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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on March 09, 2026, 07:08:35 AM
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wnylib (25,697 posts)
I am not a military strategist, but
if you plan to attack a country, don't you consider the risks and plan in advance how to reduce them?
Example, in an attack on Iran, it was predictable that the Strait of Hormuz would get blocked, leaving ships bottlenecked with repercussions around the world on oil supplies and other goods. The result of that is inflation and shortages.
So is there a way that the Strait of Hormuz could have been protected in advance of the bombing? If not, what about detouring ships to a safer route before bombing? That would be an inconvenience and extra cost for the ships and their cargo companies but it's costing them to sit still, too, and is creating shortages.
Wouldn't it have been prudent to protect our bases in Middle East countries against Iranian counter attacks prior to bombing Iran?
As I said, I am not a strategist. I have never been in the military although my father, 2 brothers, nephew, and cousin were. So maybe I'm misguided about advance planning and protections.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221083768
You're just an idiot
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You mean like making plans such as Venezuela producing to make up for the difference?
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wnylib whiny one's understanding of geography and civilian operations is just the beginning if his/her ignorance.
* The Persian Gulf has one entrance/exit. Ships in harbor in the Gulf would be as much targets for Iran as ships trying to transit the strait.
* Is wnylib so bleepingly stupid as to believe the US military should have given tankers and other commercial ships several days or weeks advance notice of the campaign against Iran? Well, I guess that is very possible.
* Is wnylib so bleepingly stupid as to believe the US military has command over the commercial ships of multiple nations? Well, I guess that also is very possible.
* Is wnylib ignorant of the fact that the US military sent people to Ukraine a couple of weeks ahead to consult about their anti-drone tactics. Very likely, since DU-grade Progs avoid news sources that will tell them things they don't want to know or be known. That this was done also demonstrates that Trump's dealings with Ukraine have been very different than Progs want to be true.
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The result of that is inflation
now you people worry about inflation......
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now you people worry about inflation......
The Trumpflation of 2025 didn't happen outside of their :stoner:-fantasies, so now DUmmies need a new cause to drive their fantasy Trumpflation of 2026.
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I am not a military strategist, but
This is rather obvious.
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What strikes me about this war is that the administration isn't playing games with or coddling bullshit media organizations. I reckon that part of this is so that the military can prosecute a winnable war, which means they have to do things that win wars without the second-guessing of CNN and MSNBC faggots. The Admin seems content to let the Marxist European/Middle East media say whatever they want, and it's being lapped up by American morons.
That's why there isn't a lot of clarity around Hormuz, but the Pentagon has been gaming this out for decades, even during Shitty Joe's admin. My guess is that it's an area of risk to be managed, and to the extent that Iran has no Navy, it can't do shit about Hormuz. Also with the assets that are in the area, we can swat away anything they put in the area. My other guess is that Iran COULD make the Strait difficult or impossible to navigate by way of putting junk in it, but that doesn't seem plausible.
There is another possibility, given Trump: HE may be the one squelching traffic in the Strait to let China twist just a little. If that's the case, which I don't put past Trump at all, what's Iran going to do? "Oh hey, guys, we are too weak and pussified to control the one asset we have left. Sorry!" They will posture all they want, and that's the one thing you can do when you're ducking missiles and bunker busters. Evidence to support that hypothesis is that Trump doesn't particularly care about short-term swings in oil or gas prices.
What I find fascinating about the ****ing mouthbreathers at DU is as pragmatic and intellectual as they think they are, they commit the grave sin of badly underestimating their enemies. This makes them easy to exploit and confuse, which is what we are seeing now.
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What strikes me about this war is that the administration isn't playing games with or coddling bullshit media organizations. I reckon that part of this is so that the military can prosecute a winnable war, which means they have to do things that win wars without the second-guessing of CNN and MSNBC faggots. The Admin seems content to let the Marxist European/Middle East media say whatever they want, and it's being lapped up by American morons.
That's why there isn't a lot of clarity around Hormuz, but the Pentagon has been gaming this out for decades, even during Shitty Joe's admin. My guess is that it's an area of risk to be managed, and to the extent that Iran has no Navy, it can't do shit about Hormuz. Also with the assets that are in the area, we can swat away anything they put in the area. My other guess is that Iran COULD make the Strait difficult or impossible to navigate by way of putting junk in it, but that doesn't seem plausible.
There is another possibility, given Trump: HE may be the one squelching traffic in the Strait to let China twist just a little. If that's the case, which I don't put past Trump at all, what's Iran going to do? "Oh hey, guys, we are too weak and pussified to control the one asset we have left. Sorry!" They will posture all they want, and that's the one thing you can do when you're ducking missiles and bunker busters. Evidence to support that hypothesis is that Trump doesn't particularly care about short-term swings in oil or gas prices.
What I find fascinating about the ****ing mouthbreathers at DU is as pragmatic and intellectual as they think they are, they commit the grave sin of badly underestimating their enemies. This makes them easy to exploit and confuse, which is what we are seeing now.
High five
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wnylib should have ended his/her post at, I am not a military strategist, since the rest of the post makes this fact grossly obvious. :rimshot:
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High five
If you put yourself in the shoes of the men who've been through war college, one resounding conclusion since Vietnam and possibly Korea is that one stripe of homo or another has prevented the US from doing what it must to win a war. I do not know what they teach there, but it has to be one of the constraints they deal with. There may even be courses like, "Creating Strategy in the Midst of Overwhelming Oppositional Faggotpower" or "Methods of Traversing Unstable Terrain With Heavy Armor and Faggots Chirping Around You."
So it must be refreshing to be told to do what it takes to win, and do so in such a decisive manner that Moscow and Beijing know what they'd be up against. Also good to get some experience with coordinating complex battle plans in the modern theater, which has advanced materially since even Iraq. It certainly appears that our adversaries are much better at waging digital propaganda campaigns than actual war. "Oh, you done ****ed up now, we're going to start shooting the GOOD missiles" works well on floors of sorority chicks at Oberlin, and not as well against a sortie of F-22s.
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If you put yourself in the shoes of the men who've been through war college, one resounding conclusion since Vietnam and possibly Korea is that one stripe of homo or another has prevented the US from doing what it must to win a war. I do not know what they teach there, but it has to be one of the constraints they deal with. There may even be courses like, "Creating Strategy in the Midst of Overwhelming Oppositional Faggotpower" or "Methods of Traversing Unstable Terrain With Heavy Armor and Faggots Chirping Around You."
So it must be refreshing to be told to do what it takes to win, and do so in such a decisive manner that Moscow and Beijing know what they'd be up against. Also good to get some experience with coordinating complex battle plans in the modern theater, which has advanced materially since even Iraq. It certainly appears that our adversaries are much better at waging digital propaganda campaigns than actual war. "Oh, you done ****ed up now, we're going to start shooting the GOOD missiles" works well on floors of sorority chicks at Oberlin, and not as well against a sortie of F-22s.
Amen
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wnylib...pronounced whinylib.
:-)
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This is rather obvious.
DU posters are not political strategists either, or any kind of strategists.
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Keeping the Straight of Hormuz open is why every ship in the Iranian navy are being turned into artificial reefs and why every missile battery with the range to strike ships transiting that waterway are being turned into expensive scrap metal.
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Keeping the Straight of Hormuz open is why every ship in the Iranian navy are being turned into artificial reefs and why every missile battery with the range to strike ships transiting that waterway are being turned into expensive scrap metal.
Well, that's not what ~69xXXLordTokeMoreXXx69~ says on X!
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:rofl:
What I find fascinating about the ****ing mouthbreathers at DU is as pragmatic and intellectual as they think they are, they commit the grave sin of badly underestimating their enemies. This makes them easy to exploit and confuse, which is what we are seeing now.
It’s really easy to understand why they underestimate everyone. When you actually believe you’re the smartest people in the room, it’s easy to pull the wool over their eyes.
Their believed intellectual superiority absolutely cripples them.
KC
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:rofl:
It’s really easy to understand why they underestimate everyone. When you actually believe you’re the smartest people in the room, it’s easy to pull the wool over their eyes.
Their believed intellectual superiority absolutely cripples them.
KC
Absolutely. When they want to know why anyone thinks differently from the left, they ask... each other. That's how insular they are.
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wnylib should have talked to those supposed members at DU that served in the military before posting that pile of poo. Then again, most of them are probably fakes as it is.