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Title: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: CharlesD on September 29, 2008, 11:39:34 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429503,00.html

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Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home

Monday, September 29, 2008

INDIANAPOLIS — A convicted sex offender died Sunday during a struggle with a father who found the naked man in or near his 17-year-old daughter's bedroom, police said.

Police responding to a call from the city's northwest side about 3:20 a.m. found 64-year-old Robert McNally on the hallway floor with his arm around the neck of 52-year-old David T. Meyers, who was pronounced dead at the scene.

Police spokesman Sgt. Matthew Mount said Meyers had a heart condition and may have had a heart attack. An autopsy was planned.

Police said Meyers was naked except for a mask and latex gloves and had entered the home through a window near the girl's bedroom with rope, condoms and a knife. He was familiar with the home's layout because it belonged to a relative, police said.

The girl awoke and screamed when she saw the man in her room, police said. The father responded and struggled with the intruder while the girl's mother phoned 911.

Police did not anticipate any charges against McNally.

"If a person breaks into your home, you are justified in using deadly force in defending your family," said Mount. "In this situation, I don't think he was trying to kill him, he was trying to hold him down."

Meyers had served 10 years in prison for criminal confinement and sexual deviate conduct and was wanted in Boone County for failure to register as a sex offender. He was registered as a sex offender in Marion County.

Police said Meyers lived with his mother and had recently lost his job.

The death is under investigation and will be reviewed by a Marion County prosecutor.

"Nobody wins," McNally told The Indianapolis Star. "It's a lose-lose situation for everybody. He has family also."

He said his daughter went to church Sunday after the incident.
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: Chris_ on September 29, 2008, 11:43:12 AM
One more DUmmie to be discovered missing on the next DUmpDiver sweep.
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: mamacags on September 29, 2008, 12:19:56 PM
Good.  He saved not only his daughter but I am sure several other girls/women from the same fate.
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: bijou on September 29, 2008, 12:22:07 PM
Although he served 10 years in prison in fact he was released half way through a 20 year sentence.  Someone must have thought he was no longer dangerous.  :(
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: Chris_ on September 29, 2008, 12:44:14 PM
Although he served 10 years in prison in fact he was released half way through a 20 year sentence.  Someone must have thought he was no longer dangerous.  :(
Well, he ain't dangerous anymore.   :-)
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: CharlesD on September 29, 2008, 01:22:58 PM
Good.  He saved not only his daughter but I am sure several other girls/women from the same fate.

And he saved the taxpayers the cost of a trial.  Worked out pretty well on all counts.
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 29, 2008, 01:33:16 PM
Although he served 10 years in prison in fact he was released half way through a 20 year sentence.  Someone must have thought he was no longer dangerous.  :(

The original court-imposed sentence is not the last word on how long the perp will be in prison in America, there is a thing called "Good time" (Short for 'time off for good behavior') which significantly reduces the actual time served for long-term prisoners, generally by around a third for sentences over 10 years, but it varies from state to state and I don't recall Indiana's actual ratio off-hand.
"Good behavior" means basically keeping your nose clean and doing what you are told without getting written up for any significant incidents.  Then there is the whole parole and probation process, which also varies from state to state, and various ways he might have been awarded some kind of sentence credit in the appeal or post-conviction relief processes.  The whole thing is a damned sight more complicated than it really needs to be, it's pretty much the product of Roosevelt-era reforms that become overgrown and encrusted with ways for prisoners and their lawyers to game the system.
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: bijou on September 29, 2008, 02:00:04 PM
Although he served 10 years in prison in fact he was released half way through a 20 year sentence.  Someone must have thought he was no longer dangerous.  :(

The original court-imposed sentence is not the last word on how long the perp will be in prison in America, there is a thing called "Good time" (Short for 'time off for good behavior') which significantly reduces the actual time served for long-term prisoners, generally by around a third for sentences over 10 years, but it varies from state to state and I don't recall Indiana's actual ratio off-hand.
"Good behavior" means basically keeping your nose clean and doing what you are told without getting written up for any significant incidents.  Then there is the whole parole and probation process, which also varies from state to state, and various ways he might have been awarded some kind of sentence credit in the appeal or post-conviction relief processes.  The whole thing is a damned sight more complicated than it really needs to be, it's pretty much the product of Roosevelt-era reforms that become overgrown and encrusted with ways for prisoners and their lawyers to game the system.
While for some offences I can see that time off for good behaviour can assist in giving a prisoner something to aim for and a reason to try and reform, for others the sheer dangerousness of the offender should be the main consideration.  It is bad that here in the UK, with very few exceptions, a prisoner will serve only a proportion of the sentence.
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 29, 2008, 03:38:52 PM
Although he served 10 years in prison in fact he was released half way through a 20 year sentence.  Someone must have thought he was no longer dangerous.  :(

The original court-imposed sentence is not the last word on how long the perp will be in prison in America, there is a thing called "Good time" (Short for 'time off for good behavior') which significantly reduces the actual time served for long-term prisoners, generally by around a third for sentences over 10 years, but it varies from state to state and I don't recall Indiana's actual ratio off-hand.
"Good behavior" means basically keeping your nose clean and doing what you are told without getting written up for any significant incidents.  Then there is the whole parole and probation process, which also varies from state to state, and various ways he might have been awarded some kind of sentence credit in the appeal or post-conviction relief processes.  The whole thing is a damned sight more complicated than it really needs to be, it's pretty much the product of Roosevelt-era reforms that become overgrown and encrusted with ways for prisoners and their lawyers to game the system.
While for some offences I can see that time off for good behaviour can assist in giving a prisoner something to aim for and a reason to try and reform, for others the sheer dangerousness of the offender should be the main consideration.  It is bad that here in the UK, with very few exceptions, a prisoner will serve only a proportion of the sentence.

It's actually a very powerful tool for keeping prisoners that aren't total psycho gangstas in check, basically the prison admin can just "Review and adjust" the prisoner's good time in a cursory administrative procedure, instead of having to go through all the bullshit to convict them on a new crime of disorderly conduct, assault, etc. with all the security problems and witness arrangements involved with numerous additional court appearances.  Good time has its uses for the benefit of the prison admin, not just for the prisoners.  There are a variety of ways of dealing with the irredeemable, but a 'life without parole' sentence is probably the most effective (well, other than offing them, but it has become so difficult to get that in most jurisdictions that it's reserved for quite heinous cases).   
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: TheSarge on September 29, 2008, 07:05:37 PM
INDIANAPOLIS —  A convicted sex offender died Sunday during a struggle with a father who found the naked man in or near his 17-year-old daughter's bedroom, police said.

Police responding to a call from the city's northwest side about 3:20 a.m. found 64-year-old Robert McNally on the hallway floor with his arm around the neck of 52-year-old David T. Meyers, who was pronounced dead at the scene.

Police spokesman Sgt. Matthew Mount said Meyers had a heart condition and may have had a heart attack. An autopsy was planned.

Police said Meyers was naked except for a mask and latex gloves and had entered the home through a window near the girl's bedroom with rope, condoms and a knife. He was familiar with the home's layout because it belonged to a relative, police said.

The girl awoke and screamed when she saw the man in her room, police said. The father responded and struggled with the intruder while the girl's mother phoned 911.

Police did not anticipate any charges against McNally.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429503,00.html
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 29, 2008, 07:08:23 PM
One less vermin on this planet.  :bow: :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: RightCoast on September 29, 2008, 07:46:51 PM
Score one for the good guys.  *Goes upstairs and checks the window locks*
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: TheSarge on September 29, 2008, 07:49:51 PM
Score one for the good guys.  *Goes upstairs and checks the window locks*

Yup.  If I were in the same situation the cops would have found me the same way...choking out the perp until they told me to let go.
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: RightCoast on September 29, 2008, 07:51:54 PM
"Honey don't call 911 yet he's still breathing."
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: RightCoast on September 29, 2008, 09:24:24 PM
:lmao: This is the third time this story has been posted now

Great stories have a way of getting around.
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: Lanie on September 29, 2008, 09:57:20 PM
Good.  He saved not only his daughter but I am sure several other girls/women from the same fate.

werd.
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: LC EFA on September 30, 2008, 02:23:55 AM
He killed some repeat offending vermin with his bare hands. Awesome.

The man deserves a medal.
Title: Re: Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home
Post by: DixieBelle on September 30, 2008, 06:18:30 AM
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