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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on October 01, 2008, 08:22:36 PM
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-24-08 09:45 AM
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Can You Identify Something Common To Both The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) And Lenin?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=277x462
It occurs to me that Lenin and the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) both displayed tremendous foresight by placing their pregnant mothers in parts of the world that have large petroleum deposits. It seems that Napoleon fell short in that respect.
I...uh...hmm...
I don't even know where to begin.
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Well...let me think a minute:
1. They were both caucasian.
2. They are both dead.
3. Both engaged in imperialist warfare. Muhammed was just more successful.
4. Both engaged in ethnic/religous persecution of minority populations.
5. Both tried to convert Israel to their religion.
6. Both had adherents in Afghanistan.
7. Both built up Armies composed mostly of criminals and rejects.
I can't think of anymore, but that's a start.
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Was Lenin a pedophile ?
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They both waded neck deep in the blood of innocents to obtain and maintain their power.
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They both were evil bastards now spending eternity in hell (muhammed covered by hams),
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Both of their religions need to be obliterated?
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And here I was thinking it was because both of them were shit eating weasels.
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And here I was thinking it was because both of them were shit eating weasels.
The mistake is understandable, and excusable. ;)
How 'bout adding this one: Both have adherants in the US who are trying to disguise their true intentions.
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And here I was thinking it was because both of them were shit eating weasels.
The mistake is understandable, and excusable. ;)
How 'bout adding this one: Both have adherants in the US who are trying to disguise their true intentions.
I`ll go a bit farther neigbor.
They are both holding hands to work together to achieve the same goal.
If that ever happened the next day they would try to slaughter each other.
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And here I was thinking it was because both of them were shit eating weasels.
The mistake is understandable, and excusable. ;)
How 'bout adding this one: Both have adherants in the US who are trying to disguise their true intentions.
I`ll go a bit farther neigbor.
They are both holding hands to work together to achieve the same goal.
If that ever happened the next day they would try to slaughter each other.
Exactly.! The leftist think they can control Islam, use it to bring down western culture and capitalism, enstall communism, then kill off the useful idiots (muslims). The DUmmies are playing with fire.
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And here I was thinking it was because both of them were shit eating weasels.
The mistake is understandable, and excusable. ;)
How 'bout adding this one: Both have adherants in the US who are trying to disguise their true intentions.
I`ll go a bit farther neigbor.
They are both holding hands to work together to achieve the same goal.
If that ever happened the next day they would try to slaughter each other.
Exactly.! The leftist think they can control Islam, use it to bring down western culture and capitalism, enstall communism, then kill off the useful idiots (muslims). The DUmmies are playing with fire.
It is the same as the DUmmies delusions that in a socialist/communist state they will be instantly installed as the wealthy elite.
The ruling party that would quickly emerge from the current government would recognize DUmmies as unstable,potential enemies of the state if they didn`t get what they want and would have them incarcerated or executed.
It shouldn`t be a surprise..it is what communism has always done.
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I don't even know what point he's trying to make! They had the foresight to place their pregnant mothers in an oil reach area? That sentence is so ambiguous as to make it non-sensical.
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Compare Hitler and the Profit (piss be upon him)(...and I know how to spell prophet)
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2097
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And here I was thinking it was because both of them were shit eating weasels.
The mistake is understandable, and excusable. ;)
How 'bout adding this one: Both have adherants in the US who are trying to disguise their true intentions.
I`ll go a bit farther neigbor.
They are both holding hands to work together to achieve the same goal.
If that ever happened the next day they would try to slaughter each other.
Exactly.! The leftist think they can control Islam, use it to bring down western culture and capitalism, enstall communism, then kill off the useful idiots (muslims). The DUmmies are playing with fire.
It is the same as the DUmmies delusions that in a socialist/communist state they will be instantly installed as the wealthy elite.
The ruling party that would quickly emerge from the current government would recognize DUmmies as unstable,potential enemies of the state if they didn`t get what they want and would have them incarcerated or executed.
It shouldn`t be a surprise..it is what communism has always done.
All you have to do is look at every country the communists have taken over. They use the local reds to round up the undesireables, then the liquidate the local reds.
Poland (1939) is the first one which springs to mind.
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Marx/Lenin and Mohammed have something in common, violence, terror, killing,
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Thus both Marx and Mohammed are advocates of apocalyptic totalitarianism. For both, “nothing is private,†as in Lenin’s famous dictum. The state, whether under the Communist “dictatorship of the proletariat†or Islamic Shari’a law, has the moral right and duty to control every aspect of an individual’s life.
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Similarities include the idea of peace (we rule, you submit), totalitarianism (all private matters are the state's concern), violence as a means to power (ends justify means), and class division (proletariat vs. bourgeois and believers vs. infidels). And this is just for starters. The rest is in Jack’s article which requires a subscription. It’s a thought provoking read.
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economic mismanagement. Islam is hot on wealth distribution, but feeble on wealth creation, presumably reflecting the fact that Islam is parasitic on the wealth creation of others.
This was true right from the start. Mohammed and his companions got their wealth by war and plunder. These days Muslims are dirt poor unless they get their wealth from an accident of geology, which would be useless to them without Western expertise, or from Western aid, or, if they live in the West, often, given high unemployment rates, from Western welfare.
Marxism was pretty useless a generating wealth too - wealth creation is inhibited when there are no incentives for individual effort.
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The Arab-Islamic culture still can't get the idea of wealth creation. Tom Palmer of the CATO Institute mentions on his blog that when he was in Iraq a few months back he tried to explain to the Iraqis about wealth creation, the need for property rights, and the government required for private production. They kept telling him that they had oil and thus they are rich. He heard that over and over again.
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http://victorhanson.com/articles/ibrahim090405.html
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The parallels are frightening – even more than Hanson implies. Consider the German defeat after WWI. During Hitler’s rise he made much of the fact that Germany surrendered with its military intact and without an invasion of the homeland. Hitler and others believed the military wasn’t defeated but betrayed by those above (and, of course, the Jews.) In other words, Germany was defeated by WWI but not defeated enough – this took WWII. The devastation of WWII was thorough. It was apocalyptic and caused a complete loss of faith in the Germanic nationalistic philosophy.
If we assume this parallel, the Arab story is as follows: with the defeat of the Arab military in the ’67 Israeli War, secular Arab socialism and nationalism were discredited (see Bernard Lewis.) Muslims looked to their history and found glory in the rise of Islam – which conquered most of the known world in its first century. The defeat of the Soviets in Afghanistan was further evidence that authentic Arab tradition – Islam – is the way to go.
But what of the current defeats in Afghanistan and Iraq at the hands of the American led coalition? Once again, Islam wasn’t defeated but stabbed in the back. The Northern Alliance in Afghanistan (with the quisling Musharaf) and the Shiites in Iraq have stabbed the jihadists in the back.
The jihadists aren’t done. They are defeated by not defeated enough. If the parallel to Germany is similar (and one can make a similar parallel to Japan), the implication is that only an apocalyptic defeat with bring a complete loss of faith. Does the parallel hold completely? I’d like to hear Hanson’s answer.
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Compare Hitler and the Profit (piss be upon him)(...and I know how to spell prophet)
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2097
Muhammed probably was into watersports, too. Make it "pork be upon him."
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similarities between Lenin an Mo:
1. they are both dead,allah be praised
2. their political/religious movements have caused death, repression and misery for hundreds of millions.
Communism is dead, but Islam is still a major impediment to freedom and progress, except for the one or two nations with a Muslim majority, whose governments are secular and western oriented. Turkey is the most obvious example (perhaps the only example) of a secular, western oriented state (democratic, NATO ally and ally of Israel) with a majority Muslim population.