he is better than all of us, he is that naive, or his victory has moved into uncertainty.
i think its all of the above..
and whatever happened to his grandmother? Rush reminded everybody today that we havent heard anything about her... wasnt she not supposed to make it to election day?
that whole thing was kinda weird..
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Anyone watch this tonight? I watched the first 3 minutes, then shut it off when he was filmed in a "presidential-like" office with a big american flag on the side. :whatever:
I think this will back-fire on him...it brings cocky to a whole new level.
WASHINGTON -- In a campaign ad aired at a cost of millions, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama promised a rescue plan for the middle class in tough times Wednesday night as he reached for victory in his 21-month quest for the presidency.
"I will not be a perfect president," Obama said in the commercial. "But I can promise you this -- I will always tell you what I think and where I stand."
Aides described the unusual ad as a final summation of Obama's campaign. They put the total cost at roughly $4 million, enough to show it simultaneously on CBS, NBC and Fox. It also was running on BET, Univision, MSNBC and TV One.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/29/obama-hits-campaign-themes-half-hour-prime-time-ad/
then he started off with a demonstrable lie. we already have no idea what he thinks or where he stands on anything. just by way of example, are we electing the obama that ran in the primaries, or the one that has been running since he dropped hillary? they are two completely different people. we could be about to elect someone president that we know nothing about except for what his campaign, and his campaign's mouthpiece, the MSM, is willing to tell us.
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he could be creating a massive case of "obama fatigue". he is already omnipresent in the swing states with his campaign commercials; I dunno, perhaps this will be too much. I think he is trying to knock the remaining undecideds off the fence, and some of them are probably squishy enough to fall for this, "you can trust me, I am one of you" crap that was the whole point of the infomercial.
but never underestimate what buying 30 minutes on 8 television networks (or $600,000,000) can do for you.
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thats part of the irritation.. at least with clinton you knew you got the slimeball with the great orator. we knew upfront he was a dog and couldnt keep it in his pants.
with obama.. its a total crapshoot. ive watched all of his stuff, watched his debates, read some books on him, by him.
i still have no idea who he is at this late date. he blows in the wind, depending on his audience and i cant think of a better personification of an empty suit in the political world.
and the DUers were all crying over his infomercial .. :whatever:
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he could be creating a massive case of "obama fatigue". he is already omnipresent in the swing states with his campaign commercials; I dunno, perhaps this will be too much. I think he is trying to knock the remaining undecideds off the fence, and some of them are probably squishy enough to fall for this, "you can trust me, I am one of you" crap that was the whole point of the infomercial.
but never underestimate what buying 30 minutes on 8 television networks (or $600,000,000) can do for you.
yeah, he and Michelle are so like us.. there was an article about the hand sewn feathers on her dress {from a woman in India, no less) and how she typically wears 5000 dollar dresses.
then she went on Leno and said she buys J. Crew off the internet..
do these two really believe we're that stupid? :whatever:
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thats part of the irritation.. at least with clinton you knew you got the slimeball with the great orator. we knew upfront he was a dog and couldnt keep it in his pants.
with obama.. its a total crapshoot. ive watched all of his stuff, watched his debates, read some books on him, by him.
i still have no idea who he is at this late date. he blows in the wind, depending on his audience and i cant think of a better personification of an empty suit in the political world.
and the DUers were all crying over his infomercial .. :whatever:
clinton was all about clinton, and remaining in power. so, to a large extent, he governed by focus groups and opinion polls. he never once got out in front of popular opinion and actually lead the country. obama is a true believer, I suspect. I honestly think the "redistribute the wealth" comment was a moment of unintentional honesty. this guy does have a grand utopian vision where we are all "taken care of" by the brilliant people in washington, he just knows he can't get elected talking about it.
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yeah, he and Michelle are so like us.. there was an article about the hand sewn feathers on her dress {from a woman in India, no less) and how she typically wears 5000 dollar dresses.
then she went on Leno and said she buys J. Crew off the internet..
do these two really believe we're that stupid? :whatever:
yes. in fact, we have proven that we are that stupid. we have bought everything that he has tried to sell us, from the "we just paid off our student loans" (which raises a whole different series of questions that no one is asking) to flatly impossible $250K limit on tax hikes in his tax plan, which is just a huge lie. his tax plan won't pay for itself, much less his staggeringly huge domestic agenda.
his debate comment on raising capital gains taxes, despite historical proof that it reduces federal revenue and damages the economy, because it is a "fairness issue" is another unintentional moment of clarity into the real obama agenda.
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Why does Obama need infomercials? :mental: There are too many flooding the airwaves on TV. Just turn on any channel and you will see one. I think Obama knows he could actually lose. He already has an all Obama channel. Is he that desparate????????? Obama has a huge ego.
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he really does believe he's already president :bs:
like i keep saying, i cant wait to see what the ratings are on this stupid idea.. and i think america will be less than impressed.
Well, I don't know about Americans, but members of the media elite were less than impressed - you'd think this was a Rush Limbaugh critique of the informercial, not somebody from SeeBS:
Without question, the Barack Obaminfomercial served as a very slick and powerful recitation of the biggest promises he's made as a presidential candidate. But the very bigness of his ideas is the problem: he seems blind to the concept his numbers don't add up.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/eveningnews/realitycheck/main4557520.shtml
Associated (with the Committee to Elect Barack Hussein Obama for President) Press actually fact-checked it:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are — beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
ap (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gMAwo_z4gB7dVys2jAHkJGa1IvcQD944GOGG0)
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Failure? By the messiah? From AP? This speech must have SUCKED big time, but rats will desert a sinking ship . . .
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Chris Matthews apparently creamed himself over its fantasticness. Since he is an idiot, that's probably bad for Obama.
Seriously, I'm sure the already-converted loved it. Whether it affected anyone else in a way favorable to Obama I can't say, but two-minute spots are more than I want to see from even my own candidates. Obama is better at saying nothing beautifully than anyone around, but a whole half-hour of nothing doesn't strike me as likely to bring over a bunch of people who are still holding out for a sign at this point. As far as I gather from the morning coverage, and reading between the lines of it all, it seems like the speech was indeed another half-hour of Obama worship without any substantive policy content, domestic or foreign.
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He should have filmed it in that half-animated style of 300. That would've increased his godlike qualities.
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"But I can promise you this -- I will always tell you what I think and where I stand."
I call bullshit. He hasn't done it yet. And anytime anyone tries to call him on what he REALLY is, they get shut out from access or are smeared by their minion brown-nosers in the MSM.
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Chris Matthews apparently creamed himself over its fantasticness. Since he is an idiot, that's probably bad for Obama.
Seriously, I'm sure the already-converted loved it. Whether it affected anyone else in a way favorable to Obama I can't say, but two-minute spots are more than I want to see from even my own candidates. Obama is better at saying nothing beautifully than anyone around, but a whole half-hour of nothing doesn't strike me as likely to bring over a bunch of people who are still holding out for a sign at this point. As far as I gather from the morning coverage, and reading between the lines of it all, it seems like the speech was indeed another half-hour of Obama worship without any substantive policy content, domestic or foreign.
there is a historical precedent on the whole "buy the national networks for night" exercise; ross perot tried that in 1992, and I doubt that it did him any good.
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he really does believe he's already president :bs:
like i keep saying, i cant wait to see what the ratings are on this stupid idea.. and i think america will be less than impressed.
I can tell you that the American public as a whole doesn't like presumptuous people--this is not exactly good for him. He really didn't close the deal, and the display of hubris is going to sway a good many people who might otherwise have voted for him.
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Well this plot was a failure because as of today, all of the networks are reporting a tightening in all polls and especially in the battleground states. I think this stunt may have just been the last nail in the Obama coffin. Arrogant Prick.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081030/ap_on_el_ge/fact_check_obama_ad
Rats running from sinking ship for real. :-)
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The final numbers for the Obamammercial are in...
More than 33 million people watched the Democratic presidential nominee's paid political ad Wednesday night on seven networks, delivering a bigger television audience for that time period than the usual viewership so far this season.
On an average Wednesday night, the same networks get an audience of 30.3 million people between 8 and 8:30 p.m., according to Nielsen Media Research.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/10/obamas-ad-draws.html
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I get the subtle feeling that he jumped the shark here. People have been talking about his presuptiousness, but now they got to see it entire. There seems to have been something missing in the demeanor of his supporters at work since Thursday.