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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: asdf2231 on October 08, 2008, 09:08:03 AM
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-08-08 12:41 AM
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I cried tonight.
We have several groups of deer that cross between our property and the one across the street. While the bucks are pretty elusive and rarely seen, the does are gentle and trusting. They see us and once they reassure themselves that we are familiar and mean them no harm they go about their business. While a doe watches us her fawn will freeze and wait. When the mother relaxes they begin playing and eating, sometimes wandering a bit away from her. We have gotten quite used to them wandering fairly close to us. In the summer they will eat the overgrown brush a few feet from open windows while we watch them.
Last year a doe lost a very young twin when a car hit it at the end of our drive. The baby still had her spots. While we checked her to see if there was any hope, her mother stood silent and still across the street and watched. My heart ached. The fawn was gone but she remained there for some time as if she was afraid to leave in case the little one might rally. Her surviving fawn was not prancing away from her that day. He hovered very near her and waited too. I watched her, watching us, and silently communicated my deep sympathies to her. Later we covered her baby in a tarp. We wanted to protect the children on the elementary school bus that would be stopping less then a few feet away from where she fell.
Today, when we came home from a shopping trip, a doe and her fawn were darting across the road. I always catch my breath while they cross hoping they will make it. They did make it and my fiance and i sat in the car for a few minutes watching them. The doe acknowledged us and returned to munching shrubs. There was only one fawn playing near her. Such beautiful and gentle animals. We determined that this was probably the doe that had been wandering with twin fawns earlier in the season and we talked about how sad we were that she must have lost the other. We went in and started making dinner.
A few hours ago while we were watching the debate we noticed that a police car had stopped outside. I looked outside but did not see a second, stopped car. The officer was out of his car. I saw him bend over and pull on a long spindly leg and pull the baby fawn off the road. I immediately walked outside barefoot. I asked him if she was gone. He confirmed that she was and that he had called someone to collect her in the morning. I returned to the house and sobbed. Later, after the officer left, i went out on the porch and looked for the doe that i felt sure was standing just out of sight. I told her i am so sorry. I told her that i am grieving with her over the loss of her sweet baby.
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-08-08 01:46 AM
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5. I am sorry for what you saw.
I'm also sorry that "people" shoot them. I'll go no further to not belittle your experience.
I cry every night. I see the horrors inflicted upon animals every hour of every day.
I am, however, indeed impressed by what you took from this encounter.
GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-08-08 02:05 AM
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7. I'm so sorry...
It's hard to see things like that, especially when you feel the animals are more like neighbors than wildlife.
I worry about the deer in my neighborhood, too. We live near a stream park, with tiny pockets of woodland here and there that the deer manage to make home. But they tend to meander across the street that connects one patch of woods with the park, and we've got a lot of maniac drivers who don't see any reason for sticking to the 25mph speed limit...I've even had some pass me, as if I'd committed some heinous offense. The woods are shrinking, the deer are multiplying, and I'm afraid it's only a matter of time before we witness sad sights such as you've described.
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The word "overpopulation" doesn't mean much to these people.
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Jesus these people cry at the drop of a hat. This kind of over-emotionality is very concerning ,considering their leadership abilities and how close this election is!
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The word "overpopulation" doesn't mean much to these people.
Sure it does. To them, it means there are too many people and not enough animals.
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Sure it does. To them, it means there are too many people and not enough animals.
You would think (wish) they would address the first issue by looking in their own mirror...
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Maybe the primitive instead of watching deer in nature, should park near an abortion business.
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Maybe the primitive instead of watching deer in nature, should park near an abortion business.
Nah...That would just give her the warm fuzzies frank.....all those women in that building..ascerting their "choice" :whatever:
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These idiots are made of mush. It's a damn wonder they can stand up.
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I've got a neighbor that feeds the deer corn and puts out water for them. Of course they wander over to my property and eat the plants. I'm ready to shoot the deer and the neighbor.
She writes it like someone intentionally hit the deer. Yeah, you whacko, there's nothing I rather do than hit a deer and mess my car up.
Freaks. :loser:
FedUpWithIt All
Today, when we came home from a shopping trip, a doe and her fawn were darting across the road. I always catch my breath while they cross hoping they will make it. They did make it and my fiance and i sat in the car for a few minutes watching them.
Instead of catching your breath, how about hitting the brakes. It's like "Are they going to make it? Oh, thank goodness they did this time. We'll see if they make it next time, honey."
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I returned to the house and sobbed. Later, after the officer left, i went out on the porch and looked for the doe that i felt sure was standing just out of sight. I told her i am so sorry. I told her that i am grieving with her over the loss of her sweet baby.
Is this the same crazy bitch that was wailing over the tree?
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Around my neighborhood, deer are like big white-tailed sewer rats, except rats would do a lot less damage. They eat anything that isn't painted. Shrubs and flowers have to be chosen based on what is least palatable these rats. A garden is impossible without an 8-foot fence. And we do not live in the countryside.
Unlike the DUmmy, I don't feel bad when I see a deer struck down by traffic near my home, though I always hope no one was injured in the collision. I know it will have no noticeable effect on the level of deer damage, but it's still satisfying to see another dead one in the gutter, especially if it's a doe.
DUmmies weep every time a mouse chows down on d-Con.
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Spook the damned deer when you see them hanging around the verge and maybe you won't have to waste any more tears on them, idjit. I'll bet ten bucks your stupid lazy ass put apples and other crap out for them within twenty feet of the road in the past.
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Spook the damned deer when you see them hanging around
Preferably with a 7mm-08 Remington.
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Preferably with a 7mm-08 Remington.
I'm with you, but it probably is either in city limits or too close to the road to get away with it. On the other hand it's fine with me if a DUmmie gets arrested.
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Spook the damned deer when you see them hanging around the verge and maybe you won't have to waste any more tears on them, idjit. I'll bet ten bucks your stupid lazy ass put apples and other crap out for them within twenty feet of the road in the past.
Exactly..... :loser:
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Preferably with a 7mm-08 Remington.
Or a .308.
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I'm crying at the thought of venison chili that won't be.
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Preferably with a 7mm-08 Remington.
In the city limits you may be limited to archery.
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Just shows you how effed up their mindset is when they'll cry over the loss of what could have turned out to be a beautiful 10 pointer on someone's wall or venison in the freezer to feed the family...yet they applaud and praise every woman who walks into a doctors office and has that "clump of cells" violently removed from them and washed down a sink.
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Don't worry about the deer idiots, there are plenty of them. And no need to protect the chilluns from a dead deer. Most kids seem to go about life just fine after passing an animal that has met its fate on the 'road of life'-heh. Unless it's obviously a family pet type of animal the most I get out of my kids are a big--ewwww..that's nasty.
Some fine points here also about how the sanctity of life aparently stops at accidental loss of wildlife. Sanctity of life apparently doesn't matter when an adult female deliberately savages an infant in her womb. I'm sure a sucked out fetus looks far worse after then a dear knocked cold on the side of the road. And I'm sure people who actually have the capacity to feel ie humans mourn that loss of life more then the mother deer mourns any fawn of hers. The mother deer will be impregnated again next season and won't give a second thought to that fawn. Her 'love' for her baby is instinctual, not the result of any emotional capacity she has. Someone's been watching waaay too much Bambi.
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I hit a deer once. I cried and cried when I got the $2500 repair bill from the body shop.
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I hit a deer once. I cried and cried when I got the $2500 repair bill from the body shop.
My dad dropped an 8-point black-tail in the mountains of Northern California while on the way back from dropping off the LAST PAYMENT on his van, back when I was but a mere crumb cruncher.
Yes, he cried.
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Cried? Over a stupid piece of meat? It wasn't like anyone spilled a beer for crying out loud.
There wasn't any beer spilled in that story was there?!
KC
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H5!
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Do you suppose they'd "get it" if the aborted children lay on the road? ::)
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It is amazing how many people project human reasoning and emotions onto things incapable of complex thought and action.
The only reason the doe even noticed the fawn was gone is a genetic imperative to reproduce. The doe probably forgot the fawn's existance within a week.
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It is amazing how many people project human reasoning and emotions onto things incapable of complex thought and action.
The only reason the doe even noticed the fawn was gone is a genetic imperative to reproduce. The doe probably forgot the fawn's existance within a week.
I grew up on a dairy farm and when a cow freshened (had a calf) it was removed from her within a couple of days after the colostrum in her milk was run out and it could be sold for human consumption.
Yes,they have a mothers instinct and would call to the calf and search for it but within a day or two would forget all about it.
It did not take long.
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It is amazing how many people project human reasoning and emotions onto things incapable of complex thought and action.
The only reason the doe even noticed the fawn was gone is a genetic imperative to reproduce. The doe probably forgot the fawn's existance within a week.
Yep, I agree. It's why I said I think someone has been watching Bambi too many times.
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While it is perfectly natural for a doe to deliver a set of twins, it is dependent on abundant food sources in the area. If, for instance, a very dry year and little mast is produced in the wooded areas and farm crops suffer, the pregnant doe, pregnant with twins...one will win and absorb the other in the womb. Pure survival of the fittest and guarantee that one will have a better chance of making it on low nutrient supply from the mother, due to less than perfect feeding conditions for the mother. So, if you see a doe with one fawn, it does not necessarily mean she lost one due to being hit by a car DUmmies.
That said, here on our farm they are a huge nuisance. They wreak havoc on the crops. We manage to take our 2 a year for our freezer, and we let several people hunt the farm to help control the population. Still, there were 5 deer standing out in the area in front of the shop when I came in this evening.
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That said, here on our farm they are a huge nuisance. They wreak havoc on the crops. We manage to take our 2 a year for our freezer, and we let several people hunt the farm to help control the population. Still, there were 5 deer standing out in the area in front of the shop when I came in this evening.
In the summertime, back at home, we affectionately referred to them as rats with antlers. Couldn't keep the damned things out of the corn.
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Did everyone miss the fact that a spotted fawn was hit and the damn cop took it away.
A smart person....................(All depending on the condition of the deer,,,,no bladder bust) would have taken the deer off for the officer.
I know I'm a southerner and about to hear about road kill...................well HELL yeah. Fawn is like veal. Tou can fry the tenerloins with eggs for Breakfeast
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Did everyone miss the fact that a spotted fawn was hit and the damn cop took it away.
A smart person....................(All depending on the condition of the deer,,,,no bladder bust) would have taken the deer off for the officer.
I know I'm a southerner and about to hear about road kill...................well HELL yeah. Fawn is like veal. Tou can fry the tenerloins with eggs for Breakfeast
Two things:
1) I have shot small does before, both of the deer I've killed with my T/C Black Diamond. They ate real well. One, I marinated the tenderloins in Italian dressing for a day, then served them for dinner for my wife and I. My only complaint with them--they weren't big enough. The Italian dressing imparted a good flavor to them.
2) I had a Ford Expedition with New Hampshire plates, and a platform off the back bumper attached to the trailer hitch, pass me today as I was coming back from working in the Town of Caroga of NY. Said platform had two does strapped to it, tagged with nonresident tags. Northern Zone of NY is open for bowhunting. I beeped at them as I went by, and slowed down to give them a thumbs-up and a fist pump. I'm thinking that it might be a pretty good year for deer hunting this year.
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Two things:
1) I have shot small does before, both of the deer I've killed with my T/C Black Diamond. They ate real well. One, I marinated the tenderloins in Italian dressing for a day, then served them for dinner for my wife and I. My only complaint with them--they weren't big enough. The Italian dressing imparted a good flavor to them.
2) I had a Ford Expedition with New Hampshire plates, and a platform off the back bumper attached to the trailer hitch, pass me today as I was coming back from working in the Town of Caroga of NY. Said platform had two does strapped to it, tagged with nonresident tags. Northern Zone of NY is open for bowhunting. I beeped at them as I went by, and slowed down to give them a thumbs-up and a fist pump. I'm thinking that it might be a pretty good year for deer hunting this year.
Home made deer baloney ... mmmm... smells awful, tastes great.
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Killed a nice doe with my bow yesterday morning. We have a very liberal season here but I shut it down after seven or eight each year, because the extended family can't handle more than that.
I hate deer around my house, but I love them in the woods and in my freezer