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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: SVPete on July 25, 2025, 12:37:37 PM
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Hoaxes about ICE ‘disappearing’ illegals are widespread, as disinformation seeps into the news
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/hoax-accusing-ice-disappearing-illegals-may-not-be-isolated (https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/hoax-accusing-ice-disappearing-illegals-may-not-be-isolated)
After another instance of misinformation or flat-out falsehoods regarding an illegal alien surfaced from The Morning Call, a disturbing pattern has emerged that misleads Americans and causes undue fear for immigrants, both legal and illegal, across the country.
The article last week reported falsely that Luis Leon, an 82-year-old Chilean national living in Allentown, Pennsylvania, "disappeared" after visiting a Philadelphia immigration office in June to replace his lost green card, where he was allegedly handcuffed and taken away without explanation, officials said.
His family claimed that they were unable to locate him through immigration officials or Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) detainee database, and was falsely informed of his death, only to later learn he was in fact detained in Minnesota and then transferred to a hospital in Guatemala.
Discrepancies emerged when the Guatemalan Institute of Migration denied receiving anyone matching Leon’s details, and a Chilean reporter, José María del Pino, claimed the real Luis Leon died in Chile in 2019, with the circulating photo belonging to another person altogether.
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In another hoax, Yuriana Julia “Juli” Pelaez Calderon, a 41-year-old illegal immigrant, was charged with conspiracy and making false statements for orchestrating a fake kidnapping by supposed ICE agents to scam donations and discredit federal law enforcement.
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In another disturbing incident of disinformation, in a TikTok post with over 800,000 views, a woman says, "They're throwing the deportees out of the planes and into the ocean. [...] they're shackling people, flying out into open ocean and throwing them out. The flight patterns, there is people tracking them on this app, the flights going out with the deportees. Watching them go out to the open ocean and circle back. A family in Italy saw five shackled bodies wash up on the shore."
When your "cause" needs lies to persuade people of your POV ...
... you obviously are a Prog. :loser: :loser: :loser:
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There Are So, So Many Issues With This Latest Anti-ICE Narrative
https://pjmedia.com/athena-thorne/2025/07/25/there-are-so-so-many-issues-with-this-latest-lefty-narrative-n4942090 (https://pjmedia.com/athena-thorne/2025/07/25/there-are-so-so-many-issues-with-this-latest-lefty-narrative-n4942090)
The Narrative
Pity the plight of the poor González brothers. The hapless lads were both here legally — one married to a U.S. citizen, the other visiting him from Mexico so that they might mourn their mother’s passing together. They were minding their own business when the evil MAGA Gestapo waylaid them and hauled them off to "Alligator Auschwitz." They’ve been held there with almost no contact with the outside world for two weeks, their civil rights trampled. Why, they could be dead, for all anyone knows!
Multiple examples of Hate-Trumper splenetic whinging
First of all
If you actually believe that these two men were carted off to the fabled pre-deportation lockup in the 'Glades for nothing more than a traffic stop and casual racism, then I don't know what to tell you. You're a special kind of gullible.
(Or a Trump-Hating Prog)
The initial arrest
In fact, it is illegal to tint one's car windows to the point of near-opacity. It not only obscures the driver's view, but it also prevents law enforcement from being able to see inside the vehicle in case of a traffic stop — both dangerous conditions.
Once pulled over, the vehicle was discovered to be uninsured. The news stories claim it was a rented car, and the innocent lads had no idea it was uninsured. Sure. I'll be interested to hear the whole story about that car.
Nonetheless, this fairly common situation would normally trigger a ticket for the driver and perhaps the uninsured vehicle being towed. Obviously, something more happened. The giveaway is the line in the El País article: "Carlos was driving through the tourist city of Orlando, Florida, when he was stopped by police, who also arrested his brother when he went to help him."
Went to help him? Help him do what? My money's on helping him fight the police — a felony in most states, btw.
And finally, what kind of rental company stocks vehicles with illegally tinted windows and doesn’t bother to insure them? This story is fishier than a StarKist factory.
Unsurprisingly, Progs are lying by omission ... of pertinent facts destructive to their narrative. BTW, is it necessary to explain why the initial traffic stop could not possibly have been due to the occupants' skin color?
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Copying this from a previous thread:
Lady 'Kidnapped by ICE!' Was the Left's Border Star. Now She's Starring in a DOJ Indictment
https://pjmedia.com/victoria-taft/2025/07/17/doj-says-woman-claiming-she-was-kidnapped-by-ice-has-some-splainin-to-do-n4941855 (https://pjmedia.com/victoria-taft/2025/07/17/doj-says-woman-claiming-she-was-kidnapped-by-ice-has-some-splainin-to-do-n4941855)
She became the avatar of everything wrong with President Donald Trump's ICE raids in California. It was her claims that Democrats, such as Mayor Karen Bass and Congressional representatives like AOC, Pramila Jayapal, Eric Swalwell, and the rest, relied on when they accused Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents of "kidnapping" illegal aliens off the street and sending them to "concentration" or "internment camps."
After all, there was a news conference. Protesters. She had a lawyer. Her daughter wept over her. She absolutely was "kidnapped ... at a Jack in the Box restaurant parking lot in downtown Los Angeles and brought to San Ysidro, where 'she was presented to [a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement] staffer' and 'presented with voluntary self-deportation paperwork.'" And then, after she refused to sign the document, "'she was punished' and ...sent to a warehouse in an undisclosed location."
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The feds also say Yuriana Julia Pelaez Calderon will have company. The 41-year-old woman, who's old enough to know better, staged everything, according to the indictment. "This hoax ‘kidnapping’ was a well-orchestrated conspiracy. The defendant and all those involved will face the full consequences of their conduct under federal law," according to the press release by Central California U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli.
The indictment reads like one of those telenovelas. Calderon claimed she was being followed, texted a friend, and went to a Jack in the Box, then to a Starbucks in L.A. where an LAPD squad car was parked
Based on video surveillance obtained by HSI on July 4 from Jack in the Box, but recorded on Wednesday, June 25, 2025, at approximately 8:20 p.m., CALDERON was at the Jack in the Box parking lot at the place and around the time where she was purportedly kidnapped.
After leaving the Jack in the Box parking lot, CALDERON then walked into the Starbucks parking lot located north of the Jackin the Box and across the street from a Shell Gas station.Surveillance footage showed a marked LAPD patrol car waiting at Starbucks at the same time CALDERON passed by. The video surveillance shows that at no point did CALDERON exhibit signs she was distressed; nor did she attempt to contact the marked LAPD patrol car to report she was being followed.
After the feds got the report of the kidnapping they began to track her two cellphones to determine where she was. They knew she wasn't in their custody but worried she'd been arrested by bad actors. A cop staking out one of the locations when she stated she'd been held hostage by ICE noted she was with an alleged co-conspirator in Bakersfield.
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Her daughter, also known as "co-conspirator 1," however, knew her mom was fine. She told the cops that the reason she hadn't gotten back to the feds and cops who were trying to track down her "kidnapped" mom was because "'they' told me not to talk to law enforcement, and 'they' would reach out [SSA Browning believes that Co-Conspirator 1 was referring to employees at Movement Legal]."