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Breaking, per the BBC: Trump says Israel and Hamas 'both sign off' on first phase of Gaza peace plan (Hamas confirms)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220707245 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220707245)
Celerity (52,393 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:16 PM
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Breaking, per the BBC: Trump says Israel and Hamas 'both sign off' on first phase of Gaza peace plan (Hamas confirms)
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2nzlj2j4kt
enid602 (9,557 posts)
2. Eat
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:22 PM
I hope the Israelis will let the Palestinians eat, at least for a while.
That's been up to Hamas. Maybe Hamas and its friends will stop stealing the food when it's brought in?
Disaffected (5,931 posts)
8. All bets are off,
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:36 PM
once the hostages are returned. Either side will then have ample opportunity to renege on the agreement based either on real or imaginary issues.
I'm giving it a couple of weeks or so b/f it hits the fan again.
Sadly, this is likely, plus or minus all the hostages being returned.
DoBW (2,810 posts)
9. It's a trick ... trying to back door the peace prize at last minute
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:51 PM
In real life, Trump knows there is pretty much zero chance the Nobel committee would consider him, and he doesn't care.
AloeVera (3,808 posts)
16. "Agreed upon line" for withdrawal
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 10:19 PM
Noooooooooo...
Netanyahu has already said he opposes withdrawal of troops. There will be no "agreed upon line".
Once the hostages are released, "peace" is over.
Teh JOOOOooooooooos! Would be more honest.
Sparkly (24,763 posts)
18. I'll believe it when Bibi puts his weapons down.
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 11:31 PM
No more bombs.
moonscape (5,585 posts)
20. This. He didn't stop bombing Southern Lebanon after
Reply to Sparkly (Reply #18)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 11:41 PM
agreeing to the ceasefire with Hezbollah that Biden brokered, still hasn’t, so why would he now?
Xolodno (7,195 posts)
22. Bibi is just going to use this pause...
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:28 AM
...to regroup, assess and re target. He'll just make up some lie how Hamas violated the terms and start shooting again. Once the war ends he's toast and he knows it. And they still have to negotiate who will govern Gaza later and he sure as hell doesn't want a one station solution, even when a significant portion of the UN left the chamber when it was his turn to speak. He doesn't care what the world thinks of him.
Nor does he care about the country or its people. Only of himself like most dictators.
The Joooooooooo-Hatred is strong in this one.
Wanderlust988 (680 posts)
24. Biden could've gotten the same deal last year but he wouldn't rein in Bibi
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 02:41 AM
Biden should've told Bibi enough is enough! No more weapons to Israel. This would've forced the end of the war.
In real life, I think Israel would have told LIEden to pound sand, and offered to send him some from Gaza. I think whoever was acting for LIEden knew that.
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In real life, Trump knows there is pretty much zero chance the Nobel committee would consider him, and he doesn't care.
He's kind of a slacker on the peace front. He's only ended eight wars in nine months.
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DUmmies hate Jared Kushner because Trump. This X post gives reality, https://x.com/ratlpolicy/status/1976425168462545183 .
Mike Coté
@ratlpolicy
I was a huge skeptic of Kushner in 2017. I didn't think he belonged anywhere near government, especially foreign affairs. I was very wrong.
He's already the most accomplished & effective American diplomat of the 21st century by a long shot.
The Persian Jewess
@persianjewess
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Oct 9
Jared Kushner brokered both the Abraham Accords and the Gaza Peace Deal.
Absolute legend.
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Xolodno (7,195 posts)
22. Bibi is just going to use this pause...
...to regroup, assess and re target. He'll just make up some lie how Hamas violated the terms and start shooting again.
It's good that you admit who you align with in the middle east. Everyone should take note.
I heard something to this effect this morning said this morning. "Look in the mirror and seriously ask yourself if you'd rather see the conflict continue if it would prevent Trump receiving credit. If so you have severe TDS. Get help."
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It's good that you admit who you align with in the middle east. Everyone should take note.
I heard something to this effect this morning said this morning. "Look in the mirror and seriously ask yourself if you'd rather see the conflict continue if it would prevent Trump receiving credit. If so you have severe TDS. Get help."
Here's much of what POs DU-Folk:
* Trump accomplished this, not LIEden;
* The terms, if followed, benefit Israel, significantly;
* If followed, Hamas would give up: the hostages, their weapons, their tunnels; Hamas is effectively surrendering;
* Hamas' source of weapons, Iran, got clobbered by Israel and the US, which added to the new sheriff in DC in command of US forces near the Red Sea means Iran might not be in a position to supply arms to Hamas.
The key, of course, is, "If followed". Trump and Israel know Hamas cannot be trusted, so they'll be watching carefully and probably have consequences at the ready.
And, yeah, if the peace deal POs Progs and they rejoice that Trump did not receive the NPP, they are possessed by their TDS.
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DUmmies hate Jared Kushner because Trump. This X post gives reality, https://x.com/ratlpolicy/status/1976425168462545183 .
Leftists and DUmmies hate Kushner for several key reasons:
1) He's related to President Trump by marriage
2) He's a Joooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
3) His companies have partnered with Saudi corporations, whom the pearl clutchers on the left find objectionable.
4) Remember, he's a JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
5) Kushner does not have a formal government job, which is absolutely necessary for any foreign policy wonk (as deemed by the Beltway media and proper liberal society)
6) He's married to a spawn of Orange Satan
7) Jared is incredibly effective
and finally...
8) Jared Kushner is a filthy JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!111Eleventy!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!
:ohnoes:
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Found on reddit...
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Found on reddit...
:hi5: Israel has fulfilled its stage 1 withdrawal (unknowingly giving the lie to DU's Israel-Haters). Hamas has said it could return the hostages on Monday, so that'll be the first chance to see how seriously Hamas negotiated. I suspected that if Hamas breaks the agreement, it will be at later stages, when they are supposed to hand over their weapons and destroy the tunnels they built using years of construction material aid that was supposed to be used rebuilding Gaza's home and business buildings.
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Further wrt Israeli actions:
IDF says ceasefire with Hamas is in effect
https://justthenews.com/world/middle-east/idf-says-ceasefire-hamas-effect (https://justthenews.com/world/middle-east/idf-says-ceasefire-hamas-effect)
The Israel Defense Forces said Friday that the ceasefire with Hamas is in effect, as of noon local time.
The announcement follows Palestinians reporting heavy shelling on Friday morning in northern Gaza, The Associated Press reported.
Israel’s Cabinet earlier Friday approved President Donald Trump’s plan for a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip and the release of all the remaining hostages held by Hamas, in a critical step toward ending the two-year war.
There are still many unanswered questions regarding the broader ceasefire plan, such as whether and how Palenstinian-backed Hamas will disarm and who will govern Gaza.
The IDF said that it has withdrawn troops to the agreed deployment lines for the first stage of the ceasefire.
The IDF bombed DU-antisemites' talking-points, unsurprisingly. Whether Israel got or gets "rewarded" with rockets from Hamas or Hamas allies, I've not heard.
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Poor Democrats. Must be hard for them to watch Trump succeed at the sorts of things their side talks about doing.
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Poor Democrats. Must be hard for them to watch Trump succeed at the sorts of things their side talks about doing.
All the libs and leftists ever want to do is "have a dialogue/discussion" or "engage in serious diplomacy", which is a ****ing excuse to stay at a $1000/night hotel with warm and cold running hookers. And naturally solve absolutely nothing.
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Look at what 'Literally Hitler' just did
https://tomknighton.substack.com/p/look-at-what-literally-hitler-just (https://tomknighton.substack.com/p/look-at-what-literally-hitler-just)
Every GOP candidate since Bush I has been, so far as I could tell, been “literally Hitler” to the left, and I’m not saying it didn’t start a long time before then. I just didn’t see it, in part because the world wasn’t as connected as it was, and the 24-hour news cycle wasn’t such a big part of life.
No one has gotten that treatment worse than President Donald Trump, though. While the passing comment has flown in the past, this has reached a fever pitch with Trump to the point that two people tried to assassinate him, someone assassinated Charlie Kirk, and a lot of other violence has taken place in between, and some after.
Of course, Hitler wanted war. He liked seeing death and destruction.
Trump, similarly, likes war so much that he just stopped one in Israel. Instead of facilitating the so-called genocide, he managed to stop the fighting.
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Wow. Look at what literally Hitler just managed, while their peace-loving POTATUS couldn’t pull it off, brokering such a pathetic peace agreement that it was never likely to last.