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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 08, 2008, 06:39:58 PM

Title: RICO Suave
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 08, 2008, 06:39:58 PM
OK kids. I've been reading up on RICO statutes and how they might relate to ACORN.

While RICO is primarily a criminal statute it can be used in civil cases.

In order to file a civil case you have to show:

1) standing - we are citizens of the US and are subject to electoral results. this is bolstered if you happen to live in a voting district/state effected by ACORN activity

2) have suffered harm or will suffer imminent harm - we will have been denied the right to our votes fairly counted

3) certitude of relief - by declaring ACORN a criminal enterprise its officers are subject to criminal prosecution and its assets can be seized

To qualify under RICO statutes the defendent has to have committed 2 of the enumerated offense within the past 10 years. Fraud and racketeering are two of the 35 offenses and ACORN agents have numerous convictions. Toss in their sub-prime mortage shenanigans and SLAPP (nuisance lawsuits to intimidate defendents) violations against banks and it starts piling-up fast.

Thoughts in general:

* going after Obama by name is a non-starter. No local judge will want to go down as the guy who spoiled a US election. Such a lawsuit would be laughed out of court.

* borrowing from the ACLU playbook the suit should be filed in a sympathetic district.

* the relief sought should be monetary penalties of sufficent amount to cripple the organization

* any monies remaining after court costs should be donated

Anyone know a good lawyer (and by good I mean vicious and hungry)?
Title: Re: RICO Suave
Post by: MrsSmith on October 08, 2008, 07:37:47 PM
OK kids. I've been reading up on RICO statutes and how they might relate to ACORN.

While RICO is primarily a criminal statute it can be used in civil cases.

In order to file a civil case you have to show:

1) standing - we are citizens of the US and are subject to electoral results. this is bolstered if you happen to live in a voting district/state effected by ACORN activity

2) have suffered harm or will suffer imminent harm - we will have been denied the right to our votes fairly counted

3) certitude of relief - by declaring ACORN a criminal enterprise its officers are subject to criminal prosecution and its assets can be seized

To qualify under RICO statutes the defendent has to have committed 2 of the enumerated offense within the past 10 years. Fraud and racketeering are two of the 35 offenses and ACORN agents have numerous convictions. Toss in their sub-prime mortage shenanigans and SLAPP (nuisance lawsuits to intimidate defendents) violations against banks and it starts piling-up fast.

Thoughts in general:

* going after Obama by name is a non-starter. No local judge will want to go down as the guy who spoiled a US election. Such a lawsuit would be laughed out of court.

* borrowing from the ACLU playbook the suit should be filed in a sympathetic district.

* the relief sought should be monetary penalties of sufficent amount to cripple the organization

* any monies remaining after court costs should be donated

Anyone know a good lawyer (and by good I mean vicious and hungry)?

Edwards may be angry enough to turn.   :-)


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