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Title: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: USA4ME on October 15, 2008, 08:45:22 AM
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Paint It Black
 
If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share. 

It really cracks me up to see people earning over $250K whining and crying about the possibility of having to pay more taxes. Boo-hoo-*******-hoo. I laugh my ass off to see rethugs suggesting that we should actually CUT taxes for corporations. Hey, if any of you rethug/freeper/troll assholes are reading this, I got two words for you - **** YOU. You want to keep all your filthy money to yourselves, you want to hoard all your earnings in your offshore bank accounts, **** OFF. You'd rather see people starve in the streets, dying in hospital waiting rooms, rather than fork over a single ******* dollar. Of course, you have no problem paying a minimal amount of taxes if you know that it's going to help the Defense Dept create new war machines, new ways to kill people; or to Fatherland Security if you know that it's going to go to new ways to suppress protesters.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4240481

Boy, is the darkened canvass primitive going to be upset when those with capital could care less about his opinion and refuse to cooperate with The Big Zero.

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baldguy

1. It's the PATRIOTIC thing to do.

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texpatriot2004

2. Everyone should pay their fair share. It is patriotic to pay taxes.

Paying tax is a privilege and the taxes should be used to protect and rebuild American schools, roads, bridges, etc.

If you are doing well here, then it is your duty to pay your fair share to support the country that enables you to prosper.

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madokie
 
4. I've heard the phrase, I don't mind paying taxes but it was never by one of those assholes

I love paying taxes myself, as everyone should.

Well then, you 3 will absolutely love the increased taxes you will have to pay that The Big Zero said he won't raise on you, but he will.

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Clovis Sangrail

7. the problem is the maze of tax code

not the rates.

People making $40k/year are paying a higher effective tax rate than people making $300k/year... even though $300k/year is a category that gets taxed more heavily.
The ones making lots of money can afford to participate in good number of tax dodges and hire accountants to make sure they pay as little as possible.

There should be a single flat tax and a single exemption that everybody gets.
(that's not what Boortz and the other flat-earthers are calling for)

If you eliminate all the loopholes the wealthy will be paying far more than they do now under "higher" tax brackets.

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Paint It Black

Response to Reply #7

11. A single flat tax rate would hardly be progressive

It would burden those making less far more than those making over $250K.

I agree the current tax code is a joke, and we really do need to simplify things. Instead of a single tax rate, it should be a series of tax rates depending on your income. I realize that's pretty much what we have now, but eliminate all these tax credits and shelters that the rich use to get out of their obligations.

This idiot actually believes that The Big Zero is going to eliminate income tax credits and loopholes.  What a kook.

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bullwinkle428

12. Their latest argument - "ALMOST 50% OF AMERICANS PAY NO INCOME TAXES!"

That pathetic Repuke Bushie reject Ari Fleisher was again pushing this meme last night on "The Daily Show"!

They are so utterly obsessed with the idea of continuing to additionally burden the working class of this country to the point where we have a permanent majority underclass. They can then retreat behind the safe walls of their gated communities, where they can count their money or whatever they get off on doing...

CHANGE IS COMING, ASSHOLES!

Yes, it is, but it's not going to be what you expect it to be.  You're really not going to like how those with capital refuse to participate in your socialist redistribution schemes.

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Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 15, 2008, 09:05:09 AM
Someone should attempt to inform the DUmmies that paying half your social security and local property taxes doesn't count as paying your "fair share".
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: Carl on October 15, 2008, 09:07:34 AM
They say it is patriotic until for some reason the tax burden increases on them then they whine.
They want business to be decimated with taxes but then go on saying such and such should never cost more then a low figure they wish for.

They are the dumbest most deluded forms of life on the planet.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 15, 2008, 09:11:14 AM
They say it is patriotic until for some reason the tax burden increases on them then they whine.
They want business to be decimated with taxes but then go on saying such and such should never cost more then a low figure they wish for.

They are the dumbest most deluded forms of life on the planet.

It just amazes me that the one cell, no brained, critters can continue live....and vote.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: ScubaGuy on October 15, 2008, 09:26:23 AM
I wonder if the DUmmies will ever understand that there's no such thing as taxing a corporation. 

Are they really stupid enough to think that those corporations just eat the increased tax burden?
When their messiah preaches about hitting big oil with extra taxes not one of them is smart enough to realize that it's the consumer that will pay the tax.

Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share
Post by: thundley4 on October 15, 2008, 09:32:19 AM
Why do they insist on taxes being "progressive".  Progressive taxes aren't fair and never have been.  I'm all for a flat tax or even a national sales tax.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share
Post by: ScubaGuy on October 15, 2008, 09:46:18 AM
Why do they insist on taxes being "progressive".  Progressive taxes aren't fair and never have been.  I'm all for a flat tax or even a national sales tax.

That way they pay their "fair" share of 0% while everybody else pays the rest. 

Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: Texacon on October 15, 2008, 09:52:57 AM
Hey, Paint it Black.  Let's look at a couple of things in your post shall we?

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Paint It Black
 
If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share. 

It really cracks me up to see people earning over $250K whining and crying about the possibility of having to pay more taxes. Boo-hoo-*******-hoo. I laugh my ass off to see rethugs suggesting that we should actually CUT taxes for corporations. Hey, if any of you rethug/freeper/troll assholes are reading this, I got two words for you - **** YOU. You want to keep all your filthy money to yourselves, you want to hoard all your earnings in your offshore bank accounts, **** OFF. You'd rather see people starve in the streets, dying in hospital waiting rooms, rather than fork over a single ******* dollar. Of course, you have no problem paying a minimal amount of taxes if you know that it's going to help the Defense Dept create new war machines, new ways to kill people; or to Fatherland Security if you know that it's going to go to new ways to suppress protesters.

http://www.democraticunde...l&address=389x4240481

Pay special attention to the bolded part then look at the words I've increased in size.  Notice anything about that?

It is MY money and if I choose to help people then that is MY call.  No where in MY Constitution does it give you the right to take MY money and give it to whomever YOU wish for it to go to.

School is now is session if you have the balls to come to CC to defend this complete and utter bullshit post of yours .... since we aren't allowed to confront you over there.

Please, please come over here and defend this. 

KC
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: Texacon on October 15, 2008, 09:55:08 AM
I wonder if the DUmmies will ever understand that there's no such thing as taxing a corporation. 

No, they won't.

Are they really stupid enough to think that those corporations just eat the increased tax burden?
When their messiah preaches about hitting big oil with extra taxes not one of them is smart enough to realize that it's the consumer that will pay the tax.

Yes, they are.

KC
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share
Post by: thundley4 on October 15, 2008, 09:55:21 AM
The DUmmie won't show up, they never do.  They have to hide behind Skinner's skirts so they don't have to see the truth.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: Odin's Hand on October 15, 2008, 09:56:20 AM
Hey, Paint it Black.  Let's look at a couple of things in your post shall we?

Pay special attention to the bolded part then look at the words I've increased in size.  Notice anything about that?

It is MY money and if I choose to help people then that is MY call.  No where in MY Constitution does it give you the right to take MY money and give it to whomever YOU wish for it to go to.

School is now is session if you have the balls to come to CC to defend this complete and utter bullshit post of yours .... since we aren't allowed to confront you over there.

Please, please come over here and defend this. 

KC

It is "filthy" money when it is in a conservative's possession, but, "pure" money when it is redistributed to the hands of a liberal.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share
Post by: BEG on October 15, 2008, 10:11:05 AM
http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=6

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For Tax Year 2006

Percentiles Ranked by AGI

AGI Threshold on Percentiles

Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid

Top 1%         $388,806      39.89%
 
Top 5%         $153,542      60.14%

Top 10%       $108,904      70.79%

Top 25%         $64,702      86.27%

Top 50%         $31,987      97.01%

Bottom 50%  <$31,987        2.99%

Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income

Screw you DU, I pay more than my "fair share".   :bird:
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 15, 2008, 10:11:35 AM
Corporations don't pay taxes, they collect them.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share
Post by: jukin on October 15, 2008, 10:36:05 AM
In fed income tax alone I pay for at least two lazy DUchebags.  I think that is enough.


P.S. Can we call them communist yet?
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: MrsSmith on October 15, 2008, 05:37:35 PM
You don't like rich people?  So, when's the last time a poor person gave you a job?   :thatsright: :thatsright:


{not mine, read it elsewhere today, but forgot where.  Maybe Townhall.}
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: Chris_ on October 15, 2008, 06:12:05 PM
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Paying tax is a privilege and the taxes should be used to protect and rebuild American schools, roads, bridges, etc.
No. Paying taxes is an obligation.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 06:14:08 PM
No. Paying taxes is an obligation.

But Don, this is a line from people who don't pay jack shit in taxes.  I get paid tomorrow.  I just saw my paystub.

$21K in federal alone.  SO FAR.  If they GROSSED that, it would be a career year for them.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share
Post by: Texacon on October 15, 2008, 06:15:49 PM
But Don, this is a line from people who don't pay jack shit in taxes.  I get paid tomorrow.  I just saw my paystub.

$21K in federal alone.  SO FAR.  If they GROSSED that, it would be a career year for them.

But you should be GLAD to pay that much in taxes .... it means you are doing well!  And if you won't share with the rest of us we'll get the gubmint to MAKE you do it. [/DUmmie]

KC
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: Chris_ on October 15, 2008, 06:20:02 PM
"fair share" = "you should pay more than me."

These idiots don't understand that THEIR EMPLOYERS make more than that -- and will take action based on new tax rates.  That action will be to SLASH PAYROLL first.  Abd, being DUmmies, and thus lazy as hell with bad attitudes and performance, THEY WILL BE THE FIRST TO BE CUT.

Even under the messiahnfuhrer, you have to have a job to get the new tax robin hood gift.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 06:20:55 PM
But you should be GLAD to pay that much in taxes .... it means you are doing well!  And if you won't share with the rest of us we'll get the gubmint to MAKE you do it. [/DUmmie]

KC


There's going to come a day not far down the road where people are going to learn again what, "MOLON LABE" means.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 06:22:55 PM
"fair share" = "you should pay more than me."

These idiots don't understand that THEIR EMPLOYERS make more than that -- and will take action based on new tax rates.  That action will be to SLASH PAYROLL first.  Abd, being DUmmies, and thus lazy as hell with bad attitudes and performance, THEY WILL BE THE FIRST TO BE CUT.

Even under the messiahnfuhrer, you have to have a job to get the new tax robin hood gift.


I don't get to listen to Rush much unless I'm on backshift as I am this week.  Driving in today I got to hear about Obama's plan from a small business owner in Oregon (!) who stated that the 3K credit for hiring new employees was basically a joke because that credit would NEVER come close to making up for the increased taxes they'd have to pay under an Obama tax plan.

But DUmmies being what they are, they think it'll always be the OTHER guy who gets laid off, not them.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share
Post by: Texacon on October 15, 2008, 06:22:58 PM
There's going to come a day not far down the road where people are going to learn again what, "MOLON LABE" means.

Thanks for teaching me a new phrase and YOU'RE RIGHT!

KC
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 06:26:29 PM
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Paint It Black
 
It really cracks me up to see people earning over $250K whining and crying about the possibility of having to pay more taxes. Boo-hoo-hoo. I laugh my ass off to see rethugs suggesting that we should actually CUT taxes for corporations.


One has nothing to do with the other.  :???:

The corporation pays its employes (the CEO is an employee).  It also pays business taxes.  Apples and oranges.  But it all gets passed on to the person paying the bill.  You know, the little person -- the common man, the one that liberals claim to care about.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: Carl on October 15, 2008, 06:46:32 PM
"fair share" = "you should pay more than me."

These idiots don't understand that THEIR EMPLOYERS make more than that -- and will take action based on new tax rates.  That action will be to SLASH PAYROLL first.  Abd, being DUmmies, and thus lazy as hell with bad attitudes and performance, THEY WILL BE THE FIRST TO BE CUT.

Even under the messiahnfuhrer, you have to have a job to get the new tax robin hood gift.


Free.....these are people who believe that all goods should be manufactured by union employees getting at least 40.00/hour regardless of task or education.
Then the company they work for should be taxed at nearly 100% of profit (like there would be any  ::) ) and still provide them with goods and services at a very low personal cost.

There is simply no understanding the convoluted and unrealistic dreams that they cling to as they create their realities and give themselves pleasure by being enraged that it doesn`t happen.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: Traveshamockery on October 15, 2008, 08:46:49 PM
My wife is a school teacher.  ALL of her salary and a good chunk of mine go to pay taxes.

We've talked about this, and if Hussien wins, she's going to quit her job.  One good math teacher off the payroll and we'll actually be making MORE money.


Isn't it so frustrating that you and your wife would have to make a decision regarding a job that she obviously spent time and money educating herself to achieve because of the philosophies of one party in this country?  That sort of situation just bugs the living *&^% out of me like you would not believe. 

My husband and are in a similar situation.  I own my own small business which I run out of my home and have recently lost a couple of clients and normally would have a couple of other ones ready to take their place.  (No, I'm not a prostitute  :hyper:).

Because of the upcoming election and the possibility of democrats being totally in charge of this country, my husband and I have decided that I won't take on any more clients at this time. 

Because of my small business and being self-employed, our combined tax burden is unreal and it's just not worth it.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: Airwolf on October 15, 2008, 08:59:33 PM
If they want everyone to pay their fair share then the dregs of socicity can also take a hit on their welfare checks and pay their fair share.. Everyone can pay an equal share or the DUmpmonkeys can FOAD..
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: AllosaursRus on October 15, 2008, 10:17:03 PM
No matter how many itemized deducts I can come up with, I will give the gubmint 20% of my income! If any of you's guys can show me a better way, it will be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share.
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 10:19:13 PM
No matter how many itemized deducts I can come up with, I will give the gubmint 20% of my income! If any of you's guys can show me a better way, it will be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!

That's 20 percent you see, IF you pay no federal tax.

Now add in the SSI/Medicare/Medicaid, state income tax, property tax, etc.

You're lucky if you don't send at least 35 percent or more to the government.
Title: Re: If you're doing well in this country, then you should pay your ******* share
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on October 16, 2008, 12:19:11 AM
You forgot to add on the 13% "Socialist Security" tax.
Medicare tax
Gasoline tax
Water tax
Electricity tax
Natural gas tax
Property tax
Sales tax
State income tax
Tobacco tax
Alcohol tax
and I can name more....

Not to mention all the government fees when you, say need court documents, need to buy a gun permit, or even get your driver's license renewed, etc. Tons more money there.