susanbanks44 (235 posts) Thu Oct-02-08 07:27 PM
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Why Women Hate Sarah Palin
Advertisements [?]Some polls are suggesting that after gaining an initial bump, McCain's campaign is being hobbled by Sarah Palin's vice-presidential candidacy. The voters who are deserting her fastest, some of whom are even calling on her to withdraw, are mostly women.
Ah, women, the consistently, tragically underestimated constituency. What the Democrats learned during the primaries and the Republicans might now be finding out the hard way, I learned at my very academic, well-regarded all-girls high school: that is never to discount the ability of women to open a robust, committed, well-thought-out vat of hatred for another girl.
Women are weapons-grade haters. Hillary Clinton knows it. Palin knows it too. When women get their hate on, they don't just dislike, or find disfavor with, or sort of not really appreciate. They loathe — deeply, richly, sustainingly. I do not say this to disparage my gender; women also love in more or less the same way.
When men disagree, the steps to resolution are reasonably clear and unsophisticated. Acts of physical violence are visited upon one another's person or property, and the whole thing blows over. Women? Nu-unh. We savor the discord. We draw it out. We share our contempt with our friends, like a useful stock tip, or really good salsa. And then we all go hate together: a mutually encouraging group activity for when the book group gets quiet.
More:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,184683...
Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-02-08 07:33 PM
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1. So we dislike Palin because of irrational chick stuff?
And instead we will just vote in "some guy"?
I'll tell you why women dislike Palin: Many women have worked for years to get ahead and be taken seriously in the work world. Palin flashes her beauty queen smile while using her family as props, and suddenly she's next in line to be the most powerful person in the world.
mamameow (96 posts) Thu Oct-02-08 08:04 PM
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16. what women really dislike
sarah is a bimbo! she may not go after your man but she sure gives that image. steal you blind, money and love! she sucks up to the men while other women do the work. who in the world thought of her as a vp, needs to be fired, banned from any campaign. cindy should be worried about sarah and the old man!!!
eridani (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-03-08 06:01 AM
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51. Yep. Shake your tits in the boss's face
Get promoted over older and far more competent women.
CTyankee (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-03-08 02:46 PM
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72. Here's the thing. While we do get irate over her flashy flirting
we also understand that she is a pawn herself of powerful men. Does she know it? I think so, if only very deep down.
What is so unnerving about this whole thing is that it is played out so dishonestly. So I really don't know what or who makes me angrier, her or the men manipulating her...
alarimer (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-02-08 10:56 PM
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27. I think Sarah Palin is the Mean Girl.
And that's one of the many reasons I hate her so much.
wienerdoggie (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-02-08 07:37 PMShe has a point here. I mean compare her experience with Obama's and... Oh, wait...
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4. Speaking as a woman...putting up an ex-beauty queen for VP with nearly non-existent accomplishments,
beyond getting herself elected and motherhood, is a recipe for female backlash.
SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-02-08 07:48 PMBitter Ugly Chick Much?
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9. and because she "prostituted" herself, KNOWING she was unqualified
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 07:50 PM by SoCalDem
but because she's "cute & perky", she thought she could "move up" on the merits of what she got from her parents' dip in the gene pool..
WEe all know a sarah.. she's the "girlfriend" who would steal your boyfriend in a heartbeat, if she thought it would "teach you a lesson" for some slight you made toward her..she doesn;t actually WANT your boyfriend, but she does it because she can..to punish you..
she's the one who coyly uses her sexuality, and then feigns innocence..
she's the one who moves up the ladder because of what she looks like, instead of what she knows..and every time she speaks, we all know how true that is..
she's the mom who pops out kids and then dumps them on family member or each other, to raise them..
she sells out her own child's confidences, and exposes her to international scrutiny, to further her own "career"..
That's sarah
young_at_heart (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-02-08 11:57 PM
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40. A good mother would have her baby in bed---not out in front of the audience
She repels me on so many different levels, but her poor mothering abilities is right up there.
Raine (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-02-08 08:17 PM
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20. Yeah I hate her but I hate her because she's
the very WORST kind of woman. Palin is the kind who uses the ladder other women have built, she climbs up it then she kicks that ladder to the ground so other women can't use it.
Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.
They hate her coz she is pretty, smart, has a hunky hubby, wonderful loving family and can hold down a high powered job....She's what the feminist told us we could be back in the 70's....Yep. She can do it all, and put the moose on the plate for supper. They hate her because she is everything they can never hope to be, with their whiny little lives and drug-addled minds.
They hate her coz she is pretty, smart, has a hunky hubby, wonderful loving family and can hold down a high powered job....She's what the feminist told us we could be back in the 70's....And because she is FAR more qualified than either Plugs or The Magical Negro. They see her as a threat to the dictatorship of the proletariat.
They hate her coz she is pretty, smart, has a hunky hubby, wonderful loving family and can hold down a high powered job....She's what the feminist told us we could be back in the 70's....Yep. She can do it all, and put the moose on the plate for supper. They hate her because she is everything they can never hope to be, with their whiny little lives and drug-addled minds.
If Sarah Palin was a Liberal Democrat with the same resume and was pro (murder) choice instead of pro life...the MSM and the Democrat Party would be championing her as the future of politics in the U.S.
You're right. IMO, both sides do this though. Women are okay as long as they're on the side of the aisle one wants them to be on. If she's not on it, she's a bitch, a whore, etc.
You're right. IMO, both sides do this though. Women are okay as long as they're on the side of the aisle one wants them to be on. If she's not on it, she's a bitch, a whore, etc.
That is such crap and you know it. Nowhere will you find the kind of vitriol hatred and downright vicious misogyny directed at ANY female Democrat Party politician that has been directed at Sarah Palin.
Trying to use the "both sides do it" argument to justify what the politicians in YOUR political party do and say to females earns you a GIANT fail.
You're right. IMO, both sides do this though. Women are okay as long as they're on the side of the aisle one wants them to be on. If she's not on it, she's a bitch, a whore, etc.
That is such crap and you know it. Nowhere will you find the kind of vitriol hatred and downright vicious misogyny directed at ANY female Democrat Party politician that has been directed at Sarah Palin.
Trying to use the "both sides do it" argument to justify what the politicians in YOUR political party do and say to females earns you a GIANT fail.
Hillary has been accused of being a lesbian, and of causing her husband to sleep around by being a bad wife.
Hillary was accused by Barbara Bush of not having motherly instincts after showing her around the White House.
A joke got told about Chelsea Clinton supposedly telling her school to "call my dad, my mom is busy" on the radio (local radio).
Hillary is accused of only getting to the top because of a man she sleeps with, her husband.
I've heard Hillary be described as shrill, a bitch, a fake progressive.
The only real difference I'm seeing is that Palin had a lot thrown at her in such a small amount of time.
Link?
Link?
Link?
This is true and can be proven.
That wasn't conservatives or Republicans saying that. That came from your friends at DU.
No Bridget...the difference is that what's been said about Governor Palin has been said by the mainstream media and the Democrat party.
What you claim has been said about Hillary has mostly come from her own Party and the kooks on the Liberal websites like your favorite DU.
Also...I can back up what I say with facts.
Page 213: Klein alleges that Clinton recently had an affair with a divorced woman in her early 40s who lived in Chappaqua, N.Y. Klein says Clinton would spend the night at her house while the Secret Service sat parked in the driveway.
During an interview with The Advocate to be published next week, Sean Kennedy, the gay magazine's news and features editor, asked the presidential candidate, "How do you respond to the occasional rumor that you're a lesbian?"
This is true and can be proven.
That wasn't conservatives or Republicans saying that. That came from your friends at DU.
Link?
Link?
Link?
This is true and can be proven.
That wasn't conservatives or Republicans saying that. That came from your friends at DU.
No Bridget...the difference is that what's been said about Governor Palin has been said by the mainstream media and the Democrat party.
What you claim has been said about Hillary has mostly come from her own Party and the kooks on the Liberal websites like your favorite DU.
Also...I can back up what I say with facts.
Um seriously TRG? There is no way you can say you've never seen anyone call Hillary a lesbian. or any of the other things Lanie posted here. Everything except the joke on the radio has been posted on comservative type boards for a LONG time. I've seen them, and worse...tons of photshops, etc. I know you have an intrinsic need to jump on any post Lanie makes, but at least pick on that deserves it. She is right this time. Conservatives might not be as bad as the the libs in intensity, but the slams are still out there.
No Bridget...the difference is that what's been said about Governor Palin has been said by the mainstream media and the Democrat party.
Hey Flame. I think YOU and lanie are missing what his point was.
This is the major difference. All of the other things said about Hillary by conservatives has been by individuals, not the entire party or all of the MSM.
However, I still think TRG is picking on this just because it's Lanie.
I've been hearing that for a while, but I haven't seen it yet. The comments about "Call my dad, my mom is busy" was on local radio. No link.
The "no motherly instincts" comment. *I think* I got that out of a particular book. Okay, this is horrible. What's the name of that woman who wrote a book bashing Hillary who died in the September 11th attacks? I really think I read it in her book. It was a book meant to "expose" Hillary.
Chris Rock is the one who said Bill Clinton cheated on her because she was a bad wife. I remember the comedians of that time demonized every woman involved in that situation, but wouldn't demonize Bill Clinton. That was bullshit.
Somebody at my sister's church called Hillary and Chelsea a lesbian. It was pointed out that Chelsea is getting married and he was like "Well, sometimes they do that" (Uh, I thought homosexuality was a "choice"? lol).
But if you want links on the lesbian accusation.
http://www.slate.com/id/2121218/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2007/09/21/2007-09-21_hillary_clinton_im_not_a_lesbian.html
Then by all means, prove it. I seem to remember my aunt, my classmates, and others talking about how we already had her there as President before. That sort of indicates that she did the work and not Bill. Which insult is it? Can people at least stick to one or is that too much to ask out of people?
"Fake progressive" emerged at places like DU and among progressives IRL. "Shrill" and "bitch" was being said by conservatives before DU even existed. How do I know? I heard them say it. I read them calling her shrill on CU. And don't ask for a link. The system is crashed.
Hey Flame. I think YOU and lanie are missing what his point was.
This is the major difference. All of the other things said about Hillary by conservatives has been by individuals, not the entire party or all of the MSM.
Okay, I will give that much. That is starting to make me wonder if the mainstream media isn't liberal after all.There is absolutely no doubt. I've even posted studies proving it. ::)
At least three times last night, Sarah Palin, the adorable, preposterous vice-presidential candidate, winked at the audience. Had a male candidate with a similar reputation for attractive vapidity made such a brazen attempt to flirt his way into the good graces of the voting public, it would have universally noted, discussed and mocked. Palin, however, has single-handedly so lowered the standards both for female candidates and American political discourse that, with her newfound ability to speak in more-or-less full sentences, she is now deemed to have performed acceptably last night.
By any normal standard, including the ones applied to male presidential candidates of either party, she did not. Early on, she made the astonishing announcement that she had no intentions of actually answering the queries put to her. "I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I'm going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also," she said.
None of Palin's children, it should be noted, is heading off to college. Her son is on the way to Iraq, and her pregnant 17-year-old daughter is engaged to be married to a high-school dropout and self-described "****in' redneck". Palin is a woman who can't even tell the truth about the most quotidian and public details of her own life, never mind about matters of major public import. In her only vice-presidential debate, she was shallow, mendacious and phoney. What kind of maverick, after all, keeps harping on what a maverick she is? That her performance was considered anything but a farce doesn't show how high Palin has risen, but how low we all have sunk.