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Title: Help Please -Trying to Prevent Someone From Turning To The Darkside-
Post by: Chris_ on October 28, 2008, 09:46:25 PM
Help please!   :cheersmate:

So... I'm simply at a loss, a terrible one at that.  I've a friend who has been a McCain fan from long ago.  Was enthusiastically a fan of him even at the onset of the republican primary battles.  He didn't always agree with McCain, but still respected him. 

Over the campaigns course, I've witness that enthusiasm waver, with unfortunately many of the same reasons listed as those decried by Powell.  While I may not be a particular fan of Colins, with earnest regret... I can't chide all of those accusations.

:banghead:

Once Palin was chosen as a running-mate, I witnessed a transformation.  Before, he was overwhelmed with the idea of McCain as President, rounded out with an incredibly competent, rationale, and economically savy person such as Mitt Romney.  Ardently believing that the two could revolutionize our nation into something it hasn't seen in ages, in a good way!

It's not that he dislikes Palin, quite the contrary.  He's routinely defending her from the baseless accusations lobbied by liberals, and genuinely likes her.  Just doesn't particularly feel she rounds out McCain's Whitehouse, the same way that a Mitt Romney would have. 

As the campaigns dragged out, and both candidates started clarifying their positions... I was simply shocked and a bit appalled to realize that many of the Obama/Biden positions were meshing with his.  He was even becoming a bit agitated by it, as McCain's positions started shifting more to the republican core that Bush and Rove concocted.  Positions which he didn't share.

Through it all, he was in turmoil too, as he genuinely disliked Obama.  Albeit, I think he always begrudgedly liked Biden, perhaps just a bit.  Strange as it may seem, YEARS ago, he actually noticed Obama.  Thought perhaps he could bring a change to Washington.  Sorry for the poor word choice, I still shiver at the paradox of it's near synonymous use with Obama.  As the years went on, and all we heard from the pseudo-messiah was the reiteration of galvanizing speeches... with a complete lack of follow up.  That initial belief in giving the Chicagoland'lad a chance, quickly turned to disgust.

I'm sure one vote will hardly make a difference, especially in a state that even McCain's campaign has all but abandoned.  Yet, I just can't give up, I cling onto the what-ifs' of a McCain presidency... and am compelled to try and salvage this additional vote.

So is there any rational or logical rebuttals I should bring up?  Causes for concern?  Please don't push forth rote literature, sophomoric commentary, or senselessness.  I'd really hate for this attempt, to just breed a thread that's a cesspool of venereal diseases. 

P.S.  No pun was intended with the, Darkside adjective   But on thread preview...  :lmao: I'm keeping it  F'it! If it's okay to hang an effigy of Palin but not Obama, surely this accidental phrase usage is :innocent: 
Title: Re: Help Please -Trying to Prevent Someone From Turning To The Darkside-
Post by: Rebel on October 28, 2008, 09:48:44 PM
You pick a VP by who's going to help you the most. Romney? Two rich white guys running against a black guy. Not advantageous. Palin brings something that most of the others couldn't. ...and she's damned qualified.
Title: Re: Help Please -Trying to Prevent Someone From Turning To The Darkside-
Post by: Chris_ on October 28, 2008, 09:50:22 PM
I am starting to see a trend in your posts:

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Title: Re: Help Please -Trying to Prevent Someone From Turning To The Darkside-
Post by: Jim on October 28, 2008, 09:50:43 PM
Does this person really want to leave Supreme Court nominating to BHO ?
Title: Re: Help Please -Trying to Prevent Someone From Turning To The Darkside-
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 28, 2008, 10:03:44 PM
I'm calling shenanigans.

Obama:

* backs gun control

* unrestricted abortions even if they result in infanticide

* gay marriage

* wealth redistribution

* uses racism as a political tool

* engages in campaign finance fraud

* uses law enforcement personnel for silencing dissent

* wasted $160 million on BS indoctrination schools with no improvement in academic scores

* cavorts with terrorists and racists

* lies repeatedly about his positions...assuming he actually gives specifics

* would gut the US military

* would appoint Marxists to the courts

* would strip wokers of the right to secret unionization ballots

* would reinstate the Fairness Doctrine

* has chosen a running mate to negate his lack of foreign policy experience but can barely keep from drooling on himself


Either your friend is not a republican/conservative and is a dyed in the wool lefty or something in your story is full of Barack.
Title: Re: Help Please -Trying to Prevent Someone From Turning To The Darkside-
Post by: Lauri on October 28, 2008, 10:17:47 PM
remind your friend of who Barack surrounds himself with, starting from a young age.

he wrote the forward for Ayers book.. Ayers dedicated his book.. to Satan.

this is the judgement of the leader of the Free World? he went to Berlin to give a speech to the world? is running for King of the World?

and the fact that the UN is solidly behind Obama ought to be enough said..
Title: Re: Help Please -Trying to Prevent Someone From Turning To The Darkside-
Post by: Thor on October 28, 2008, 10:20:08 PM
Furthermore, remind your friend that there IS a reason Romney didn't pursue the nomination a little more harder than he did. I'm certain that Romney will become part of McCain's cabinet  IF McCain manages to pull it off. I'm very worried at this point that we may have an Obamanation on our hands come next January.
Title: Re: Help Please -Trying to Prevent Someone From Turning To The Darkside-
Post by: Lauri on October 28, 2008, 10:23:22 PM
Furthermore, remind your friend that there IS a reason Romney didn't pursue the nomination a little more harder than he did. I'm certain that Romney will become part of McCain's cabinet  IF McCain manages to pull it off. I'm very worried at this point that we may have an Obamanation on our hands come next January.

dont give up just yet.. Obama is acting all squirrely the past few weeks. he hasnt given a press interview in over a month. and really, how can he? he doesnt want to answer those questions directly. hence the 30 minute ad tomorrow night.

two point difference is nothing..
Title: Re: Help Please -Trying to Prevent Someone From Turning To The Darkside-
Post by: Airwolf on October 28, 2008, 11:28:28 PM
IF McCain doesn't get off his ass and do something other then what he has been we will have an Obamafurher.
Title: Re: Help Please -Trying to Prevent Someone From Turning To The Darkside-
Post by: Chris_ on October 28, 2008, 11:34:40 PM
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