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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: MrsSmith on October 20, 2008, 08:10:26 PM
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-20-08 08:23 PM
Original message (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7537163)
A McCain "Win" Will Be Theft, Resistance Is Planned
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If your television declares John McCain the president elect on the evening of November 4th, your television will be lying. You should immediately pick up your pre-packed bags and head straight to the White House in Washington, D.C., which we will surround and shut down until this attempt at a third illegitimate presidency is reversed. { :o :lmao:}
A McCain "win" will not be illegitimate because I disagree with his policies, but because he himself has rendered it illegitimate. He and his campaign and allied supporters have sought to illegally remove hundreds of thousands of voters from the rolls, fraudulently registered people as Republicans without their knowledge and against their will, obstructed voter registration drives, falsely warned students against voting where they attend school, falsely accused community groups of voter registration fraud, falsely alleged the widespread existence of voter fraud, and encouraged supporters to falsely believe McCain's opponent is a foreign terrorist through speeches, recorded phone messages, and flyers. Already in early voting in a number of states there have been cases of votes on electronic machines visibly flipping to McCain or McKinney when intended for Obama. We will see McCain supporters on November 4th challenging people's right to vote, seeking to force people to vote on provisional ballots, and seeking to have provisional ballots discarded. And we will see electronic vote counts wildly out of step with the most recent polls, although not with exit polls -- which we will be denied any access to unless they have been "adjusted" to match the official counts.
Inciting your supporters to violence with racist and religious lies about your opponent, effectively alleging treason on absolutely no basis, should be enough, alone, to disqualify a campaign { :rotf: }for the presidency of the United States. Working to block voters from registering should be enough on its own. Any of the dozens of creative forms of vote suppression currently being used by the Republicans should be enough. And allowing votes to be counted on completely unverifiable machines owned and controlled by corporations allied with your party should make the results illegitimate even if plausible. If McCain is declared the "winner," it will not be plausible, but at this point he has so disgraced himself and our electoral system that he is no longer a legitimate candidate for president regardless of what the polls (themselves fallible, but all we've got) say just before election day. Too many people have already been denied the opportunity to even push the buttons and have their votes miscounted. Too much incendiary slander has been let loose. Too much visible vote flipping has already been documented.
If Obama officially wins, McCain is likely to challenge it, charging the Obama campaign with some of the very crimes engaged in by McCain himself. Our reaction should be exactly the same in the event of a McCain challenge as in the event of a McCain "victory." We should not sit back for even a split second and wonder how it will work out. We should not try to organize a plan on the spur of the moment to travel to key battleground states. We should be prepared already to immediately travel to Washington, D.C., head straight for the White House, occupy Lafayette Square Park, the Ellipse, and surrounding streets, block entrances, and shut the place down until Obama is recognized as the president elect or we are guaranteed a credible election with universal registration and hand-counted paper ballots. { :kumbaya: :angryvillagers: :kumbaya: }
We may be there for days or weeks or months. But we must be there. We must be there by the millions. We must show each other, and the nation, and the world that we have had enough, that we will not stand for one more stolen election, that we will not give in to fear, lies, theft, and intimidation. If they choose to attack our nonviolent gathering of citizens, let them do it right in front of George W. Bush's White House with the world's media watching. We will not back down. { :o}
I'm not hoping it comes to this, of course. If it doesn't because the official election results are credible and just, we should celebrate and prepare to lobby our government for real change. But if resistance does not develop because people are too scared and obedient to act, then you'll still be glad you packed ahead of time, and you might want to look into tickets to Canada.
:blah: :tinfoil2: :blah: :tinfoil:
:bwah:
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So let me get this straight. If Obama wins, the election and balloting are correct. If McCain wins, it was stolen.
Perhaps we should alert the secret service to this plot to have millions of dummies (okay, maybe ten of them) descend on D.C. in protest with their tents, suitcases, and grills or whatever else a dummie would bring to a protest.
:couch: :couch: :couch: :couch: :couch:
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It looks to have been purged from the DUmp.
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Link Fixed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7537163
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I love it when they act all tough and pretend their actions really mean something.... :mental:
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What an idiotic load of horse muffins. :whatever:
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Welllll,
It'll be kind of cold out there, and this is a bad time for me, but I'll be there in spirit! Put my name on a sign! /DU mode
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Link Fixed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7537163
:banghead: :banghead: Who would have thought one too few ] would mess everything up?
Thanks!
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:banghead: :banghead: Who would have thought one too few ] would mess everything up?
Thanks!
I've done enough computer programming in my time to know exactly how much pain a missing ] , } or ) can be...
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santamargarita (480 posts) Mon Oct-20-08 08:53 PM
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15. I'm ready for a fight and I mean fight!
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KathieG (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-20-08 08:59 PM
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17. I've said this before...we can charter buses to get to DC if we have to.
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-20-08 09:14 PM
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19. I highly recommend machetes....
At least a couple of the DUmpmonkies are calling for armed rebellion if McCain wins. It seems like a case of treason to me.
(http://i00.twenga.com/v/01/69/60169vb.png)
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So let me get this straight. If Obama wins, the election and balloting are correct. If McCain wins, it was stolen.
Perhaps we should alert the secret service to this plot to have millions of dummies (okay, maybe ten of them) descend on D.C. in protest with their tents, suitcases, and grills or whatever else a dummie would bring to a protest.
:couch: :couch: :couch: :couch: :couch:
Indeed - every election where the conservative wins=stolen
if the lib wins its the will of the people.
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It would be worth it just to watch the nightly news with coverage of the Smelly Cheetos Brigade getting their asses kicked by the SS and the 3rd ID.
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It would be worth it just to watch the nightly news with coverage of the Smelly Cheetos Brigade getting their asses kicked by the SS and the 3rd ID.
I'd almost bet that if they couldn't spin the rioting/response as martyrs for the socialist cause being repressed by jack-booted thugs, the nightly news would just as soon not show it all, returning you to your regularly scheduled broadcast of The Teletubbies go to Prison.
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demdog78 (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-20-08 10:39 PM
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27. Easy everyone!
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 10:41 PM by demdog78
Do not forget the whole world is watching... This is no time for violence... And suggestions like machetes and "party favors" does not make us as Democrats or DU look very good.
I agree, if the worst happens we must march, but let's not get carried away. If you think for one minute that the government doesn't monitor this site... Well, we all know better and I would hate for anyone on here to get in trouble for suggesting violence.
To the first bolded part, no it doesn't and too late. :-)
And the second bolded part, thats what I really want see. :rotf:
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Welllll,
It'll be kind of cold out there, and this is a bad time for me, but I'll be there in spirit! Put my name on a sign! /DU mode
Have someone put a picture of your hands on a protest sign. That should show them! [/ DU mode]
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At least a couple of the DUmpmonkies are calling for armed rebellion if McCain wins. It seems like a case of treason to me.
(http://i00.twenga.com/v/01/69/60169vb.png)
Nawwww, they would have to leave their moms basements first.
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IOW, if we don;t get things our way we will WAAAAHHHHH like we always have.
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Have someone put a picture of your hands on a protest sign. That should show them! [/ DU mode]
H5 for reading my mind . . .
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Indeed - every election where the conservative wins=stolen
if the lib wins its the will of the people.
Yeah, isn't that convenient? And in an environment no less where shill organizations for Obama are at the very least SUSPECTED of fraudulantly registering people. What we see are the useful idiots at DU--no doubt about that.
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put all of our names on a poster board that way those of us who won't make it can be there in spirit. /DU
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I love it when they act all tough and pretend their actions really mean something.... :mental:
What actions? They only talk about actions. They were going to surround the White House lots of times (at least once while all wearing "V for Vendetta" costumes), but never did.
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Welllll,
It'll be kind of cold out there, and this is a bad time for me, but I'll be there in spirit! Put my name on a sign! /DU mode
My brain hurts now after trying to find a pic of that. So much stupidity. I found this, though. Anyone remember this?
(http://www.seedsofdoubt.com/distressedamerican/images/Crawford/Crawford34.jpg)
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My brain hurts now after trying to find a pic of that. So much stupidity. I found this, though. Anyone remember this?
(http://www.seedsofdoubt.com/distressedamerican/images/Crawford/Crawford34.jpg)
Oh my.
One of the long-ago mausoleumed primitives that sort of faded away in the memory.
Anybody know what the Dysfunctional American's been up to lately, at least the past couple of years?
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It would be worth it just to watch the nightly news with coverage of the Smelly Cheetos Brigade getting their asses kicked by the SS and the 3rd ID.
3rd ID is kinda busy in the ME at the moment. I believe that the 2nd is available,
3rd ID is my old unit. :cheersmate:(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/3rdArmy.jpg)
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Oh my.
One of the long-ago mausoleumed primitives that sort of faded away in the memory.
Anybody know what the Dysfunctional American's been up to lately, at least the past couple of years?
The last place I saw little Bradley was at the Rabbi's Yesheva.
I think he hangs out at Big Jerry's too.
Where ever there is a haven for "people too crazy for DU" you'll find our erstwhile Teachers Assistant.
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:blah: :tinfoil2: :blah: :tinfoil:
:bwah:
I absolutely love when they get like this! Makes it even more funny when they react to McCain winning! DU may just fold in on itself that night if it happens! :rotf:
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I absolutely love when they get like this! Makes it even more funny when they react to McCain winning! DU may just fold in on itself that night if it happens! :rotf:
Then maybe we want a Obamessiah victory next month. Just to keep the DU from folding in on itself, and becoming a black hole of stupid, like the idiots were worried we'd be making at that new particle accellerator last month.
meh.
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One tombstone coming up?
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-21-08 11:16 AM
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109. This is paranoid, inflammatory gobbledy-gook
A McCain "win" will not be illegitimate because I disagree with his policies, but because he himself has rendered it illegitimate.
In your opinion. Nobody has elected David Swanson the sole judge of what constitutes legitimacy in terms of election outcomes.
If McCain is declared the winner and it can be shown with real evidence that the result was due to fraud, that would be the time to pack bags and hit the streets.
Shame on you, David Swanson. You have here on DU an audience of sensitive, nervous people here who have been subjected to years of allegations of election fraud, never proved; people who spend way too much of their time allowing TV talking heads and the Blogosphere to keep them in a near panic; and you come in as a Pied Piper of doom spewing wild speculation about an imaginable but extremely unlikely outcome from events that have not yet taken place.
Well written post as usual, but I give you a 2 out of 10 on rant content.
Please do document any crimes that Republicans have committed which would call for banning the party.
BanTheGOP (67 posts) Tue Oct-21-08 11:44 AM
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114. This is WHY the republican party MUST be banned...
...because it is obvious...OBVIOUS!...that there is NO REASON WHATSOEVER that the republican party has ANY legal standing to exist as a political entity anymore. With the provable and documentable illegal activities going back to Goldwater, we have watched, in horror, an organization morph from a political party with a bad, bad message into the most destructive, insidious, and blatantly inhumane organization of criminals and despots in the HISTORY of the planet!
Bottom line: I can NOT RATIONALLY listen to ANY discourse put out by a republican source. I cannot even IMAGINE why we let them have any say in society.
When we take over the congress and the presidency, the FIRST order of business is to COMPLETELY CUT OFF all political discourse by the republican party, because it is NOT about politics, but about the need to steal from the vast majority of the people and transfer the wealth to the elite republicans. We MUST MAKE THIS JOB ONE!!
From THERE, we can indict, incarcerate, convict, and imprison every republican officer that we can get our hands on. Finally, we MUST INVALIDATE the republican party, the biggest disgrace in the HISTORY of the planet. We have enough diversity of thought within the Democratic, Socialist, Green, Peace and Freedom, and other progressive parties to ensure a rich, political exchange of ideas in its proper format.
BAN the republican party...NOW!!
OTOH there have been some documented treasonous activities by Dems.
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Slackmaster is a strong gun rights person. My opinion is that he is a well established mole. :uhsure:
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BanTheGOP (67 posts) Tue Oct-21-08 11:44 AM
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114. This is WHY the republican party MUST be banned...
...because it is obvious...OBVIOUS!...that there is NO REASON WHATSOEVER that the republican party has ANY legal standing to exist as a political entity anymore. With the provable and documentable illegal activities going back to Goldwater, we have watched, in horror, an organization morph from a political party with a bad, bad message into the most destructive, insidious, and blatantly inhumane organization of criminals and despots in the HISTORY of the planet!
Bottom line: I can NOT RATIONALLY listen to ANY discourse put out by a republican source. I cannot even IMAGINE why we let them have any say in society.
When we take over the congress and the presidency, the FIRST order of business is to COMPLETELY CUT OFF all political discourse by the republican party, because it is NOT about politics, but about the need to steal from the vast majority of the people and transfer the wealth to the elite republicans. We MUST MAKE THIS JOB ONE!!
From THERE, we can indict, incarcerate, convict, and imprison every republican officer that we can get our hands on. Finally, we MUST INVALIDATE the republican party, the biggest disgrace in the HISTORY of the planet. We have enough diversity of thought within the Democratic, Socialist, Green, Peace and Freedom, and other progressive parties to ensure a rich, political exchange of ideas in its proper format.
BAN the republican party...NOW!!
I smell mole shit, lol. :fuelfire:
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The original post was not written by a Little DU Goon. It's from AfterDowningStreetMemo.com (or whatever). I read it early this morning.
Didn't we hear this same crap in 2004?
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One tombstone coming up?
Please do document any crimes that Republicans have committed which would call for banning the party.
OTOH there have been some documented treasonous activities by Dems.
Fricking moron....good grief.... :mental: :mental: :mental: :mental: :mental: :loser: :loser: :loser:
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3rd ID is kinda busy in the ME at the moment. I believe that the 2nd is available,
3rd ID is my old unit. :cheersmate:(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/3rdArmy.jpg)
Cool. I';m sure some of my old friends in the 101st would love a part in the action too.