The Conservative Cave

Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on October 09, 2008, 09:41:20 AM

Title: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: thundley4 on October 09, 2008, 09:41:20 AM
Quote
Paint It Black (1000+ posts)           Thu Oct-09-08 10:01 AM
Original message
ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!

Rethugs are making up bullshit stories about how ACORN is engaging in widespread voter fraud. They want to accomplish two things - prevent ACORN from registering any new voters, and to disenfranchise the voters they've already registered. Already they're sifting through ACORN voter registration files to see how many they can toss out.

This is an outrage.     
Quote
leftofcool (1000+ posts)           Thu Oct-09-08 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. I just heard this being done in Ohio, VA and another state
   
I didn't quite catch. This is not good news. I hope they don't find may fraudulent ones because this could make us look really bad.
Quote
Paint It Black (1000+ posts)           Thu Oct-09-08 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #10
13. I'm sure there are a very small number of bogus ones
   
It wouldn't surprise me if there were a few over-zealous volunteers who created bogus registrations, as happens with both political parties. However, for the rethugs to use a few isolated incidents and claim that it's a systematic effort by ACORN is bogus. The rethugs are going to latch onto those few bogus registrations and use that as an excuse to attempt to deny ALL registrations done by ACORN.
Quote



Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 09, 2008, 09:52:37 AM
How many times and in how many states can Alfred E. Newman vote?

As many as it takes to elect the O'bamalama.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: lastparker on October 09, 2008, 09:53:50 AM
Quote
Paint It Black (1000+ posts)           Thu Oct-09-08 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #10
13. I'm sure there are a very small number of bogus ones
   
It wouldn't surprise me if there were a few over-zealous volunteers who created bogus registrations, as happens with both political parties. However, for the rethugs to use a few isolated incidents and claim that it's a systematic effort by ACORN is bogus. The rethugs are going to latch onto those few bogus registrations and use that as an excuse to attempt to deny ALL registrations done by ACORN.

Uh huh.

Quote
Secretary of State Ross Miller said the fraudulent registrations included  forms for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys football team.

"Tony Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada, and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4," Miller said.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Wineslob on October 09, 2008, 10:01:48 AM
Quote
leftofcool (1000+ posts)           Thu Oct-09-08 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. I just heard this being done in Ohio, VA and another state
   
I didn't quite catch. This is not good news. I hope they don't find may fraudulent ones because this could make us look really bad.


Too late, bud.  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on October 09, 2008, 10:05:52 AM
Quote
Paint It Black (1000+ posts)           Thu Oct-09-08 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #10
13. I'm sure there are a very small number of bogus ones

Earth to moonbat, Earth to moonbat, please initiate clue generation process immediately!

 :hammer:
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 09, 2008, 10:07:41 AM
I wonder if they intuitively suspect the ACORN scandal is going to be getting much worse before it gets better and they're seeding their talking points.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Chris on October 09, 2008, 10:13:33 AM
I wonder if they intuitively suspect the ACORN scandal is going to be getting much worse before it gets better and they're seeding their talking points.

If Baptists were doing what ACORN is doing, they'd shit themselves.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: TheSarge on October 09, 2008, 10:40:55 AM
If Baptists were doing what ACORN is doing, they'd shit themselves.

According to our own little Lanie/Bridget they are.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: thundley4 on October 09, 2008, 10:54:59 AM
ACORN seems to be the main story on FNC this morning. Will Rush and Hannity jump on the bandwagon today?
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Texacon on October 09, 2008, 10:56:23 AM
This shit of going out and dragging people in to register needs to stop.  If people want to vote they can go vote.  We don't need to be dragging them out from under bridges or anywhere else.

***disclaimer***

If someone desires to vote and has no way to get there I see no problem with getting them there but to promise them bottles of Thunderbird wine to climb in a van and 'vote' for your guy is total shit.

KC
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: miskie on October 09, 2008, 10:57:56 AM
According to our own little Lanie/Bridget they are.

Im sure that it will be proven one way or the other. The states that seem to be affected are sifting through all new registrations. The forms are serialized, and it is recorded as to what registration operation each form was handed off to. As so far, the lions share of bogus forms have all traced back to the ones given to ACORN.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 09, 2008, 11:00:00 AM
ACORN seems to be the main story on FNC this morning. Will Rush and Hannity jump on the bandwagon today?

Rush is starting in a few minutes.  I would expect he'll discuss ACORN but also the Rezko stuff.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Chris_ on October 09, 2008, 11:05:21 AM
I just heard on the top of the hour news that several Senators have sent a letter to the Sec Treas. requesting that federal funds to ACORN be immediately suspended.......

DUmmie heads will explode over that....

doc
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Texacon on October 09, 2008, 11:05:37 AM
Even when ACORN is found to be perpetrating vote fraud (and you know they will) the libs are going to be screaming, DISENFRANCHISMENT, from the roof tops.

How in the hell you can disenfranchise someone who doesn't exist is beyond me but you know that where they will go.

KC
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: bijou on October 09, 2008, 11:08:18 AM
Even when ACORN is found to be perpetrating vote fraud (and you know they will) the libs are going to be screaming, DISENFRANCHISMENT, from the roof tops.

How in the hell you can disenfranchise someone who doesn't exist is beyond me but you know that where they will go.

KC
Yet again evil conservatives show their disregard for the Non-existent-American demographic. When will the hate stop? :(   :-)
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: miskie on October 09, 2008, 11:08:22 AM
I just heard on the top of the hour news that several Senators have sent a letter to the Sec Treas. requesting that federal funds to ACORN be immediately suspended.......

DUmmie heads will explode over that....

doc

The response to this is as predictable as the sun rising in the east. Racist.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: TheSarge on October 09, 2008, 11:09:02 AM
Even when ACORN is found to be perpetrating vote fraud (and you know they will) the libs are going to be screaming, DISENFRANCHISMENT, from the roof tops.

How in the hell you can disenfranchise someone who doesn't exist is beyond me but you know that where they will go.

KC

Because as always with the Libs it's not the actual charge that matters...just the seriousness of the accusation.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: thundley4 on October 09, 2008, 11:09:09 AM
I just looked at the AP political headlines, nothing there but a story about Todd Palin having access to Sarah's staff. (She has plenty of access to his I'm sure.  :-) )  Nothing on Yahoo top stories either.  :(
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Texacon on October 09, 2008, 11:13:16 AM
Yet again evil conservatives show their disregard for the Non-existent-American demographic. When will the hate stop? :(   :-)

LOL H5!

KC
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 09, 2008, 11:16:33 AM
Just a flight of fancy but...

..could you imagine Obama squeaking through to a victory only to end up unable to serve because ACORN and Rezko blow-up in his face. Biden would then get the job but being such an idiot and tarnished by Obama he has a knockdown drag-out fight with the senate over a replacement VP. But because the dems are too bogged down to oppose a numerically diminished but politically resurgent GOP that has nonetheless succeeded in hanging the ACORN/Obama/Fannie Mae albatross around their gout-ridden necks.

I keep hearing Christopher Lloyd as Judge Doom in Who Framed Roger Rabbit saying, "My God...it will be beautiful."

Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Chris on October 09, 2008, 11:18:10 AM
Kansas City Officials Find Hundreds of Bogus Registrations (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/more-acorn-fraud-kansas-city-officials.html)
McCaskill's ACORN Friends Submit 1,492 Bogus Voter Cards  (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/mccaskills-acorn-friends-submit-1492.html)
McCaskill Campaign Implicated in ACORN Voter Fraud Scandal (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/mccaskill-campaign-implicated-in-acorn_18.html)
ACORN Strikes Again... In Washington State (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/acorn-strikes-again-in-washington.html)
Missouri ACORN Workers Indicted, 35,000 Questionable Forms (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/11/missouri-acorn-workers-indicted-35000.html)
ACORN Workers Get Confused, Picket Mayor's Parents Home (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/11/acorn-workers-get-confused-picket.html)
ACORN Defendants Plead Guilty to Voter-Registration Fraud (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/10/acorn-defendants-plead-guilty-to-voter.html)
Surprise!... ACORN Busted Faking Voter Registrations Again (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/surprise-acorn-busted-in-michigan-voter.html)
ACORN Offices Raided in Las Vegas (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/acorn-offices-raided-in-las-vegas.html)

...and this is from just one group.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: bijou on October 09, 2008, 11:24:03 AM
One thing that all this has achieved is that google news now shows a whole heap of bad press for ACORN in its first few results.  The MSM will be ruing its decision to ignore the issue.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Chris_ on October 09, 2008, 11:25:46 AM
Quote
It wouldn't surprise me if there were a few over-zealous volunteers who created bogus registrations, as happens with both political parties.

Kansas City Officials Find Hundreds of Bogus Registrations (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/more-acorn-fraud-kansas-city-officials.html)
McCaskill's ACORN Friends Submit 1,492 Bogus Voter Cards  (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/mccaskills-acorn-friends-submit-1492.html)
McCaskill Campaign Implicated in ACORN Voter Fraud Scandal (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/mccaskill-campaign-implicated-in-acorn_18.html)
ACORN Strikes Again... In Washington State (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/acorn-strikes-again-in-washington.html)
Missouri ACORN Workers Indicted, 35,000 Questionable Forms (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/11/missouri-acorn-workers-indicted-35000.html)
ACORN Workers Get Confused, Picket Mayor's Parents Home (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/11/acorn-workers-get-confused-picket.html)
ACORN Defendants Plead Guilty to Voter-Registration Fraud (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/10/acorn-defendants-plead-guilty-to-voter.html)
Surprise!... ACORN Busted Faking Voter Registrations Again (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/surprise-acorn-busted-in-michigan-voter.html)
ACORN Offices Raided in Las Vegas (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/acorn-offices-raided-in-las-vegas.html)

...and this is from just one group.

I'd shudder to see what the DUmmies consider WIDESPREAD vote fraud...
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Chris on October 09, 2008, 11:31:16 AM
Quote
It's been six months since a group of University of Connecticut journalism students, using public databases, discovered that more than 8,500 dead people remained on Connecticut voting rolls whose names could have been fraudulently used to cast votes in elections.

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/opinion/ci_10675188?source=email

More news from CT.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: mamacags on October 09, 2008, 12:03:42 PM
Kansas City Officials Find Hundreds of Bogus Registrations (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/more-acorn-fraud-kansas-city-officials.html)
McCaskill's ACORN Friends Submit 1,492 Bogus Voter Cards  (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/mccaskills-acorn-friends-submit-1492.html)
McCaskill Campaign Implicated in ACORN Voter Fraud Scandal (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/mccaskill-campaign-implicated-in-acorn_18.html)
ACORN Strikes Again... In Washington State (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/acorn-strikes-again-in-washington.html)
Missouri ACORN Workers Indicted, 35,000 Questionable Forms (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/11/missouri-acorn-workers-indicted-35000.html)
ACORN Workers Get Confused, Picket Mayor's Parents Home (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/11/acorn-workers-get-confused-picket.html)
ACORN Defendants Plead Guilty to Voter-Registration Fraud (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/10/acorn-defendants-plead-guilty-to-voter.html)
Surprise!... ACORN Busted Faking Voter Registrations Again (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/surprise-acorn-busted-in-michigan-voter.html)
ACORN Offices Raided in Las Vegas (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/acorn-offices-raided-in-las-vegas.html)

...and this is from just one group.

I am stealing that from you!  Thanks! :cheersmate:
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: FlaGator on October 09, 2008, 12:18:05 PM
Don't two of the letters in ACORN stand for Community Organizers? I'm just staying... :-)
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Chris on October 09, 2008, 12:30:22 PM
I am stealing that from you!  Thanks! :cheersmate:

You can thank Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit.  That guy is awesome.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Chris_ on October 09, 2008, 12:32:53 PM
105% of eligible voters are registered in Indianapolis...
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: bijou on October 09, 2008, 12:50:06 PM
ACORN registered Dominos employee 15 times (http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092008/news/politics/nuts__132771.htm)

Quote
CLEVELAND - Two Ohio voters, including Domino's pizza worker Christopher Barkley , claimed yesterday that they were hounded by the community-activist group ACORN to register to vote several times, even though they made it clear they'd already signed up.

Barkley estimated he'd registered to vote "10 to 15" times after canvassers for ACORN, whose political wing has endorsed Barack Obama, relentlessly pursued him and others.

Claims such as his have sparked election officials to probe ACORN.

"I kept getting approached by folks who asked me to register," Barkley said. "They'd ask me if I was registered. I'd say yes, and they'd ask me to do it [register] again.


"Some of them were getting paid to collect names. That was their sob story, and I bought it," he said.

....
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Chris_ on October 09, 2008, 01:06:12 PM
Quote
leftofcool (1000+ posts)           Thu Oct-09-08 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. I just heard this being done in Ohio, VA and another state
   
I didn't quite catch. This is not good news. I hope they don't find may fraudulent ones because this could make us look really bad.

They will and you will.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: jukin on October 09, 2008, 09:17:45 PM
105% of eligible voters are registered in Indianapolis...

Only because you are not counting the ones in the cemetery.
Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Airwolf on October 09, 2008, 09:40:14 PM
And there is more bad news.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/09/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4512615.shtml



Home » Politics » Politico » Politico: The Crypt Blog

Blunt Continues ACORN War
By Ryan Grim

Oct 9, 2008
E-Mail Story
Print Story
Sphere
Share
Text Size:  A  A  A
 
(The Politico) The ACORN war rages on. Minority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) called today for a "full-scale" investigation into allegedly ACORN-led voter fraud in Missouri and across the nation. Up until just a few weeks ago, ACORN was an obscure community organizing group allied with Democrats and pushing for access to affordable housing. It is now one of the GOP's top targets, called out at McCain-Palin events and the subject of untold viral e-mails.

Blunt's call is for an investigation into voter-registration fraud, which is significantly different than voter fraud. Voter registration fraud generally means that people paid to register voters got lazy and faked the registration by filling in the name of, say, a Dallas Cowboys offensive lineman instead of registering an actual voter. Faking a registration is easier than registering an actual voter and the pay is the same. The people who have been fraudently registered, however, will not vote. An ACORN contractor may have made off with $30 bucks for registering Donald Duck, but it's more likely that someone on election day will vote for Donald Duck than that Mr. Duck will show up to vote himself.

Title: Re: ACORN is being used to deny THOUSANDS of people the right to vote!
Post by: Texacon on October 10, 2008, 07:17:34 AM
And there is more bad news.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/09/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4512615.shtml



Home » Politics » Politico » Politico: The Crypt Blog

Blunt Continues ACORN War
By Ryan Grim

Oct 9, 2008
E-Mail Story
Print Story
Sphere
Share
Text Size:  A  A  A
 
(The Politico) The ACORN war rages on. Minority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) called today for a "full-scale" investigation into allegedly ACORN-led voter fraud in Missouri and across the nation. Up until just a few weeks ago, ACORN was an obscure community organizing group allied with Democrats and pushing for access to affordable housing. It is now one of the GOP's top targets, called out at McCain-Palin events and the subject of untold viral e-mails.

Blunt's call is for an investigation into voter-registration fraud, which is significantly different than voter fraud. Voter registration fraud generally means that people paid to register voters got lazy and faked the registration by filling in the name of, say, a Dallas Cowboys offensive lineman instead of registering an actual voter. Faking a registration is easier than registering an actual voter and the pay is the same. The people who have been fraudently registered, however, will not vote. An ACORN contractor may have made off with $30 bucks for registering Donald Duck, but it's more likely that someone on election day will vote for Donald Duck than that Mr. Duck will show up to vote himself.


I disagree with that statement.  If the names are out there I think Orgs. such as ACORN will find a way to fill those blanks on the sheet.  Sounds like someone is trying to take the edge off the damage.

KC