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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: asdf2231 on September 18, 2008, 09:04:42 AM
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Syrinx (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-18-08 05:02 AM
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Did a Hollywood actor spill state secrets on the Tonight Show?
Advertisements [?]Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 05:19 AM by Syrinx
I've been watching Leno this week, because Letterman is in reruns. Tuesday night he had the actor Shia Labeouf on the show. I wasn't really paying much attention at first, because I tune in for the jokes, not so much the celebrity interviews. But Labeouf starting talking about something that really caught my attention.
He was talking about an FBI consultant on his new movie, "Eagle Eye." According to the actor, the FBI guy told him that one out of every five phone calls is recorded and logged. Labeouf said he didn't believe the guy. He thought he was pulling his leg. Then, though, the story went, the FBI guy played for the actor a recording of one of Lebeouf's phone calls from two years prior. He went on to mention that the government can also eavesdrop into American homes through ADT security device microphones, as well as track and disable automobiles equipped with OnStar equipment.
Either this was some crazy story that was concocted in order to promote the movie, or maybe Mr. "Thank God For The Beef" dropped a big bombshell and nobody noticed. I was expecting to see some mention of this on the cable stations today, if only as a brief aside on "Oddball," but no mention of it that I'm aware.
skyounkin (345 posts) Thu Sep-18-08 05:30 AM
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1. To my understanding
if the FEDs know where you were and can guesstimate within like a 20 foot circle, and the time you were there- they can get your recording. They did something like this on The Wire.
But now do they have the right to do this- no, but that never stopped the bush JD.
MadHound (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-18-08 07:36 AM
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7. Oh that is but the tip of the iceberg
And the FBI guy wasn't talking out of school. The OnStar example actually has come up in a court case before. It is well known that virtually all phone traffic, be it text or voice or computer goes through approximately eighteen acres of computers outside of Langley where Carnivore stores them and analyzes them for key words like "bomb" "jihad" etc.(there, now this post will be flagged).
ADT hasn't been mentioned that I know of, but I don't find it surprising. I've always thought that ADT was more of a means of keeping track of the people who own the house rather than an instrument to keep intruders out. Now with their interior sensors (advertised as another bigger, better security feature) they can not only know that you're home, what you're saying, but also what room you're in and to a certain extent, what you're doing. Cell phones are another way of tracking your every move. Being marketed as a way to control traffic flow, private companies are now setting up large areas, mostly in big cities, to track your cell phone signal wherever you, and it, go.
We are becoming the most surveilled society on the face of the planet, and the sad thing is, we're actually buying the instruments of our surveillance, cell phones, security systems, Onstar, etc. Of course some of it is pushed by instruments of change like insurance companies(breaks on your insurance premium if you get a security system), but for the most part we've bought into it because it is the latest, greatest, flashiest piece of technology. Stick with the basics, go with low tech solutions. Do you really need that GPS? Get a map instead. Rather that installing that security system, get the best security going, a big dog. Whatever you do, don't help all those watchers watch you. Don't pay for your own chains.
Hey DUmmies?
Nobody really gives a crap about you.
Seriously.
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Isn't Shia LeButt the guy who just got busted for driving drunk or something?
I wish it would finally permeate the DUmmies' thick skulls that THEY ARE NOT ON THE GOVERNMENT'S AGENDA.
DUMMIES: YOU ARE WHO THEY TUNE INTO WHEN THEY WANT A BREAK FROM SERIOUS WORK. THE THINGS YOU SAY MIGHT BE RECORDED, BUT PROBABLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF EMAIL FORWARDS WITHIN THE FBI MAIL SERVER. AS IN, "LISTEN TO THIS HOMO LEAVING YET ANOTHER VOICEMAIL FOR NANCY PELOSI."
Idiots.
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But thankfully they are ignorant about the built in cameras in their TVs and computer monitors. The keyloggers built into computers is an invaluable asset also. :fuelfire:
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This would make some semblance of sense if we were all forced to subscribe to OnStar and ADT. Until that time, I will assume the idea is worthless. After all, without 100% participation, what good is it?
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Hey DUmmies...which President was it that financed Carnivore and had it implemented?
Hint: Last name starts with "CLINTO".
But that's when it was used for PATRIOTIC purposes, like snooping on Republicans after the Clintons got busted for having FBI files in the White House.
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Syrinx (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-18-08 05:02 AM
Original message
Did a Hollywood actor spill state secrets on the Tonight Show?
Advertisements [?]Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 05:19 AM by Syrinx
I've been watching Leno this week, because Letterman is in reruns. Tuesday night he had the actor Shia Labeouf on the show. I wasn't really paying much attention at first, because I tune in for the jokes, not so much the celebrity interviews. But Labeouf starting talking about something that really caught my attention.
He was talking about an FBI consultant on his new movie, "Eagle Eye." According to the actor, the FBI guy told him that one out of every five phone calls is recorded and logged. Labeouf said he didn't believe the guy. He thought he was pulling his leg. Then, though, the story went, the FBI guy played for the actor a recording of one of Lebeouf's phone calls from two years prior. He went on to mention that the government can also eavesdrop into American homes through ADT security device microphones, as well as track and disable automobiles equipped with OnStar equipment.
Either this was some crazy story that was concocted in order to promote the movie, or maybe Mr. "Thank God For The Beef" dropped a big bombshell and nobody noticed. I was expecting to see some mention of this on the cable stations today, if only as a brief aside on "Oddball," but no mention of it that I'm aware.
skyounkin (345 posts) Thu Sep-18-08 05:30 AM
Response to Original message
1. To my understanding
if the FEDs know where you were and can guesstimate within like a 20 foot circle, and the time you were there- they can get your recording. They did something like this on The Wire.
But now do they have the right to do this- no, but that never stopped the bush JD.
MadHound (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-18-08 07:36 AM
Response to Original message
7. Oh that is but the tip of the iceberg
And the FBI guy wasn't talking out of school. The OnStar example actually has come up in a court case before. It is well known that virtually all phone traffic, be it text or voice or computer goes through approximately eighteen acres of computers outside of Langley where Carnivore stores them and analyzes them for key words like "bomb" "jihad" etc.(there, now this post will be flagged).
ADT hasn't been mentioned that I know of, but I don't find it surprising. I've always thought that ADT was more of a means of keeping track of the people who own the house rather than an instrument to keep intruders out. Now with their interior sensors (advertised as another bigger, better security feature) they can not only know that you're home, what you're saying, but also what room you're in and to a certain extent, what you're doing. Cell phones are another way of tracking your every move. Being marketed as a way to control traffic flow, private companies are now setting up large areas, mostly in big cities, to track your cell phone signal wherever you, and it, go.
We are becoming the most surveilled society on the face of the planet, and the sad thing is, we're actually buying the instruments of our surveillance, cell phones, security systems, Onstar, etc. Of course some of it is pushed by instruments of change like insurance companies(breaks on your insurance premium if you get a security system), but for the most part we've bought into it because it is the latest, greatest, flashiest piece of technology. Stick with the basics, go with low tech solutions. Do you really need that GPS? Get a map instead. Rather that installing that security system, get the best security going, a big dog. Whatever you do, don't help all those watchers watch you. Don't pay for your own chains.
Hey DUmmies?
Nobody really gives a crap about you.
Seriously.
"The most surveilled society on earth"? What about England and its CCTV on every street?
Oh, and DUmmies, since your every move is being monitored, unless you're even more stupid than you look (is that possible?), you'd might better stop making threats to do violence to conservatives, their property, Republican leaders, their families (remember Alec Baldwin wanting to stone Henry Hyde and family? ),ripping signs out of little girl's hands because you hate their politics (a little girl!) and all the other moonbatty things you say, like how you're going to riot and there will be blood in the streets if you lose this election (not that we take you seriously, we have all the guns...)
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My nephew has a neighbor whose brother-in-law works for Frito-Lay. They have just completed a program to install an incredibly small microchip within the bar code on every bag of all their products. It is too small to record images or sound. It only transmits an alarm and its GPS location whenever it detects the odor of cannabis smoke.
This Shia nut may not be a DUmmy, but he qualifies.
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The Hollywood Illiteratti strikes again!!
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I have one word for the DUmmies, "Gullible."
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How do you think they will react when it comes out that "Skinner" actually works for the NSA?
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Shhhh !! Now, you've done it, you let the cat out of the bag. Are you going to tell them that their "donations to Obama" were being redirected to McCain, too? Oops.