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Title: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 20, 2008, 05:55:58 PM

this is a much, MUCH, MUCH bigger deal than powell, because adelman is a bona fide conservative . . . . this is from a column in the
blog section of the new yorker. 

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Adelman and I exchanged e-mails today about his decision. He asked rhetorically,

    Why so, since my views align a lot more with McCain’s than with Obama’s? And since I truly dread the notion of a Democratic president, Democratic House, and hugely Democratic Senate?

    Primarily for two reasons, those of temperament and of judgment.

    When the economic crisis broke, I found John McCain bouncing all over the place. In those first few crisis days, he was impetuous, inconsistent, and imprudent; ending up just plain weird. Having worked with Ronald Reagan for seven years, and been with him in his critical three summits with Gorbachev, I’ve concluded that that’s no way a president can act under pressure.

    Second is judgment. The most important decision John McCain made in his long campaign was deciding on a running mate.

    That decision showed appalling lack of judgment. Not only is Sarah Palin not close to being acceptable in high office—I would not have hired her for even a mid-level post in the arms-control agency. But that selection contradicted McCain’s main two, and best two, themes for his campaign—Country First, and experience counts. Neither can he credibly claim, post-Palin pick.

    I sure hope Obama is more open, centrist, sensible—dare I say, Clintonesque—than his liberal record indicates, than his cooperation with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid portends. If not, I will be even more startled by my vote than I am now.

More (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/georgepacker/2008/10/not-quite-colin.html)
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: formerlurker on October 20, 2008, 06:00:34 PM
 because adelman is a bona fide conservative

If he is even considering endorsing Obama then he most certainly is not. 
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Carl on October 20, 2008, 06:05:51 PM
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I sure hope Obama is more open, centrist, sensible—dare I say, Clintonesque—than his liberal record indicates, than his cooperation with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid portends.

This is just one of the stupidest damned things anybody could say....I hope that this person in real life is nothing at all like he has been in ,uhm...real life.

Someone explain what kind of sense that makes or are we witnessing a bunch of bureaucrats polishing up their resumes?
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 20, 2008, 06:07:44 PM

it looks like mr. adelman did indeed have a falling out with the administration in 2006, and it seems to have escaped my notice.  but having a stalwart like adelman endorse obama (fer chrissakes) is a total kick in the shorts.
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Jim on October 20, 2008, 06:37:38 PM
because adelman is a bona fide conservative

If he is even considering endorsing Obama then he most certainly is not. 




wonder what job he's been promised ?
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Lacarnut on October 20, 2008, 06:54:21 PM
Never heard of him. Powell does a Pro Quid Pro and this turkey jumps on the bandwagon also. So what.
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: miskie on October 20, 2008, 06:55:43 PM
Im not moved by this at all, honestly. Id say 95% of people have no idea who he is, so it wont matter much.
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 20, 2008, 08:38:53 PM
Im not moved by this at all, honestly. Id say 95% of people have no idea who he is, so it wont matter much.


 :agree:

Ken who? :confused:
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Jim on October 20, 2008, 08:43:08 PM
:agree:

Ken who? :confused:



I do know who he is but I will concur that most won't.
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: DixieBelle on October 20, 2008, 08:50:49 PM
Who?

Besides ooooobama kool-aid gulper #69576394769023, I got no clue.

here's what a quick google search turned up -

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/982.html
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Rebel on October 20, 2008, 08:54:36 PM
Yeah, I'm with you guys, who the hell is Ken Adelman?
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Duke Nukum on October 20, 2008, 09:20:57 PM
Nobody knows who this guy is but it is Big!  Bigger than the endorsement of General Quisling!  :whatever:

I can't remember the last time an endorsement changed my mind about who I vote for...Oh, that's right, never.
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Willow on October 20, 2008, 09:26:27 PM
He hopes. Did he say he hopes? I don't know who Ken is either but if he "hopes" then he jumped to the right campfire.
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Duke Nukum on October 20, 2008, 09:27:38 PM
He hopes. Did he say he hopes? I don't know who Ken is either but if he "hopes" then he jumped to the right campfire.
"Hope for the change of the hope of the change!"
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Ptarmigan on October 20, 2008, 11:45:26 PM
Yeah, I'm with you guys, who the hell is Ken Adelman?

Yeah, I wonder that too.
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on October 21, 2008, 11:04:50 AM
This is just one of the stupidest damned things anybody could say....I hope that this person in real life is nothing at all like he has been in ,uhm...real life.

Someone explain what kind of sense that makes or are we witnessing a bunch of bureaucrats polishing up their resumes?

I have to agree, the rationale in that does not add up at all.  "I don't like what John McCain did picking a running mate, it doesn't matter that Barack's running mate has a track record of being consistently wrong on every foreigh policy issue he's ever discussed, and that Barack appears to stand against everything I supposedly believe in, I just kind of hope he might turn out different than he claims he will."  Did money change hands for a book deal or something?  'Cause if it isn't that, he needs to get checked out stroke/concussion right away.

On edit - I don't see it as big at all.  Unlike Powell this guy has no national public visibility, except with people who are already highly politicized, and he isn't going to be changing any minds in that group at this point.
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Texacon on October 21, 2008, 11:41:58 AM
All these people falling out of trees to endorse 'O' make me think the 'O' campaign has some BIG problems and they know it.  They are out beating the bushes for people of prominence (real or perceived) to state they are going to vote for him ..... 

KC
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: Duke Nukum on October 21, 2008, 05:21:50 PM
All these people falling out of trees to endorse 'O' make me think the 'O' campaign has some BIG problems and they know it.  They are out beating the bushes for people of prominence (real or perceived) to state they are going to vote for him ..... 

KC
Kind of reminds me of mass hysteria.
Title: Re: Ken Adelman Endorses Obama (THIS is bigger than Powell)
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 22, 2008, 10:33:44 AM
Ken Adelman is the one who said "cakewalk" and "we will be greeted as liberators" the quote subsequently--and erroneousy--attributed hung about the neck of Dick Cheney, John McCain or whoever else the libs needs to disagree with at the time.