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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on October 27, 2008, 06:17:46 PM
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dem629 (122 posts) Mon Oct-27-08 01:06 PM
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"Be 'inclusive' to Republicans. Don't scare them off."
Those are the words of a friend of mine who believes that we're going to win, and the next step is to be diplomatic toward Repubs, work with them, etc...
I responded: "The hell with blahblahblah......
It's a really big bonfire.
Atman (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-27-08 01:10 PM
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7. After the last eight years, they need to be completely marginalized
**** 'em. We saw this start with Reagan and Gingrich, and now Nasty Newt is resurfacing. Squash them like bugs. They're (sic) ideology has been completely debunked.
It's time for a Snopes entry on "Compassionate Conservatism." It a fake!
I dunno.
Come what may--and what may come is what franksolich, and not El Stupido Supremo, wants--but come what may, franksolich plans to be around a long time.
My motto: "The same yesterday, today, tomorrow, always the same."
El Stupido Supremo can shove that up his ass and smoke it.
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Because PASSIONATE votes count more than THOUGHTFUL votes, right?
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What Atman refuses to understand is this phrase:
The pendulum always swings back.
Which means, if the Obamessiah wins, Election Night of 2010 will make Election Night of 1994 look like a minor course correction.
Also, the pendulum will keep swinging back our way, and Election Night of 2012 will see the end of the 4-year nightmare.
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I have an incredible method for pissing off liberals.
Just tell them that all opinions are NOT equal. That statement alone sends them into frothing rages on the keyboard. It matters not when you explain that an opinion devoid of facts, reasoning, and logic will never hold the same weight as one based solely on how one **feels**.
Such is the world of equality, self-esteem, and kum-ba-ya. Nevermind that when they take that mindset into the real world they get their heads handed to them, yet never really seem to understand WHY.
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What Atman refuses to understand is this phrase:
The pendulum always swings back.
Which means, if the Obamessiah wins, Election Night of 2010 will make Election Night of 1994 look like a minor course correction.
Also, the pendulum will keep swinging back our way, and Election Night of 2012 will see the end of the 4-year nightmare.
I wish I knew who I heard saying this today, but the person in question hit it dead on when they said that this country is much like an alcoholic or drug addict, and that hitting rock bottom is really the only way that some of these folks will ever recover.
Maybe we really DO need to hit rock bottom before we recover and forever rid ourselves of this debilitating enabling disease known as liberalism.
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-27-08 01:12 PM
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12. I want accountable for their crimes against this nation
All the top dogs, only then ,will I be inclusive when they recognize the crimes of their leaders.
If they are not held accountable it will be like allowing a non repented child abuser, wife beater back into the family
The only way these ****ers will be happy is if they kill everyone who isn't like them.
Stalin would be proud.
Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-27-08 01:14 PM
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17. For at least the First 100 Days...
... President Obama and the newly-strengthened Democratic Congress should IGNORE Republicans.
Get to work, get things done, get some practical solutions into place and improving the lives of the American people.
Then the "unity" will take care of itself, as people who can think and reason, who truly care about our well-being as a nation, will come aboard.
(The truly hard-core pukes, on the other hand... they're a lost cause. It's NEVER worth negotiating with someone who's only "joy" in life comes from hurting you.)
So, how'd that work for ya in 2006?
chiefofclarinet (411 posts) Mon Oct-27-08 01:27 PM
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37. If we're talking about neocons/religious crazies, then yes, we need to crush it
Between Reagan and both Bushes, these groups have torn the nation in two and thrown decency under the bus.
However, there are the handful of moderate Republicans in government that will listen to reason. We need to embrace them, because having a one party system does not work.
The other part is that we need to keep ordinary Americans on our side. If we go incredibly vicious on the moderate GOP, we will love a lot of the independents and moderates we need. If we concentrate it on the Bush administration, we won't get any backlash except by the crazies, which already hate us.
So, if we build a coalition with those that want to deny our country our basic rights for their power, we have lost everything that we as Democrats stand for. However, if we build a coalition with moderate Republicans that works towards progress for America, then history will look kindly on us.
Who is a religious crazy? Anyone who believes in religion.
political_Dem (372 posts) Mon Oct-27-08 02:43 PM
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54. One question.
If it were the Nazis instead of the Republicans, would people ask to extend a hand to them in the same fashion?
onetiredmom (31 posts) Mon Oct-27-08 02:46 PM
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55. When you say crush the Republicans,
I think of the people in my neighborhood, the people I work with, the people at my church. They are not in-your-face type of Repubs, they don't put signs in their yards, they don't beat you over the head with a Bible, they don't have alot of interest in "politics". They vote Repub for many reasons and they are just quietly living their lives. Do you include those people in the crushing?
The following is from memory so my wording is not exact: One of my first posts here asked about many Repubs who vote for Obama this time are really "turning Dem" or voting for the person and will go back to voting Repub if they like the 2012 candidate. I mentioned that in my reading of this site before I signed up, I read several posts like this one where Repubs should be destroyed and crushed. The replies said things like that weren't said. But if outsiders find this site and start reading, why would they want to come over to a side that says things about them like that?
frickaline (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-27-08 02:56 PM
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59. Doesn't the pendulum usually swing back with similar force?
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 02:56 PM by frickaline
If we become unreasonable don't we create our own demise just as the Bush administration did?
78. Umm - we ARE "the pendulum" - The REPUKES have villified and treated us like SHIT for years,
and now the pendululm HAS swung back - TO US!
Last time around, ALL the "last times around" - we Dems WERE nice, and EACH TIME, the repukes tried treated us like DIRT. DIRT.
With CONTEMPT - and reveled in it all!
So now, that they and their policies have been shown to be the VILE, HATEFUL morons they TRULY are, NOW some imagined "they" are calling for US to be "civil" and "nice" towards THEM!
NO. ****ING. WAY.
My true feelings? I think we should strive for the actions of the Russian and French revolutions aftermath as examples. Sorry if that chafes your collective butts...
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The leftist over reach will be breathtaking.
I just hope that it can be stalled until folks shake the star struck looks out of their eyes and realize that these folks don`t want them to succed and prosper but to be entrapped in desperation depending on only them for their livlihood.
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Is there some reason why anyone cares what a bunch of looney libs, who routinely get kicked to the curb every 2 years after they've been used, really says?
Hey DUmmies, you're good for a few laughs, that's always been the case, and that'll always be the case. Nothing more. Once again, you dolts are going to learn the hard way. Fine with me.
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I'm guessing onetiredmom is not long for the DUmp. Over/under line currently has her at 3 hours before she gets TS'ed.
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Oh my. Have I been asleep and it's really a week from Wednesday already?
My, my. The Little Goons think Obama Hussein is a sure thing. There is nothing in reality to bolster their claim to automatic victory. There isn't even anything to back up their idea that this election will be a steamroller.
BTW, John McCain will be the next president of the United States. The congressional democrats will not see a big increase in their numbers. The Little Goons will be distraught and in a rage.
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Atman (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-27-08 01:10 PM
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7. After the last eight years, they need to be completely marginalized
Bitter much TexasToast?
What you fail to realize is that a sniveling spineless appeaser like you gets to go to the head of the line into the camps that you want to send what amounts to the majority of the country to.
Marxist Dictators tend to cull the weakest and easiest to eliminate from the herd first.
That's you.
They figure that if you're willing to undermine the country on their behalf...you'll do it again the first time you start not liking them.
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(The truly hard-core pukes, on the other hand... they're a lost cause. It's NEVER worth negotiating with someone who's only "joy" in life comes from hurting you.)
Project much?