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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: tuolumnejim on October 22, 2008, 05:37:02 PM
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Well for one thing, in a society someone actually needs to work. :doh:
Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4286287)
endarkenment (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-22-08 02:39 PM
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Why not split the Republic in two?
It seems to me that we are two nations, two cultures, two world views, hopelessly locked into a failed marriage. When Governor Palin spoke about the 'pro-america' parts of the country, the regions that support 30 years of Republican Failure and want More, she spoke from her heart. In her world view, her supporters are the 'real americans' and the rest of us are not.
For the last month we have watched as the failed McCain Palin Campaign has toured the country fostering hate and divisiveness, positioning this election as 'us' against 'them', not as a contest of ideas and issues, but of otherness. There are real americans and then there are those others who are voting for the socialist terrorist muslim n* Obama. The campaign has also pre-emptively set the stage for declaring the results fraudulent with their bogus Acorn issue.
How does such a campaign not result in a dysfunctional Republic as an end result? How do the losers of this election, not declare the results null and void?
So why continue with this nonsense? Why not accept that the divisions are real and irreconcilable? Shouldn't we be discussing how the separation would work?
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For the last month we have watched as the failed McCain Palin Campaign has toured the country fostering hate and divisiveness
To a libtard, anyone who disagrees with communism is "fostering hate."
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I would like nothing better than to separate the wheat from the chafe.....but
is it beyond the Little Goons' comprehension to understand that it is the worker bees who feed the hive. Without we dedicated capitalists, there would be no welfare state?
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There are real americans and then there are those others who are voting for the socialist terrorist muslim n* Obama.
At least the DUmmy can accurately identify his candidate.
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I would like nothing better than to separate the wheat from the chafe.....but
is it beyond the Little Goons' comprehension to understand that it is the worker bees who feed the hive. Without we dedicated capitalists, there would be no welfare state?
When there are more people in the cart than pulling it, there is a lot to be said for just stopping pulling and telling everyone to get the hell out.
I don't know where to locate the lazy ones -- The desert states are all pretty much red (as is of course Alaska). Mayve we put them all between California and Hawaii? Or NY and Puerto Rico?
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ALL FOR IT! We take the Southeast, the Midwest, San Diego, and Alaska. :rocker2:
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2004 (http://electoral-vote.com/evp2004/dec/dec31.html)
I'm fine with letting them have the NorthEast, Illinois, and California. We can just keep "the flyover country." :hyper: :-)
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We can just divide it red/blue by county. Then sell them potatoes for a buck apiece, coal for $600/ton, wood for $20/board, beef by the ounce....
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2004 (http://electoral-vote.com/evp2004/dec/dec31.html)
I'm fine with letting them have the NorthEast, Illinois, and California. We can just keep "the flyover country." :hyper: :-)
No we get San Diego, Oceanside, Kitsap pennisula..........they can have Massatwoshits and NYC.
So let's see.............
Atlantic Fleet, Norflok.....check
Pacific Fleet, San diego.....check
82nd Airborn, Fayetnam......check
101st Airborn, Tacoma.......check
Bangor Subbase, Silverdale.....check
Kings Bay, Swampland.......check
Ft. Gordon, GA..........check
West Coast MEU's, Oceanside......check
East Coast MEU's, jacksonville.......check
Do I need to continue.........................you see dumbass poo flingers. The places with all the really big guns are in those red areas.
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-22-08 02:39 PM
Original message
Why not split the Republic in two?
Because without a military or anyone working and stimulating your economy and relying on a Socialist Dictator for your every need...we'd retake you and make you a conquered territory three days after you split from the rest of the U.S.
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Atlantic Fleet, Norflok.....check
Pacific Fleet, San diego.....check
82nd Airborn, Fayetnam......check
101st Airborn, Tacoma.......check
Bangor Subbase, Silverdale.....check
Kings Bay, Swampland.......check
Ft. Gordon, GA..........check
West Coast MEU's, Oceanside......check
East Coast MEU's, jacksonville.......check
That's cool and all, but the 101st is a little further down the road from Tacoma. I'd say about 2000 miles Southeast in Clarksville, Tn. :tongue:
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2004 (http://electoral-vote.com/evp2004/dec/dec31.html)
I'm fine with letting them have the NorthEast, Illinois, and California. We can just keep "the flyover country." :hyper: :-)
Make that Crook County/Chicago only. In central Illinois, we have quite a few conservatives.
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Here's how we split the nation evenly... We divide it between those in THE CAMPS and those who are not. :fuelfire:
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You know, the primitive who originally lit this bonfire was Freudianly revealing.
I thought the Big Zero's supposed to be the "uniter."
I thought the Big Zero already has the election in the bag.
If the Big Zero already has it in the bag, and is a "uniter," what's this deal about splitting up the country?
Methinks the primitives are starting to get nervous.
And with very good reason.
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I'm for it. Of, course returning to a true republic of republics would be better, but since we can't get there from here an amicable split would be better.
Just let me get the hell out of Maryland first.
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I'm for it. Of, course returning to a true republic of republics would be better, but since we can't get there from here an amicable split would be better.
Just let me get the hell out of Maryland first.
With me and my family the Hell out of the People's Republik of Noo Yawk.
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With me and my family the Hell out of the People's Republik of Noo Yawk.
I will be right behind you neighbor. :cheersmate:
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Since there's some Democrats and liberals I can stomach (as friends, not anyone I'd vote for), this might be too drastic.
I always liked my thought about shipping all of the primitives to Vermont, which has been irretrievably ruined anyway, and getting all of the decent and civilized people out of that state.
A "transfer of populations," something frequently done by primitive icons such as Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Lenin, Ho, Fidel, the little guy up there in North Korea, Saddam Hussein, the crazy guy in Teheran, Mugabe, &c., &c., &c.
So surely the primitives wouldn't have any problems with this.
And then after all the primitives are collected in Vermont, and all the decent and civilized people out, tying the state behind a barge to tow it through the St. Lawrence Seaway out into the ocean, after which it would be docked in Cuba or North Korea.
This would create a big lake, and all the decent and civilized people who once lived in Vermont would be recompensed with prime lakefront real-estate in New York, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire.
Everybody'd be better off, and happier.
Or, failing that, given that Vermont has been irretrievably ruined anyway, while the fragile ecosystem of Nevada still has a chance to survive, moving all the decent and civilized people out of Vermont, and then using that state as a testing-ground for nuclear weapons, giving the fragile ecosystem in Nevada a chance to recover.
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I say we give them whatever region they want. We declare war on their sector, take them all as prisoners, execute them for war crime and live happily ever after.
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You know, the primitive who originally lit this bonfire was Freudianly revealing.
I thought the Big Zero's supposed to be the "uniter."
Dem nominee Il Duce was a failure at community organizing even when he had the community all pulling for him to be successful. Something tells me he won't have that in his favor should he become prez, an advantage that he still could not use to be successful even back then.
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Lets see, college professors, the unwilling to work intellectual elite and all welfare recipients in one place and the rest in another.....Won't work......the smell from the dead, starved bodies would carry across the borders for miles and miles.
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Well, at least they have the right VP candidate. That was Biden's solution to Iraq. :whatever: :mental:
For the record, I'm against it. I'm from a red county in a blue state. I don't feel like moving. You guys don't have decent scrapple, cheesesteaks, or hoagies.
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Well, at least they have the right VP candidate. That was Biden's solution to Iraq. :whatever: :mental:
For the record, I'm against it. I'm from a red county in a blue state. I don't feel like moving. You guys don't have decent scrapple, cheesesteaks, or hoagies.
What are those things?
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Well, at least they have the right VP candidate. That was Biden's solution to Iraq. :whatever: :mental:
For the record, I'm against it. I'm from a red county in a blue state. I don't feel like moving. You guys don't have decent scrapple, cheesesteaks, or hoagies.
Actually, decent cheesesteaks have become available in the Heartland in recent years, they haven't quite figured out that Swiss isn't Provolone at most places yet, but give them time.
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What are those things?
Po-Boys. I don't have a f'n clue what Scrapple is. Maybe some kinda generic board game? :-)
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Po-Boys. I don't have a f'n clue what Scrapple is. Maybe some kinda generic board game? :-)
It's made out of leftover parts. Take all the known real cuts of meat and the bones out of a pig, and put what's left through a blender with some pepper, then extrude the resulting paste into bricks that look kinda like large grey-brown tofu chunks. Slice it and fry it. When the slices go to about half size they are done. Kinda like that.
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It's made out of leftover parts. Take all the known real cuts of meat and the bones out of a pig, and put what's left through a blender with some pepper, then extrude the resulting paste into bricks that look kinda like large grey-brown tofu chunks. Slice it and fry it. When the slices go to about half size they are done. Kinda like that.
It didn't taste bad until I knew what was in it. Never ate it again.
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What are those things?
scrapple (http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/sleuth/0998/scrapple.html)
Hoagie (http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/HoagieSubmarinePoBoy.htm)
My uncle Johnnie was at the card game where the hoagie was invented. Not a bouncy.
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pork mush
It's like sausage without the casing. Sort of. I've never actually eaten any, but I did see it once. Kinda like Bigfoot.
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It's made out of leftover parts. Take all the known real cuts of meat and the bones out of a pig, and put what's left through a blender with some pepper, then extrude the resulting paste into bricks that look kinda like large grey-brown tofu chunks. Slice it and fry it. When the slices go to about half size they are done. Kinda like that.
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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It's like sausage without the casing. Sort of. I've never actually eaten any, but I did see it once. Kinda like Bigfoot.
If you we like me and raised in the south, you were raised on sausage patty's, not links.
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Like many things, it's much better than it sounds! A delicacy, in fact. :-)
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It's made out of leftover parts. Take all the known real cuts of meat and the bones out of a pig, and put what's left through a blender with some pepper, then extrude the resulting paste into bricks that look kinda like large grey-brown tofu chunks. Slice it and fry it. When the slices go to about half size they are done. Kinda like that.
Sounds like Souse, AKA Head Cheese.
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Yeah, roughly similar as far as the ingredients go except it's more than the head. Head cheese I've seen is usually chunks of meat in a gelatin matrix though, scrapple is all ground up so fine that there are no identifiable meat fibers in it.
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We can just divide it red/blue by county. Then sell them potatoes for a buck apiece, coal for $600/ton, wood for $20/board, beef by the ounce....
In order to SELL them anything, they have to have something of VALUE to BUY with. I'm sorry, but long-winded screeds from a s/he/it panther in a moonbat's body, and portraits of the Blessed Virgin in elephant excrement just don't hold a whole lot of value for me.
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In order to SELL them anything, they have to have something of VALUE to BUY with. I'm sorry, but long-winded screeds from a s/he/it panther in a moonbat's body, and portraits of the Blessed Virgin in elephant excrement just don't hold a whole lot of value for me.
Buy home made hash pipes, Macrame pot holders, earthen ewers, hand woven blankets not tainted by the pox, pastel water colored handpainted **cough-cough** art and such.
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In order to SELL them anything, they have to have something of VALUE to BUY with. I'm sorry, but long-winded screeds from a s/he/it panther in a moonbat's body, and portraits of the Blessed Virgin in elephant excrement just don't hold a whole lot of value for me.
Well, there's always high-quality porno movies, they'll probably still have that corralled.
:cheersmate:
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Sounds like Souse, AKA Head Cheese.
Double gross.
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.....scrapple is all ground up so fine that there are no identifiable meat fibers in it.
My late paternal ancestor, who came from far northwestern Pennsylvania, used to dine on this out here in Nebraska. It's my understanding scrapple is a dish from central southeastern Pennsylvania, so I have no idea how this happened.
He also poured syrup on it.
Myself, I never partook.
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Buy home made hash pipes, Macrame pot holders, earthen ewers, hand woven blankets not tainted by the pox, pastel water colored handpainted **cough-cough** art and such.
All from a little dunghole place I know in Tiburon, Ca. :-)
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How do they plan to feed all the "blue peeps" who think they don't have to work to eat? How much food can ya grow in a city?
BTW...I grew up on liver mush....how bad could scrapple be?
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Well, at least they have the right VP candidate. That was Biden's solution to Iraq. :whatever: :mental:
For the record, I'm against it. I'm from a red county in a blue state. I don't feel like moving. You guys don't have decent scrapple, cheesesteaks, or hoagies.
Yeah, but we have hog's head cheese, grits, and liver & lights. That would more than make up for the loss. :-)
Taverner (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-22-08 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #12
30. Most of "them" live off of "us"
We're the ones with the jobs
They're the ones on welfare
Yet they're the ones who complain about taxes
And we're the ones who pull our own weight
LMAO :rotf:
Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-22-08 11:15 AM
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40. HOW TO SPLIT THE COUNTRY
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 11:16 AM by Ezlivin
Dear Red States:
We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren't aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all of the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly but to give you a clear pictures: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs.
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How long do you think those businesses and entrepreneurs will stay there under a 90% Top Marginal Rate?
Something tells me you haven't thought this through. :mental:
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-22-08 11:15 AM
Response to Original message
40. HOW TO SPLIT THE COUNTRY
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 11:16 AM by Ezlivin
Dear Red States:
We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren't aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all of the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly but to give you a clear pictures: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs.
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...but no military to ensure that it stays yours... *snicker*
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-22-08 11:15 AM
40. HOW TO SPLIT THE COUNTRY
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 11:16 AM by Ezlivin
Dear Red States:
We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren't aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all of the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly but to give you a clear pictures: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs.
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You get Harvard, we get Ole Miss, Emory, Tulane, Vanderbilt, Rice, Millsaps, Georgia Tech, VMI, The Citadel, Wake Forest, Duke, Florida, and all the other good schools. Cool.
We also get all of the entrepreneurs since they'll be flocking to our country to get away from your excessive taxation that you'll need to pay for your womb to tomb programs. We get Coca-Cola, Bell South, Home Depot, and many, many others.
You can keep the f'n Statue of Liberty. Someone should have scrubbed the words off of her years ago. We're tired of taking the sick, poor, old immigrants of the world. ....now they're your problem.
You get Stem Cell research? Fine, we get the CDC.
Oh, and the best beaches? Tell ya what, if you think that it's a damn good thing you idiots ARE leaving. New England beaches suck. California beaches? Keep'em, along with the Great Whites. We'll keep Destin, Pensacola, Panama City, Clearwater beach, Miami beach, Daytona beach, Hilton Head, and Myrtle Beach.
Sounds like a plan.
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The only problem I see with their division is the loss of Wrigley Field and the Cubbies. They can keep the rest of Chicago, but I want my Cubbies!
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The only problem I see with their division is the loss of Wrigley Field and the Cubbies. They can keep the rest of Chicago, but I want my Cubbies!
No problem: Just bring'em with you when you come down south. I think they'll be an opening in Atlanta after all the shifting is done.
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The only problem I see with their division is the loss of Wrigley Field and the Cubbies. They can keep the rest of Chicago, but I want my Cubbies!
They would also get the Detroit Lions. We'd get the Titans :bow: