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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: asdf2231 on October 14, 2008, 08:10:59 PM
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trumad (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 06:48 AM
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Doesn't the term "Bitch Slap" connote violence towards women?
I'm seeing it quite a lot here on DU lately.
Oh man. You wouldn't want to demean a woman on DU! Unless, ya'know, she's running for Veep and then you can call her a whore, a porn star, a fat breeder cow, a cocktease, ect... ect... ect...
cjsmom44 (273 posts) Tue Oct-14-08 06:58 AM
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4. Yes
Yes, in answer to your question...the term is frightening to those women who have been abused by men period...and there are many of us....
bunnies (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #4
42. Speak for yourself, please.
As someone who spent years in a abusive relationship, I am sure as hell not frightened by a phrase.
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 07:00 AM
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5. I think it's misogynistic in the fact that it's taken to mean a weak slap.
Or the fact that it contains the word "bitch".
I don't really see any definition that equates it with violence towards women in particular
jsmirman (764 posts) Tue Oct-14-08 07:20 AM
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18. Congratulations. That's as wrong and silly as the topic to begin with.
Yes, it connotes violence towards women if you've been living under a rock and are woefully unfamiliar with how it's been used for the last decade.
People, sometimes, please.
pecwae (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 07:06 AM
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8. No, it's okay
any gratuitous use of misogynist term is perfectly acceptable. Women should just stop being so ******* oversensitive about the use of bitch, whore, c*nt, because there's an election to win.
But, again, it's perfectly acceptable to say those things about Sarah Palin because she is a demoness who eats babies. :whatever:
TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 07:29 AM
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24. Yes, it's violent toward woman
It's origination comes out of the gang/criminal culture where women are expected to be subserviant to men. The action is a strong slap to the face usually by a man to "his bitch" as a means of putting a defiant woman in her place and more preferred to be done publically to add humilation to the woman slapped. The term became mainstream when the rap/hip hop culture adopted the term with its original meaning. It is only very recently that the term was borrowed and used differently to mean a humiliating defeat of some kind by a man or woman.
I particularly hate this term not only because of it's origination but because its origination is fairly recent and still mostly used with the original intended meaning... it's only very recently that the term has been borrowed and used differently.
Ummm... Did she just, like, TOTALLY condemn black culture there?
KzooDem (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 08:21 AM
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44. Oh good ****ing lord....here we go again. The semantics police is on the prowl.
I used the term bitch slap in a thread I started just yesterday. I said that I wanted to bitch slap this vapid woman on MSNBC who claimed to be a Dem, but was spouting Palin talking points of reasons she's voting for McCain.
The woman is a lying bitch. Therefore, I wanted to bitch slap her.
I'm not advocating violence toward women. Would you have had an issue had I just said "I want to slap this woman?"
These are figures of speech. I think everyone pretty much understands what bitch slap means, and I think everyone understands that it's a goddsmned figure of speech and not a call for violence toward women.
To imply that it is smacks of disingenuity. We're adults, we know what it means, and what it doesn't mean. GET A GRIP.
I'm sorry it bothers you, but it's doubtful that I'll censor my vocabulary because it seems to upset your delicate constitution.
And a Mod over there locked the thread because he used the word. LOL!
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The whole lot of 'em need a fist slap to the nose.
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Makes you want to bitch-slap every last one of them, no?
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However, "Palin is a c*nt" is not a problem at all.
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However, "Palin is a c*nt" is not a problem at all.
Don't forget the shit they've said about Condi.
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This is so gay...
trumad (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 07:49 AM
Response to Reply #19
33. I asked a question---that's all.
DU over the years has made me reflect on the terms that I've used in my past. For instance--- I used the term "trailer trash" frequently until I learned that it was offensive to some. I stopped using it. I use to use the phrase, "that's so gay", until I realized that it was offensive to some.
This place in my mind has made me a better person and more sensitive to what can hurt people's feelings.
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 07:06 AM
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8. No, it's okay
any gratuitous use of misogynist term is perfectly acceptable. Women should just stop being so ******* oversensitive about the use of bitch, whore, c*nt, because there's an election to win.
But, again, it's perfectly acceptable to say those things about Sarah Palin because she is a demoness who eats babies. :whatever:
I could be wrong, but it sounds like ol' pecwae was trying for 'biting sarcasm' there, asdf. Of course pecwae could just be an even bigger idiot than the DU average, it's kinda hard to tell.
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trumad (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 07:49 AM
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33. I asked a question---that's all.
DU over the years has made me reflect on the terms that I've used in my past. For instance--- I used the term "trailer trash" frequently until I learned that it was offensive to some. I stopped using it. I use to use the phrase, "that's so gay", until I realized that it was offensive to some.
This place in my mind has made me a better person and more sensitive to what can hurt people's feelings.
Another DU quasi-male whose been bitch-slapped and *****-whipped so often he can't think for himself. How PC obsessed and insecure do you have to be to ask DU whether a VERY common phrase is offensive? I just have no respect for liberal men.
Cindie
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But, again, it's perfectly acceptable to say those things about Sarah Palin because she is a demoness who eats babies. :whatever:
I could be wrong, but it sounds like ol' pecwae was trying for 'biting sarcasm' there, asdf. Of course pecwae could just be an even bigger idiot than the DU average, it's kinda hard to tell.
That poster doesn't seem to be a regular, yet has thousands of posts. Hmmmm.
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None of the DUmmies should ever be aboard the "Intellectually Deep-Thinker Express." But if there were a train custom fit for their lower level of intellect, trumad would definately be in the back seat.
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I always thought a "bitch slap" was what one gay male did to another gay male. :lmao:
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I always thought a "bitch slap" was what one gay male did to another gay male. :lmao:
That's what I was thinking too.......but being as PC as I am, I wasn't going to say anything.
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