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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: asdf2231 on September 22, 2008, 12:00:13 PM
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-22-08 12:06 PM
Original message
What are the details of Bush moving troops to the US practice putting down civil unrest?
On Stephanie Miller, Jim mentioned that some troops were going to start in Oct to practice for massive civil unrest. Anyone have details? I searched but haven't yet found anything. This is a little scary.
eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-22-08 12:11 PM
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1. Here you go. very scary indeed.
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 12:14 PM by eowyn_of_rohan
From the U.S. ARMY TIMES
Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
...The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys. Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.
Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist
It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.
But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.
After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.
...The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out. In the meantime, they’ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.
They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.
...The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,†1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.
“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.â€
The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.
(etc)<snip>“I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,†Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.â€
link
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090...
L0oniX (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-22-08 12:35 PM
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3. Yea go ahead and support the troops ...even when they prepare to attack us.
Nothing like having our own turn on us. They are nothing but brain washed idiot tools for government policy. Defend this country ...my ass! Now you know they are potentially our enemies. This will be much worse than the national guard killing college students at Kent State. How can these American service people go along with this?
"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." -- Henry Kissinger
...and now it's not just for foreign policy.
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-22-08 12:35 PM
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3. Yea go ahead and support the troops ...even when they prepare to attack us.
Nothing like having our own turn on us. They are nothing but brain washed idiot tools for government policy. Defend this country ...my ass! Now you know they are potentially our enemies. This will be much worse than the national guard killing college students at Kent State. How can these American service people go along with this?
"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." -- Henry Kissinger
...and now it's not just for foreign policy.
Why do lefty loons like you NEED to believe this crap?
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An infantry BCT with support slices runs to about 5,000 troops, only about half are actual boots and track on the ground to go toe-to-toe with orgnaized, armed opposition even then. Having one designated for immediate availability to Northern Command is an excellent idea for dealing with consequences of a Katrina or 9-11 attack, and ridiculously inadequate to operate in more than a single major metropolitan area at a time. Of course it's not like the DUmmies have the remotest idea of how military operations work, what kind of unit capabilities exist, or that they understand anything about that whole "Oath" thing.
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And now The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team would like to salute the DUmp for their unwavering support.
AHHHHH----TENNNNN------HUT
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NO NOES!!!! NOT THE INFANTRY!!!!! LAWDS HEP US!!!1111!11!
I have this image in my mind, from the Movie "Dr. Zhevago", where the Cossack Cavalry ride down the communists in the streets, sabering 'innocent' women and children in sub-zero Moskava.
(http://lean.bfi.org.uk/images/left/dr_zhivago.jpg)
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And of course it's not like every Army Division has at least one battalion on alert status for any emergencies. I mean really people the shit you lurkers dream up would embarrass mother goose sometimes
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Troops have historically been used from time to time to enforce order. I recall seeing regular army troops maintaining order when Little Rock High School was first integrated, and also army units were called out in Washington during the riots that followed the assassination of Martin Luther King. Service men and women are also often called on to help with other civil emergencies.
Now why is this a bad thing?
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You stupid ****ing ****wad ****er ****ing a ****ing cess pool piece of ****ing ****wad trash IDJIT :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:
Yet in another thread they are talking of overthrowing the goverment
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You stupid ****ing ****wad ****er ****ing a ****ing cess pool piece of ****ing ****wad trash IDJIT :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:
Yet in another thread they are talking of overthrowing the goverment
And one that needs to be sent to the USSS.