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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: asdf2231 on September 20, 2008, 09:49:07 AM
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 09:28 PM
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My week in Florida....a very enlightening trip indeed.
I really should get out more, I suppose - we live in North Carolina, but it is North Raleigh...and we spend lots of time in Durham and Chapel Hill, which, though not as blue as the New England we grew up in, is blue enough to tolerate. So this week my wife and I decided to drive to Florida to visit my brother and see my mom - and to take in a Red Sox/Tampa game while we were there.
So we start down route 95....past all of the South of the Border signs, into South Carolina - it started getting harder to find an NPR station that had any sort of objective talk (like Diane Rehm) as the left of the dial stations converted to fire and brimstone madness sermons. Into Georgia - by the way, the SC and GA welcome centers have Fox news of course (actually come to think of it, NC and FL as well). Then on into Florida - the billboards start showing a bizarre mix of ads for vasectomies (while you wait!), plastic surgery, XXX Girls! Girls! Girls! - intermixed with quotes from the bibles and ads for churches. Then a humongous confederate flag flying over Route 75 near Tampa. More and more right wing and religious babbling on the FM radio (we didn't go near AM of course). Hardly any Obama bumper stickers on cars (though I did get two very excited beeps and thumbs ups when a few cars noted my Impeachment, Bush = Fear, and Obama stickers).
Before the Sox game we went to a bar - Fergies - and ran into a fellow who writes guide books for Florida travel - we had a great chat, and ended up talking politics - we found we were fellow Obama supporters, but he whispered it, and said that it would be dangerous to make it widely known.
Anyway, I'm not going anywhere in particular with this except to say it really opened our eyes to be in really, really red areas - the bizarre mix of sex and God and shallowness. It make me wonder for our country - and whether we will ever be able to bridge the huge divide between the sane and thinking and the scaredy cat-fundamentalist, hypocrite republicans/conservatives.
So, all in all (despite watching the Sox get trashed), it is a great reason to get out and about and see what one is up against - this week it is off to do volunteer work for the Obama campaign and take part in grabbing our country back.
To Floridians who are here - did I get a stilted view, or is it indeed quite an odd mix of things there???
glowing (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 09:39 PM
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2. It would help if we could get some free merchandise on major corners of US 19.
A lot of people are broke or cheap in FL... people give away free t's at a club.. Need free merchandise.... AND I'm surprised the guy was whispering, this is O-town.. yeah there's a few assholes out there, but many are in support of Obama
PaulHo (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 09:42 PM
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3. Don't think I've ever heard it summed up that well:
>>>>the bizarre mix of sex and God and shallowness.>>>>
I had a similar epiphany when I went to Disneyworld a few years ago. ( And I took a plane; but it seemed that half the white south was in greater Oralando that week.) Until then I'd never been south of Raliegh/Durham.
>>>and whether we will ever be able to bridge the huge divide between the sane and thinking and the scaredy cat-fundamentalist, hypocrite republicans/conservatives.>>>>>
Probably not... but do you really WANT to 'bridge the gap'? I'm ambivalent; would be nice if they grew up a little but real change seems a long way off. So from where I sit... and it's hardly nirvana in NY.... that would truly be a "bridge to nowhere."
FLyellowdog (163 posts) Fri Sep-19-08 09:55 PM
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5. No, You are "spot on".
I am from the mountains of NC and also actually lived in Chapel Hill for awhile (where our first child was born). We've been in FL more than 30 years, and it is almost ALL red down here. My husband and I joke (and weep) that we're probably two of only a handful of registered Democrats in our county. BUT, since the campaigning has taken off, we're seeing more and more liberal thinking people stand up for their beliefs.We get sooooooo tired of seeing cars with "W" stickers...and very pleased that we're not seeing quite as many for McCain. Yes, bible-thumping, gun-carrying, abstinence-only,prayer-in-schools, "I've got mine", bigoted-race mongering, "Keep your women pregnant in the summer and barefoot in the winter", gay-bashing Floridiots are all around us down here and we've just had to try to build a bridge and get over it. When we do find another intelligent thinker, we get overcome with elation. Maybe once Obama becomes POTUS, some of the right-wingers will learn what real men stand for and their ignorance will be diminished.One can only hope.
renie408 (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:17 AM
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18. No, you did exactly what all northerners do when they drive through the South
you looked for evidence to support your biased view and you found it. We are all just a bunch of knuckle dragging morons down here, dontcha know? Yep, sex, religion and inbreds. That's all you find in the South. I think you should all just go back north and west and save yourselves. We will just have to struggle on without you.
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DUmmie user name: NRaleighLiberal
You live in a city that makes it's "living" off sucking tax money out of the very type of people you then turn and complain are "scaredy cat-fundamentalist, hypocrite republicans/conservatives." Biting the hand that feeds you isn't exactly "sane and thinking" except in your tiny, mindnumbingly stupid world.
Another lib saying on line things they wouldn't dare say to your face.
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:17 AM
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18. No, you did exactly what all northerners do when they drive through the South
you looked for evidence to support your biased view and you found it. We are all just a bunch of knuckle dragging morons down here, dontcha know? Yep, sex, religion and inbreds. That's all you find in the South. I think you should all just go back north and west and save yourselves. We will just have to struggle on without you.
A mole, a troll or maybe a southern conservative democrat posting on the DUmp?
I might be able to get along with renie408.
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glowing (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 09:39 PM
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2. It would help if we could get some free merchandise on major corners of US 19.
A lot of people are broke or cheap in FL... people give away free t's at a club.. Need free merchandise.... AND I'm surprised the guy was whispering, this is O-town.. yeah there's a few assholes out there, but many are in support of Obama
Even after watching it for several years, it still surprises me that these people are so hopelessly stupid they will believe a bouncy tale.
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You want northeast urban or suburban people,fine you can have them.
They have been infiltrating upstate for the last 20 years as "progessive" policies have made it too expensive for locals to stay here.
I am on my way out too it is just a matter of when but it will happen in a couple of months to a year.
It isn`t fair to paint everyone with the same brush but my contact with NYC libs and New England ones has found them to be rude,arrogant,pushy and just generally unpleasant people.
I will take the politeness I have found in South Carolina,Texas and Missouri any day.
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Cary NC........................Containment Area of Retired Yankees.
When did I-95 become route 95??
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You want northeast urban or suburban people,fine you can have them.
They have been infiltrating upstate for the last 20 years as "progessive" policies have made it too expensive for locals to stay here.
I am on my way out too it is just a matter of when but it will happen in a couple of months to a year.
It isn`t fair to paint everyone with the same brush but my contact with NYC libs and New England ones has found them to be rude,arrogant,pushy and just generally unpleasant people.
I will take the politeness I have found in South Carolina,Texas and Missouri any day.
Come on down to SC Carl. You sound like the type we don't mind moving in.
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Wait a minute. I thought Florida was so liberal that Bu$hitler had to resort to every dirty trick in the book to steal millions of votes in 2000. How did it become Jeebusland? Why would Bush need to steal a state they claim is so conservative?
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Wait a minute. I thought Florida was so liberal that Bu$hitler had to resort to every dirty trick in the book to steal millions of votes in 2000. How did it become Jeebusland? Why would Bush need to steal a state they claim is so conservative?
You do understand that by DUmp standards, Karl Marx was a rightwing fundamentalist don't you?
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DUmmie user name: NRaleighLiberal
You live in a city that makes it's "living" off sucking tax money out of the very type of people you then turn and complain are "scaredy cat-fundamentalist, hypocrite republicans/conservatives." Biting the hand that feeds you isn't exactly "sane and thinking" except in your tiny, mindnumbingly stupid world.
Another lib saying on line things they wouldn't dare say to your face.
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Seems he has to point out his elitism through his user name. Anyone who says they live in "North Raleigh" are using the same culture division as in saying "I live live inside the beltline", only some notches lower.