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Title: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: TheSarge on September 30, 2008, 01:44:53 PM
As Somali pirates brazenly maintain their standoff with American warships off the coast of Africa, the cargo aboard one Iranian ship they commandeered is raising concerns that it may contain materials that can be used for chemical or biological weapons.

Some local officials suspect that instead of finding riches, the pirates encountered deadly chemical agents aboard the Iranian vessel.

On Aug. 21, the pirates, armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades, stole onto the decks of the merchant vessel Iran Deyanat.

They ransacked the ship and searched the containers. But in the days following the hijacking, a number of them fell ill and died, suffering skin burns and hair loss, according to reports.

The pirates were sickened because of their contact with the seized cargo, according to Hassan Osman, the Somali minister of Minerals and Oil, who met with the pirates to facilitate negotiations.

"That ship is unusual," Osman told the Long War Journal, an online news source that covers the War on Terror. "It is not carrying a normal shipment."

The pirates reportedly were in talks to sell the ship back to Iran, but the deal fell through when the pirates were poisoned by the cargo, according to Andrew Mwangura, director of the Kenya-based East African Seafarers' Assistance Program.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430681,00.html
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Wineslob on September 30, 2008, 02:06:50 PM
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The pirates reportedly were in talks to sell the ship back to Iran

How do you sell back that which you stole?  :mental: :thatsright:


Now they're in the shitter with the "illnesses"   :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Chris_ on September 30, 2008, 02:13:56 PM
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The pirates reportedly were in talks to sell the ship back to Iran

How do you sell back that which you stole?  :mental: :thatsright:


Now they're in the shitter with the "illnesses"   :evillaugh:

Today's Darwin Award winners.....

doc
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 30, 2008, 04:35:42 PM
Sink the ****er.  Takes care of both the weapons and the pirates with one torp.
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Jim on September 30, 2008, 04:55:16 PM
Sink the ****er.  Takes care of both the weapons and the pirates with one torp.




Seems like the obvious answer.  Or you could just starve them out if they don't die from whatever cooties are on that tub.
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 30, 2008, 05:01:34 PM
Sink the ****er.  Takes care of both the weapons and the pirates with one torp.




Seems like the obvious answer.  Or you could just starve them out if they don't die from whatever cooties are on that tub.

Well, honestly I'd like to see the pirates crawl to the rail, begging for help, and then send in a crew with rad meters, sniffers, and full hazmat gear to figure out what the Hell it is, and document the crap out of it while ordering everyone else to stand off due to the 'hazard to shipping.'  Problem is that if the Iranians or their appointed reps (Like the Russkiis) show up and demand to take over, our legal basis to do that pretty much goes away.  I'd rather we sort of covertly open up the bottom with a little SEAL-planted explosive than let the bastards get it back, if any Iranians happen to be on board at the time that would be a bonus.
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Chris_ on September 30, 2008, 05:04:29 PM
Sink the ****er.  Takes care of both the weapons and the pirates with one torp.




Seems like the obvious answer.  Or you could just starve them out if they don't die from whatever cooties are on that tub.

Well, honestly I'd like to see the pirates crawl to the rail, begging for help, and then send in a crew with rad meters, sniffers, and full hazmat gear to figure out what the Hell it is, and document the crap out of it while ordering everyone else to stand off due to the 'hazard to shipping.'  Problem is that if the Iranians or their appointed reps (Like the Russkiis) show up and demand to take over, our legal basis to do that pretty much goes away.  I'd rather we sort of covertly open up the bottom with a little SEAL-planted explosive than let the bastards get it back, if any Iranians happen to be on board at the time that would be a bonus.

Sounds like something we need to do while our legal basis is :"We were here first".
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 30, 2008, 05:05:27 PM
My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Chris_ on September 30, 2008, 05:45:40 PM
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On Aug. 21, the pirates, armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades, stole onto the decks of the merchant vessel Iran Deyanat.

They ransacked the ship and searched the containers. But in the days following the hijacking, a number of them fell ill and died, suffering skin burns and hair loss, according to reports.

The pirates were sickened because of their contact with the seized cargo, according to Hassan Osman, the Somali minister of Minerals and Oil, who met with the pirates to facilitate negotiations.

Gives me pause to wonder if maybe that Somali that was found dead of cyanide poisoning in Denver, with a couple pounds of cyanide in his hotel room with him a couple of weeks before the DNC Convention wasn't from the same crop as these - dearly departed - idiots.

If the FBI is saying "It's not terrorists, there's nothing to see here" I'm starting to think that it's most likely terrorists.
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Crazy Horse on September 30, 2008, 05:50:39 PM
I wonder if the former dictator of Iraq sent his shit to Iran
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Chris_ on September 30, 2008, 05:52:01 PM
I wonder if the former dictator of Iraq sent his shit to Iran

The general concensus is that he shipped 'em to Syria.  Which is almost the same thing.
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Crazy Horse on September 30, 2008, 06:56:38 PM
I wonder if the former dictator of Iraq sent his shit to Iran

The general concensus is that he shipped 'em to Syria.  Which is almost the same thing.

Yeah I know that................but still have questions about Iranian ships having WMD (so it's thought)
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Chris_ on October 01, 2008, 11:44:15 AM
I wonder if the former dictator of Iraq sent his shit to Iran

The general concensus is that he shipped 'em to Syria.  Which is almost the same thing.

Yeah I know that................but still have questions about Iranian ships having WMD (so it's thought)

If shipped from Iran, I would hazard a guess that it is likely reactor waste, or trash from their enrichment projects.......

doc
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Chris_ on October 01, 2008, 11:48:24 AM
I wonder if the former dictator of Iraq sent his shit to Iran

The general concensus is that he shipped 'em to Syria.  Which is almost the same thing.

Yeah I know that................but still have questions about Iranian ships having WMD (so it's thought)

If shipped from Iran, I would hazard a guess that it is likely reactor waste, or trash from their enrichment projects.......

doc

"Dirty Bomb" materials?
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Chris_ on October 01, 2008, 12:13:49 PM
I wonder if the former dictator of Iraq sent his shit to Iran

The general concensus is that he shipped 'em to Syria.  Which is almost the same thing.

Yeah I know that................but still have questions about Iranian ships having WMD (so it's thought)

If shipped from Iran, I would hazard a guess that it is likely reactor waste, or trash from their enrichment projects.......

doc

"Dirty Bomb" materials?

Quite possibly.....based on the reports so far, what ever it is, it emits high enough levels of radiation to kill within a few hours.......low-level waste won't do that, at least it won't unless you either eat it or sleep in it.....but these are Somalis.....they ain't exactly the pennacle of intellectual evolution......

doc

Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Chris_ on October 01, 2008, 12:29:08 PM
I wonder if the former dictator of Iraq sent his shit to Iran

The general concensus is that he shipped 'em to Syria.  Which is almost the same thing.

Yeah I know that................but still have questions about Iranian ships having WMD (so it's thought)

If shipped from Iran, I would hazard a guess that it is likely reactor waste, or trash from their enrichment projects.......

doc

"Dirty Bomb" materials?

Quite possibly.....based on the reports so far, what ever it is, it emits high enough levels of radiation to kill within a few hours.......low-level waste won't do that, at least it won't unless you either eat it or sleep in it.....but these are Somalis.....they ain't exactly the pennacle of intellectual evolution......

doc



Yeah, but one would hope they'd be smart enough to treat it a little gingerly, once the first 2 or 3 peckers started falling off.
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: Chris_ on October 01, 2008, 12:36:08 PM

Yeah, but one would hope they'd be smart enough to treat it a little gingerly, once the first 2 or 3 peckers started falling off.

Unfortunately by the time the first one fell off.....it is way too late for the others......

doc
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on October 01, 2008, 01:26:39 PM
True, doc, rad poisoning is quite insidious.  Unless you go in expecting it and set up a hot line and dosimetry, by the time anyone figures out what it is, it's pretty much too late.  The ship may be big enough that only those breaking into the cargo got heavily exposed, but with pirates it seems a lot more likely that monkey curiousity and self-interest would have gotten all of them checking out anything that was broken open. 
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: miskie on October 01, 2008, 01:37:07 PM
All I can think of while reading this is one film quote.
"You are, without doubt, the worst pirate I've ever heard of." - James Norrington - Pirates of the Caribbean

Regardless how this turns out, it looks like this is going to be quite the embarrassment for the owner of the cargo.
Title: Re: Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns
Post by: RightCoast on October 04, 2008, 10:19:47 AM
You know its bad when its not even safe to be a pirate anymore.